The Ford Barn

all american boy · 01-01-2020, 08:19 PM

Here is swell way to start out the New Year!

Figuring out 'What is it?'.

It says it is for '55 Chevy V8 to Ford OHV V8 (Y Block) type manual trans.

That don't look like a Chevy small block pattern to me.

Looks more like Chrysler or Ford V8 (Flathead).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Off...4AAOSwIMlc2Waz

Happy New Years!

ponymare · 01-02-2020, 07:32 AM

Might be a buick, mabey nail head?

all american boy · 01-02-2020, 09:26 AM

Thanks Ponymare

50's and early 60's were the heyday of engine swaps.

By the 70's these parts were going begging.

The factory big engines made swaps useless.

There are tons of articles in old hot rod magazines about swapping in the 50's.

The reason so many 'undisturbed' 50's Fords and Merc's survive today is

because the engine swap ones would get junked.

The 'All Ford' ones are around because there were so darn many Fords

made.

A '54 Ford OHV V8 (Y Block)would lose out to all these engines.

Cadillac, Oldsmobile and Buick.

Jumping from 239 cubes to 300 and above was the sensible thing to do to

get that ole' mobile going!

Pontiac was late to the scene.Chevrolet also with their 265 and later 348.

Here's a pic of whole special issue just about engine swaps.

deuce5wndw · 01-02-2020, 11:43 AM

I think you nailed it on the Chrysler because of the lip it has on the mounting side. The Chrysler has another part that mounts on the block before the flywheel and this bolts to that. I have a Cragar 402 it sure looks like that one.

rotorwrench · 01-02-2020, 12:40 PM

Mopar does have a round pattern but it seems like they have a different starter location.

It could be 59 series or earlier Ford V8 block to the later 259 series type transmissions used in the 8BA era.

It's an oddball for sure. It definitely isn't Chevrolet. They made a lot of stuff back in the day trying to get 4-speeds to fit stuff. The earlier Ford 4-speeds still used the narrow Borg Warner pattern till 66.

all american boy · 01-02-2020, 01:03 PM

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Thank you Deuce 5 Window and Rotorwrench

My worst day as a Lincoln 430 guy is better than a Chrysler,Dodge De Soto

hemi guy's best day.

There seems to be nothing early Hemi anywhere at all.

What are these people doing with the stuff?

That adapter for sale is a nice piece!

New in the original box w/paperwork.

Plus 'Make Offer'!

That adapter is for 'Classic Fords'.

1919 to @1937 hot rod material.Open engine compartment.

Maybe not.'49 Ford and Rebel Without a Cause Merc.

Have seen or heard about Hemi's in those.

Not '54 and up too much though.

KULTULZ · 01-02-2020, 04:14 PM

Quote:

ENGINE ADAPTER THAT SAYS 1955 UP CHEVROLET ENGINE TO 1949 UP FORD TRANSMISSION

It is to fit a SBC in an early FORD chassis.

Sid · 01-02-2020, 05:02 PM

It may be easier to identify if we can see the other side. It looks like a safe bet that trans. side is pre 66 Ford. I do not believe motor side is Chevy judging by the side bolt spacing on the sides. Chevy also has 2 dowels on the side.

deuce5wndw · 01-02-2020, 05:08 PM

Here is pictures of a Chrysler. The lip on the engine side is a give away! It would not bolt up to a block flat. Hey all american boy I have a adapter for a 430 to a early Ford!

deuce5wndw · 01-02-2020, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid

It may be easier to identify if we can see the other side. It looks like a safe bet that trans. side is pre 66 Ford. I do not believe motor side is Chevy judging by the side bolt spacing on the sides. Chevy also has 2 dowels on the side.

It shows the other side in the auction.

Sid · 01-02-2020, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deuce5wndw

It shows the other side in the auction.

