Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Early V8 (1932-53)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-31-2020, 11:09 AM   #1
rust revival
Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ontario
Posts: 53
Default King pin bolts 1932

Hello on my 32 spindles what king pin kit can I use to eliminate the top brake cup ? I see I can use a thin needle type bearing but would like to stay away from that.
I found a pair in the shop that measures 6" ???? Not sure what year

I put them to hold spindle so I could work on backing plates and noticed a heck of a gap
What goes in between the axle and the spindle ???

I'm new to this. Any help would be great

Last edited by rust revival; 05-31-2020 at 01:28 PM.
rust revival is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2020, 12:27 PM   #2
cas3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: sw minnesota
Posts: 2,284
Default Re: King pin bolts 1932

on a normal 32 axle set up the ball bearing is on top of the spindle, then the brake cup above that.should be very little gap between the axle boss and the spindle, and thin shims were included in the king pin set. many folks cut the brake cup off and fill it with weld then grind it smooth. or, you get a 37 and up king pin and cut the bottom off to match the length of the 32. any will work if you match the notch for the locating pin to your 32
cas3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 05-31-2020, 01:02 PM   #3
rust revival
Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ontario
Posts: 53
Default Re: King pin bolts 1932

Don't think they make a shim thick enough for this ? So on the 32 the bearing goes on top ? Anyone have a diagram were does the felt&cup go ect
rust revival is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2020, 01:03 PM   #4
rust revival
Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ontario
Posts: 53
Default Re: King pin bolts 1932

[url]http://IMG_20200531_120121[/url. Very hard to upload pictures on this site ,or to delete your own comments?
rust revival is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2020, 01:04 PM   #5
rust revival
Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ontario
Posts: 53
Default Re: King pin bolts 1932

[IMhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/185431...posted-public/

Last edited by rust revival; 05-31-2020 at 01:27 PM.
rust revival is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2020, 01:11 PM   #6
DavidG
Senior Member
 
DavidG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 6,888
Default Re: King pin bolts 1932

The bearing goes on top and felt and its retaining washer insert at the bottom of the axle.
DavidG is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2020, 04:04 PM   #7
jimvette59
Senior Member
 
jimvette59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 948
Default Re: King pin bolts 1932

I think you got it all mixed up. The spindles my be 35 36. Get a set of 37 or later square back spindles and use the king pins you have. JMHO


After looking at your picture all you need is a set on early king pins with mechanical brakes.

You will have to cut off the cups leaving flat part.

Last edited by jimvette59; 06-01-2020 at 10:28 AM.
jimvette59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2020, 04:20 PM   #8
TJ
Senior Member
 
TJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Napa,California
Posts: 4,480
Default Re: King pin bolts 1932

I assume you have hydraulic brakes if you want to eliminate to cup on top of the pin. If you have the pins with no cup on the top they are the later 37-48 pins. If they measure 6" they are specifiaclly 42-48 pins.. By using those pins with the correct spindles you will also have to purchase a steering arm to bolt to the left spindle for your '32 drag link. Speedway Motors would have that arm.
TJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2020, 07:28 PM   #9
JSeery
Senior Member
 
JSeery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Wichita KS
Posts: 14,266
Default Re: King pin bolts 1932

Not super clear in the Green Book diagram, but the bearing is #3123 and goes on top of the axle. #3121 is the felt and goes below the axle.

Not sure why TJ believes you need to add anything to the spindle? I use the 33-34 axles with later spindles, but a 32 axle would work just as well (just more expensive to come by! ). Unless you were to use an aftermarket spindles that do not have the arms forged into them.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Capture.jpg (63.1 KB, 10 views)
JSeery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2020, 07:43 PM   #10
rust revival
Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ontario
Posts: 53
Default Re: King pin bolts 1932

32 spindles 32 axle non drop. I've converted to front hydraulic brakes so yes I do not need the stock 33 king pins with the brake cup on top
rust revival is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2020, 08:12 PM   #11
Andy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Kerrville, Tx
Posts: 2,380
Default Re: King pin bolts 1932

I have used two sets of 32 king pins over the years. I just cut the cups off leaving a ledge to support the bearing. Worked just fine. A friend tried the needle bearings. He did not think it worked well at all. He found them damaged when he removed them. They could not support the load.
Andy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2020, 08:30 AM   #12
TJ
Senior Member
 
TJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Napa,California
Posts: 4,480
Default Re: King pin bolts 1932

Quote:
Originally Posted by JSeery View Post
Not super clear in the Green Book diagram, but the bearing is #3123 and goes on top of the axle. #3121 is the felt and goes below the axle.

Not sure why TJ believes you need to add anything to the spindle? I use the 33-34 axles with later spindles, but a 32 axle would work just as well (just more expensive to come by! ). Unless you were to use an aftermarket spindles that do not have the arms forged into them.
If you reread my post I told the OP that the pins that he has in his shop were for the 42-48 spindle. It appears they are 6" long and do not have the cup on top. If he were to use a 42-48 spindle with them he would need the aftermarket steering arm with the '32 drag link.

Last edited by TJ; 06-01-2020 at 08:38 AM.
TJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2020, 10:17 AM   #13
JSeery
Senior Member
 
JSeery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Wichita KS
Posts: 14,266
Default Re: King pin bolts 1932

Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ View Post
If you reread my post I told the OP that the pins that he has in his shop were for the 42-48 spindle. It appears they are 6" long and do not have the cup on top. If he were to use a 42-48 spindle with them he would need the aftermarket steering arm with the '32 drag link.
OK, the light went on! Not really sure why I was thinking of cross-steering and I don't use cross-steering! LOL. Yes, you need the aftermarket steering arm with the later spindles and steering box side drag link.
JSeery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2020, 02:28 PM   #14
Krylon32
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,458
Default Re: King pin bolts 1932

I have used the king pin kit from Early V8 Garage with success on my 32 pickup. One of the secrets to a longer life is proper installation and keeping the needle bearings adequately greased. I needed them because I used MT Lincoln brakes and they made the installation easier.
Krylon32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:14 PM.