Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Early V8 (1932-53)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-03-2014, 10:26 PM   #1
Tom in SW VA
Senior Member
 
Tom in SW VA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Richlands, VA
Posts: 533
Default Reinstalling the distributor

I sent my distributor off to be rebuilt and now I am ready to reinstall it.

I have a couple of questions:

1. I was told that I should not turn the engine over until the distributor is reinstalled. In other words, the cam should remain in the same position it was when it was removed. Is that correct?

2. When installing the distributor, how do you match the distributor insert with the cam slot? How can I turn the distributor insert if the cam slot is not to be moved? Can I rotate the rotor in the distributor?

I am thanking you in advance for your help.

Tom
Tom in SW VA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2014, 10:28 PM   #2
Tom in SW VA
Senior Member
 
Tom in SW VA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Richlands, VA
Posts: 533
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

Note: It is a four bolt, helmet-type distributor.
Tom in SW VA is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 01-03-2014, 10:45 PM   #3
Joe AZ
Senior Member
 
Joe AZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Prescott, WI
Posts: 336
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

What I do is to loosely bolt the distributor on, so the distributor tang just makes contact with the front of the cam. Then, with mild pressure on the front of the distributor, rotate the rotor until the tang engages in the cam. This ensures proper indexing.
Joe
Joe AZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2014, 10:48 PM   #4
Brendan
Senior Member
 
Brendan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca
Posts: 2,903
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

turn the rotor, be shure that you got the notch into the grove of the cam before you tighten it up. also make shure that the distributor sits flush on the timing cover
__________________
If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya!

i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!
Brendan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 12:14 AM   #5
ford3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: oroville calif.
Posts: 1,453
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

if im badly mistaken the slot in the front of the cam is off set like the tang on the dist, it is also off set, so you cant install it out of time
ford3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 02:15 AM   #6
JM 35 Sedan
Senior Member
 
JM 35 Sedan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland
Posts: 10,858
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Another suggestion I have read here, but have not tried yet, is to temporarily use two studs in place of distributor bolts to guide distributor in place while you turn rotor enough to align tang into camshaft slot. Then put one bolt in place to hold distributor while you remove each stud and replace with other two mounting bolts. I think this would work really well. If you are not worried about originality, the three mounting bolts could be replaced with studs and nuts. This would probably make distributor removal/installation a snap.
__________________
John

"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein

Last edited by JM 35 Sedan; 01-04-2014 at 09:42 PM.
JM 35 Sedan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 07:29 AM   #7
Terry,OH
Senior Member
 
Terry,OH's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 4,751
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

You can turn the engine over without the distributor, but there is no need to, when installing the distributor. JM suggestion of using studs is a good idea. They don't have to be too long, 3-4" . Look at the slot on the front of the cam and see if you can determine where the off set slot is at and rotate the tang of the distributor to match as close as possible. Put the gasket on the studs and then slide the distributor on the studs. Then do what Joe AZ suggest. The distributor should fall into the slot without force, remove one stud at a time and install bolts.
Terry,OH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 07:36 AM   #8
4dFord/SC
Senior Member
 
4dFord/SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 1,579
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

Good advice from all of the above. I would only add be patient and RELAX--it's really not hard to do
4dFord/SC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 08:03 AM   #9
Frank Miller
Senior Member
 
Frank Miller's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Auburn, MA
Posts: 2,106
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

Not turning the engine over applies to a top mount distributor you have removed and will replace and have marked the rotor position so that it is timed approximately close to where it will start. Many experienced mechanics are not familiar with the front distributor installation. In a few years many mechanics will not be familiar with any distributor installation.
__________________
“The technique of infamy is to start two lies at once and get people arguing heatedly over which is true.” ~ Ezra Pound
Frank Miller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 08:47 AM   #10
ken ct
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: stratford,ct
Posts: 5,971
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Miller View Post
Not turning the engine over applies to a top mount distributor you have removed and will replace and have marked the rotor position so that it is timed approximately close to where it will start. Many experienced mechanics are not familiar with the front distributor installation. In a few years many mechanics will not be familiar with any distributor installation.
LOL,LOL Frank read his second post. He has a 4 bolt Helmet job. They can be installed 180 off by a Dum,Dum,result BROKEN HOUSING. ken ct. Happy NY.
ken ct is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 08:51 AM   #11
ken ct
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: stratford,ct
Posts: 5,971
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Miller View Post
Not turning the engine over applies to a top mount distributor you have removed and will replace and have marked the rotor position so that it is timed approximately close to where it will start. Many experienced mechanics are not familiar with the front distributor installation. In a few years many mechanics will not be familiar with any distributor installation.
Not many younger people 20-40 yrs. old know what a Carburetor is. All they know is fuel injection. LOL ken ct.
ken ct is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 09:16 AM   #12
jimTN
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Powell, TN
Posts: 2,509
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

