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95476 · 12-01-2018, 07:17 PM

I am rewiring my project and want to run a 12 volt intermitent duty solenoind WITH the button on the bottom.
I have used the Cole Hersee 24060 solenoid in the past but want the button for this job.
Does anyone know if they are still available ?
The local NAPA and Auto Zone guys looked at me like I was from Mars when I told them what I needed. (What is the year make model, etc.)
They could not even come up with an Echlin or Standard illustrated parts catalog to look it up.
Damn,I feel old.
I have a whole box full of 6 volts solenoids with the button.
Does anyone know the part number of a 12 volt solenoid that has the button ?
Thank you.

51 MERC-CT · 12-01-2018, 08:01 PM

There are many 6 volt solenoids with the button on the bottom being used on 12 volts with success.

34PKUP · 12-01-2018, 08:11 PM

Yep! have used 6 volt ones for years on 12 volts (It does'nt care about the voltage )

JSeery · 12-01-2018, 08:17 PM

There may be a 12v verision, I'll have to check their catalog.

koates · 12-01-2018, 08:46 PM

Many British cars of the 1930s to 1950s used a 12 volt Lucas solenoid with a push button which was rubber covered on the button. Still available today from suppliers of MG parts in England and USA. Google around to find one. 12 volt systems should use a 12 volt solenoid. Using a 6 volt solenoid on 12 volts will double the solenoid winding current draw. Yes I know some will use a 6 volt solenoid on 12 volts for years but I say do it correctly for best operation. Ive been in auto electrics for 55 years and know what is correct. Regards, Kevin.

JSeery · 12-01-2018, 09:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by koates

12 volt systems should use a 12 volt solenoid. Using a 6 volt solenoid on 12 volts will double the solenoid winding current draw. Yes I know some will use a 6 volt solenoid on 12 volts for years but I say do it correctly for best operation. Ive been in auto electrics for 55 years and know what is correct. Regards, Kevin.

Well said!

drolston · 12-01-2018, 09:34 PM

If you have gone to 12 volts, originality of the solenoid should not be an issue. I use a remote starter button with leads that clip to the starter button terminal on the solenoid and any handy ground. That way I can crank the engine from any location. Particularly handy when running compression test.

RalphM · 12-02-2018, 01:16 PM

I would also be interested if someone comes up with a part # and source.
I have also used a 6V push button on 12Volts for years, BUT I have had it stick when using the button on the solenoid( not the one on dash). Therefore I don’t use it much!

alanwoodieman · 12-02-2018, 01:19 PM

LUCAS- the devils own electrical system, and Yes I do speak from experience

koates · 12-02-2018, 06:20 PM

alan, then let us know your experience with Lucas electrics. I have worked with Lucas electrics for years and know and understand the system. Seems that its some kind of a bad joke that Americans just cant cope with Lucas electrics. As an Australian our auto electrical training took in all types of systems because we had all types of cars , trucks and other makes of equipment over here. Unlike the USA we had a large amount of English cars over here. It would be nice if you could stop bagging Lucas equipment. Regards, Kevin.

alanwoodieman · 12-03-2018, 10:47 AM

try driving down the road in your TR3 at night and the lights go off, then the car quits and you are stranded for the third or fourth time!! then tell me how great the devils own electrical system is!! and yes I will "bagg" them forever

4t8v8 · 12-03-2018, 10:53 AM

Had a few BSA's and Triumphs in my early days. Know all about Lucas. No thanks!

51 MERC-CT · 12-03-2018, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwoodieman

try driving down the road in your TR3 at night and the lights go off, then the car quits and you are stranded for the third or fourth time!! then tell me how great the devils own electrical system is!! and yes I will "bagg" them forever

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4t8v8

Had a few BSA's and Triumphs in my early days. Know all about Lucas. No thanks!

Seems I remember back in the mid 60's that Lucas provided switch covers that better reflected the way some switches performed.

alanwoodieman · 12-03-2018, 05:58 PM

you got it 51Merc! Love the switch cover

34PKUP · 12-05-2018, 03:36 AM

The fondest memory I have of Lucas is the day I got rid of the last Lucas equipped vehicle that I owned.