Thanks...I saw that right after I posted. I might almost think early flathead (pre 49) to later style trans. 49 up. It wouldn't be an OHV Ford motor side as there are no provisions to bolt the starter. Also Chevy pre 63 starter bolted to the bell housing.

5851a · 01-02-2020, 05:44 PM

Looks to be half of the set. Offenhauser catalog show many 2 piece adapter bells. That number comes up as chevy to 49 and later Ford transmission must be the back half. Like Hurst motor swap mounts. You bought half the kit for engine and other half for chassis and the 2 would fit together.

all american boy · 01-02-2020, 07:44 PM

Thank you for all the responses

'Hey all american boy I have a adapter for a 430 to a early Ford!'

Oh darn! My 3 speed is the later type Ford item.

My bad.The 3 speed goes behind the 292.Hey! We already have the

biggest Cruisomatic ever made for the 430! You were trying to trick me!

Building a scattershield will be fun anyhow.

Here is Offenhauser catalog.

http://offenhauser.co/wp-content/upl...talog-1987.pdf

'Offenhauser is still family owned and operated in Los Angeles, California.'

THAT'S AMAZING!

Too bad everything they sell is way to rich for my blood!

it is our lot in life to be frugal hot rodders.

Sid · 01-02-2020, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5851a

Looks to be half of the set. Offenhauser catalog show many 2 piece adapter bells. That number comes up as chevy to 49 and later Ford transmission must be the back half. Like Hurst motor swap mounts. You bought half the kit for engine and other half for chassis and the 2 would fit together.

It looks like you are to use the adapter piece used on early Chevy V8 piece that was used on the early 55-62 Chevy for the cast iron power glides and turbo glides.

deuce5wndw · 01-02-2020, 08:22 PM

Cool catalog!!! Oh well not the first mistake I ever made!!

craig · 01-02-2020, 08:37 PM

Sid is correct, this bell required a GM "V8 adaptor plate" from an iron powerglide. a '55-56 pg used a GM23836142 and '57 pg used GM3733293. All 3 years would use a 168 tooth flywheel

KULTULZ · 01-03-2020, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deuce5wndw

Hey all american boy I have a adapter for a 430 to a early Ford!

You have an adapter for a 61/ LINC MEL to FE bell?

deuce5wndw · 01-03-2020, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

You have an adapter for a 61/ LINC MEL to FE bell?

No it is for the 430 to 48 or older transmission.

KULTULZ · 01-03-2020, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deuce5wndw

No it is for the 430 to 48 or older transmission.

THANX!

I thought I was going to learn something.

Which years of the 430, 58/60 or 61/65? A 48 TRANS would hold that amount of torque?

rotorwrench · 01-03-2020, 01:09 PM

I didn't even think about the P-glide front half bell. When thinking standard trans, a person brain flips right on by the automatic stuff. That seems like a strange way to make an adapter but aftermarket manufacturers always tend to look for the lowest cost options.

Some Chevy guys put them in Fords but most of us Ford guys use a Ford in a Ford. It's a matter of principals with some of us.

01-02-2020, 07:32 AM	#2
ponymare Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 160	Re: Offenhauser Chevy 265/283 To Ford Manual Transmission Adapter Might be a buick, mabey nail head?

01-02-2020, 11:43 AM	#4
deuce5wndw Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Liberty, KY Posts: 900	Re: Offenhauser Chevy 265/283 To Ford Manual Transmission Adapter I think you nailed it on the Chrysler because of the lip it has on the mounting side. The Chrysler has another part that mounts on the block before the flywheel and this bolts to that. I have a Cragar 402 it sure looks like that one.

01-02-2020, 12:40 PM	#5
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,426	Re: Offenhauser Chevy 265/283 To Ford Manual Transmission Adapter Mopar does have a round pattern but it seems like they have a different starter location. It could be 59 series or earlier Ford V8 block to the later 259 series type transmissions used in the 8BA era. It's an oddball for sure. It definitely isn't Chevrolet. They made a lot of stuff back in the day trying to get 4-speeds to fit stuff. The earlier Ford 4-speeds still used the narrow Borg Warner pattern till 66.