Ken has it right, you can get it on wrong and break it. It would not go easily but when forced, pow. Do as explained above and I find it easier to twist the dist back and forth a little to seat it up. It should fit absolutely snug without bolts when it is correctly aligned.
jimTN is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 09:20 AM   #13
sunshine
Senior Member
 
sunshine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: SUNSHINE MD.
Posts: 318
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

Take a couple of bolts the same thread as your dist. bolts cut the heads off to about 2 inches round off cut ends.. Insert them in dist.bolt holes . slide the dist. on these studs ,if the dist. tang is not aligned with cam it will not go up flush , now turn the dist. rotor until the dist, goes up flush.install the bolts in the empty holes remove the alignment bolts , install the remaining bolts. SUNSHINE
sunshine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 07:56 PM   #14
Tom in SW VA
Senior Member
 
Tom in SW VA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Richlands, VA
Posts: 533
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

Thanks, everyone. Does anyone know the exact size of the distributor to block bolts? I need to buy another one anyway. (Fine or course thread?)
Tom in SW VA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 08:05 PM   #15
Andy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Kerrville, Tx
Posts: 2,769
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

Threaded holes in cast iron will always be course thread. That fact come in handy sometimes. I think they are 5/16".
Andy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 10:27 PM   #16
ford38v8
Senior Member
 
ford38v8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 6,644
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

The temporary studs need to be long enough to access easily with the distributor in place. JM suggests that studs could be used permanently here, but there is a very good reason why the bolts are better:

Consider changing out a distributor by the side of the road in cold wet weather at night. Nuff said?
__________________
Alan
ford38v8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2014, 10:30 PM   #17
uncle max
Senior Member
 
uncle max's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SLC Utah
Posts: 798
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

These are special shouldered bolts to maintain exact timing!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom in SW VA View Post
Thanks, everyone. Does anyone know the exact size of the distributor to block bolts? I need to buy another one anyway. (Fine or course thread?)
__________________
RIP Tyler... My Son, Helper & Best Friend.
Feb '78 to Father's Day '10.
www.97-express.com ~ [email protected]
uncle max is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2014, 01:27 AM   #18
JM 35 Sedan
Senior Member
 
JM 35 Sedan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland
Posts: 10,858
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom in SW VA View Post
Thanks, everyone. Does anyone know the exact size of the distributor to block bolts? I need to buy another one anyway. (Fine or course thread?)
Uncle Max is correct, the bolts that hold the distributor to the timing gear cover are special shouldered bolts, Ford part number 48-12148, 5/16"-18 threads x 0.90" long. The aligning shoulder diameter is 0.316" - 0.320".
If studs were used, as I mentioned in an earlier post, they should be 5/16"-18 threads at each end with a non threaded aligning center section having a diameter of 0.316" - 0.320". Total length would need to be determined.
__________________
John

"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein
JM 35 Sedan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2014, 02:03 PM   #19
Tom in SW VA
Senior Member
 
Tom in SW VA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Richlands, VA
Posts: 533
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle max View Post
These are special shouldered bolts to maintain exact timing!
Uncle Max: Where do I get these shouldered bolts? What is a good source?

Tom
Tom in SW VA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2014, 02:40 PM   #20
V8COOPMAN
Senior Member
 
V8COOPMAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: East Shore of LAKE HOUSTON
Posts: 11,111
Default Re: Reinstalling the distributor

Try Roy Nacewicz @:

http://www.fordscript.com/ford_bolts/products.html
__________________
Click Links Below __


'35-'36 W/8BA & MECHANICAL FAN


T5 W/TORQUE TUBE
V8COOPMAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:29 AM.