12-01-2018, 07:17 PM	#1
95476 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 413	12 volt intermittent duty solenoid with button I am rewiring my project and want to run a 12 volt intermitent duty solenoind WITH the button on the bottom. I have used the Cole Hersee 24060 solenoid in the past but want the button for this job. Does anyone know if they are still available ? The local NAPA and Auto Zone guys looked at me like I was from Mars when I told them what I needed. (What is the year make model, etc.) They could not even come up with an Echlin or Standard illustrated parts catalog to look it up. Damn,I feel old. I have a whole box full of 6 volts solenoids with the button. Does anyone know the part number of a 12 volt solenoid that has the button ? Thank you.

12-01-2018, 08:01 PM	#2
51 MERC-CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Hartford, Ct Posts: 5,898	Re: 12 volt intermittent duty solenoid with button There are many 6 volt solenoids with the button on the bottom being used on 12 volts with success. __________________ DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES

12-01-2018, 08:11 PM	#3
34PKUP Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 794	Re: 12 volt intermittent duty solenoid with button Yep! have used 6 volt ones for years on 12 volts (It does'nt care about the voltage )

12-01-2018, 08:17 PM	#4
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: 12 volt intermittent duty solenoid with button There may be a 12v verision, I'll have to check their catalog. Last edited by JSeery; 12-01-2018 at 09:28 PM.

12-01-2018, 08:46 PM	#5
koates Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Melbourne Australia. Posts: 2,079	Re: 12 volt intermittent duty solenoid with button Many British cars of the 1930s to 1950s used a 12 volt Lucas solenoid with a push button which was rubber covered on the button. Still available today from suppliers of MG parts in England and USA. Google around to find one. 12 volt systems should use a 12 volt solenoid. Using a 6 volt solenoid on 12 volts will double the solenoid winding current draw. Yes I know some will use a 6 volt solenoid on 12 volts for years but I say do it correctly for best operation. Ive been in auto electrics for 55 years and know what is correct. Regards, Kevin.

12-01-2018, 09:34 PM	#7
drolston Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,627	Re: 12 volt intermittent duty solenoid with button If you have gone to 12 volts, originality of the solenoid should not be an issue. I use a remote starter button with leads that clip to the starter button terminal on the solenoid and any handy ground. That way I can crank the engine from any location. Particularly handy when running compression test.

12-02-2018, 01:16 PM	#8
RalphM Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 2,651	Re: 12 volt intermittent duty solenoid with button I would also be interested if someone comes up with a part # and source. I have also used a 6V push button on 12Volts for years, BUT I have had it stick when using the button on the solenoid( not the one on dash). Therefore I don’t use it much!

12-02-2018, 01:19 PM	#9
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 2,963	Re: 12 volt intermittent duty solenoid with button LUCAS- the devils own electrical system, and Yes I do speak from experience

12-02-2018, 06:20 PM	#10
koates Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Melbourne Australia. Posts: 2,079	Re: 12 volt intermittent duty solenoid with button alan, then let us know your experience with Lucas electrics. I have worked with Lucas electrics for years and know and understand the system. Seems that its some kind of a bad joke that Americans just cant cope with Lucas electrics. As an Australian our auto electrical training took in all types of systems because we had all types of cars , trucks and other makes of equipment over here. Unlike the USA we had a large amount of English cars over here. It would be nice if you could stop bagging Lucas equipment. Regards, Kevin.

12-03-2018, 10:47 AM	#11
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 2,963	Re: 12 volt intermittent duty solenoid with button try driving down the road in your TR3 at night and the lights go off, then the car quits and you are stranded for the third or fourth time!! then tell me how great the devils own electrical system is!! and yes I will "bagg" them forever

12-03-2018, 10:53 AM	#12
4t8v8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 524	Re: 12 volt intermittent duty solenoid with button Had a few BSA's and Triumphs in my early days. Know all about Lucas. No thanks!

12-03-2018, 05:58 PM	#14
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 2,963	Re: 12 volt intermittent duty solenoid with button you got it 51Merc! Love the switch cover

12-05-2018, 03:36 AM	#15
34PKUP Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 794	Re: 12 volt intermittent duty solenoid with button The fondest memory I have of Lucas is the day I got rid of the last Lucas equipped vehicle that I owned.