01-02-2020, 01:03 PM	#6
all american boy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Podunk Junction, U.S.A. Posts: 622	Re: Offenhauser Chevy 265/283 To Ford Manual Transmission Adapter Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thank you Deuce 5 Window and Rotorwrench My worst day as a Lincoln 430 guy is better than a Chrysler,Dodge De Soto hemi guy's best day. There seems to be nothing early Hemi anywhere at all. What are these people doing with the stuff? That adapter for sale is a nice piece! New in the original box w/paperwork. Plus 'Make Offer'! That adapter is for 'Classic Fords'. 1919 to @1937 hot rod material.Open engine compartment. Maybe not.'49 Ford and Rebel Without a Cause Merc. Have seen or heard about Hemi's in those. Not '54 and up too much though. __________________ 'Has racing made you a millionare?' 'Yes it has.Before I was a multi-millionaire.'-Quote

01-02-2020, 05:02 PM	#8
Sid Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rathdrum Idaho Posts: 737	Re: Offenhauser Chevy 265/283 To Ford Manual Transmission Adapter It may be easier to identify if we can see the other side. It looks like a safe bet that trans. side is pre 66 Ford. I do not believe motor side is Chevy judging by the side bolt spacing on the sides. Chevy also has 2 dowels on the side. Last edited by Sid; 01-02-2020 at 05:09 PM.

01-02-2020, 05:44 PM	#12
5851a Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: NE Iowa Posts: 1,664	Re: Offenhauser Chevy 265/283 To Ford Manual Transmission Adapter Looks to be half of the set. Offenhauser catalog show many 2 piece adapter bells. That number comes up as chevy to 49 and later Ford transmission must be the back half. Like Hurst motor swap mounts. You bought half the kit for engine and other half for chassis and the 2 would fit together.

01-02-2020, 07:44 PM	#13
all american boy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Podunk Junction, U.S.A. Posts: 622	Re: Offenhauser Chevy 265/283 To Ford Manual Transmission Adapter Thank you for all the responses 'Hey all american boy I have a adapter for a 430 to a early Ford!' Oh darn! My 3 speed is the later type Ford item. My bad.The 3 speed goes behind the 292.Hey! We already have the biggest Cruisomatic ever made for the 430! You were trying to trick me! Building a scattershield will be fun anyhow. Here is Offenhauser catalog. http://offenhauser.co/wp-content/upl...talog-1987.pdf 'Offenhauser is still family owned and operated in Los Angeles, California.' THAT'S AMAZING! Too bad everything they sell is way to rich for my blood! it is our lot in life to be frugal hot rodders. __________________ 'Has racing made you a millionare?' 'Yes it has.Before I was a multi-millionaire.'-Quote

01-02-2020, 08:22 PM	#15
deuce5wndw Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Liberty, KY Posts: 900	Re: Offenhauser Chevy 265/283 To Ford Manual Transmission Adapter Cool catalog!!! Oh well not the first mistake I ever made!!

01-02-2020, 08:37 PM	#16
craig Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: The Inland Empire of Washington State Posts: 368	Re: Offenhauser Chevy 265/283 To Ford Manual Transmission Adapter Sid is correct, this bell required a GM "V8 adaptor plate" from an iron powerglide. a '55-56 pg used a GM23836142 and '57 pg used GM3733293. All 3 years would use a 168 tooth flywheel

01-03-2020, 01:09 PM	#20
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,426	Re: Offenhauser Chevy 265/283 To Ford Manual Transmission Adapter I didn't even think about the P-glide front half bell. When thinking standard trans, a person brain flips right on by the automatic stuff. That seems like a strange way to make an adapter but aftermarket manufacturers always tend to look for the lowest cost options. Some Chevy guys put them in Fords but most of us Ford guys use a Ford in a Ford. It's a matter of principals with some of us.