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Old 01-05-2012, 08:12 PM   #1
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:16 PM   #2
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One of you with plenty of money really ought to buy that gun to go with your model A! Wouldn't that make a fun parade accessory? Up here in the sticks I'm sure anyone could get away with rapping off a few rounds of blanks as well. Sometimes the "cowboys" on the horses will fire their sixguns...
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:36 AM   #3
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I would like to see a picture of either Bonnie or Clyde with a Thompson. His weapon of choice was a BAR for distance and kill rate and a shotgun for close contact.
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:38 AM   #4
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As can be seen here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WD...ndGuns1933.jpg

I believe the BAR's were modified, shortened. The guns are cool but I would much rather have that 32 with the dual sidemounts and metal tire covers.
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:49 AM   #5
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I think they called it a whip-it, cut off barrel and a leather strap on the butt, Worked great for inside use in a 32 ford, they said.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:00 AM   #6
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Here,s the one I carry in the back of my 31 to shows around town.
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:50 PM   #7
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Lot's of stuff on this site and the FBI's site.

http://texashideout.tripod.com/bc.htm
http://vault.fbi.gov/Bonnie%20and%20Clyde
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:34 PM   #8
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I'm 99% positive Clyde of "Bonnie & Clyde" outlaw murder'ers fame. Never
carried or used a Thompson. Who ever says that they did use this Tommy
gun are just trying to up the antie on the auction. This "Chicago typewriter" is one nice 1921A version of the Thompson. A somewhat rare version at that. The '21A Thompson cost -$175- brand new back in the day. The model 1921AC Thompson cost -$200- brand new with the extra
-$25- paying for a "Cutts" compensator located at the end of the barrel.
The Cutts was suppose to help reduce the inherint climb of the gun when
firing in full auto. I own a legal 1928 model Thompson and the Cutts does
not help much at all. The '28 model Thompsons were essentially the same as the '21 models except their rates of fire were slowed down: from 1,000 rounds per minute to 600 rounds per minute approximately. This was done
to meet the specs for the US Military contracts. Let me tell you trying to
control a '28 model at 600 rpm is hard enough especially if you do a whole
50 round drum magazine "dump" at one trigger pull! But it sure is FUN!

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Old 01-07-2012, 06:58 PM   #9
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I agree with Jim that the weapon of choice was the BAR. I was told by a law enforcement officer of that era that it was even Bonnie's weapon of choice.

Bob, the experience I had with our sheriff's department's 28 was just the opposite. The rate of fire seemed terribly slow and the thing was so heavy it didn't climb at all, even on full auto. It wanted to constantly fall below the target. I will agree that it was a lot of fun, but it could get terribly expensive.
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:59 PM   #10
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JBR,

Didn't the lawman who finally caught up with the criminals also use a BAR?
One report I read said that also a .30 cal. Browning water cooled heavy maching gun was used in the ambush.

I'm not the strongest guy in the world and definitely not a good shot,
hence owning a Thompson "chopper". In order for me to try and be
any kind of accurate using my '28 model. I have to aim it using the
leaning forward stance taught in the WWII Army manual. Even with
the added weight of the 50 round or "L" drum it seems to want to climb
to me. The full auto cyclic firing rates of the '21 verus's the '28 model
are noticebly different when you fire the guns. I reload my own ammo
it is a heck of a lot cheaper. And owing to how much and type/brand
of powder used in reloading can alter the cyclic firing rate of a Thompson.
A dirty gun or a gun fired a lot between cleanings will also have a slower
cyclic firing rate. My gun stopped shooting altogether once because of
to much burnt powder in the chamber. Not a situation that I would want to be in if in actual combat with a "trench broom"!

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Old 01-07-2012, 08:39 PM   #11
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Bob, I enjoyed your posts about the Thompsons. I know almost nothing about firearms, but have always loved the look of Thompsons and Gatling guns depicted in the movies.
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:19 PM   #12
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The first BAR's I ever seen were the ones that were used by the ARVN's (Army of The Republic of Viet Nam).They were bigger than the ARVN's who carried them .They had a sound all their own and were big and heavy . The AK -47 's were an awesome weapon.

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Old 01-08-2012, 12:52 PM   #13
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Here you go check out #12.
http://www.21facts.com/people/bonnie-clyde.php
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My experience with the Thompson when an officer on a police dept. was that one would have to use the lean forward stance and pull down on the front stock to keep it on target. If one had a loose grip on it, it would rise to the right and get there quickly. One has to man handle it to a degree to control it. If you had a tight grip on it, it would do the job. Since we were a small dept. in a small town, we never really had a need for it except for the occasional drug raid. Just the appearance of that weapon would keep things under control. All of the officers would have liked to practiced with it more, but the budget wouldn't support it and an officers salary back then wouldn't allow them to buy the ammo for fun. You used it just enough to know what you had in your hands and how to control it. The only person that is an expert with it is one that uses it often and with lengthy sessions. At that time we had a couple of FBI agents that were quite good with it. They had the budget.
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From Wikapedia:

"Each of us six officers had a shotgun and an automatic rifle (BAR) and pistols. We opened fire with the automatic rifles. They were emptied before the car got even with us. Then we used shotguns... There was smoke coming from the car, and it looked like it was on fire. After shooting the shotguns, we emptied the pistols at the car, which had passed us and ran into a ditch about 50 yards on down the road. It almost turned over. We kept shooting at the car even after it stopped. We weren't taking any chances."[105]

The Browning Automatic Rifles (Monitor) were specially ordered for the possie.
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