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Old 03-01-2017, 12:49 AM   #1
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This found its way into the guru's shop recently and caused some conversation. Anyone have any info?
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Old 03-01-2017, 01:13 AM   #2
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Home made oil warmer? If it's a warmer, car/truck could have come from a cold area and would have been better then an open flame under the pan.
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This found its way into the guru's shop recently and caused some conversation. Anyone have any info?
Oil cooler (radiator) possibly for racing ?
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Old 03-01-2017, 02:23 AM   #4
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Oil cooler is my bet. Air flows through the tubes to cool the oil.
When travelling outback, cooling is a problem and I've wondered about cooling the oil. A friend has tubes running front to back for that purpose. This appears to be a similar set up.
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Old 03-01-2017, 09:32 AM   #5
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I think it's a barbeque grill!
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Old 03-01-2017, 09:42 AM   #6
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It interesting how the warm climate guys see an oil cooler. Me, here in the cold climate, see it as an oil warmer. However, it would require quite an elaborate setup to run warm liquid through the tubes, so likely it is an oil cooler.
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Old 03-01-2017, 09:44 AM   #7
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I think it's a barbeque grill!
Mmmmm, BBQ
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Old 03-01-2017, 09:48 AM   #8
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Some entrepreneur was going to start a restaurant here in NW Indiana doing all the cooking on grills like the one in post #7. Lots of publicity, but it never happened. Thankfully.
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oil warmer . hot water inlet & outlet
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I live in an area where it is both Hot in summer and Cold in winter. Could it be a system to heat the inside of the car in winter with a heater core under the seat? Certainly non-traditional approach.
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Old 03-01-2017, 11:19 AM   #11
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I live in an area where it is both Hot in summer and Cold in winter. Could it be a system to heat the inside of the car in winter with a heater core under the seat? Certainly non-traditional approach.
If connected to a warm water core under the seat, one would not have to worry about exhaust gasses entering the cabin, as with the manifold heaters!

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I'll second the oil warmed heater coil, biased in the North West.
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Some one was racing on a track and used it to cool the oil. I do not think some one would go through all the trouble to warm the oil. I do remember the days of starting cars when it was 20,and 30 below O in northern Mich.
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To warm the oil/engine or to cool it take the same amount of work to install.
As a cooler stock setup, if you take water off the top at 180 pump it thru the coil, it picks up more heat. Where would you pump it back into, not the lower inlet hose as that would defeat the cooling of the radiator by introducing now hot water into the cool water. Heat rises and the water pump is there to assist the natural flow. You would almost have to mount a water pump on the inlet and pull cool water from that location, run it thru the cooler back then back into the upper hose. ?
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Old 03-01-2017, 01:02 PM   #15
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This probably dates back to the '30's or '40's when not every home had a garage (or even a hot water heater or maybe no running water). If you had to drag a hose from the water heater to the car, hook it up, hook up a return hose, then turn the water on, it would likely freeze before it circulated. Doesn't take long at 30 below!
You could hook up the water when the engine was still warm and let the water run all night, but most A owners back then were either too poor or too thrifty to do that.
So likely a low budget oil cooler.
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Super Rare!! Put it on Ebay and get rich real quick!
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Old 03-01-2017, 02:43 PM   #17
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i doubt it would be too effective as a warmer. The coils are in the sump, so the rods are still churning through cold oil in the splash trays. The oil pump would be happier. I vote cooler.
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That is all the kerosene heaters did when used, heat the oil in the pan. You may not have experienced 30Wt oil even on a 25 deg day! Any heat is going to help heat rises so some will get to the splash tray. People didn't have block heaters as you may know them that heated the water, hell some didn't even have electricity.
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Good idea! Try to get it listed next to that $12,000 '32 radio!!
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To solve the argument wether it is an oil warmer or oil cooler, lets call it a heat exchanger!
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