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Recently there was a topic that ran for several days asking about information/suggestions for one of the regular contributors, concerning his desire to secure a EFV8 car that he could do safety modifications to for daily use by him and his 16 year old daughter.
I and others made several suggestions to "Walt", One of my suggestions to Walt was received with very good feed-back by Walt. In his response he asked the question as to how to best allow for a column gear shift for the AT trans he was considering... I responded to his question, with text and two pictures. Looking through the Early V8 '32-53 forum today I noted that the entire topic is gone. Was the thread omitted for the forum because the subject matter was about modifications, or is it just a simple glitch in the system.?
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Yep, google picked it up "1937 to 1941 - What to buy for a daily driver". And yep, it's gone. Please notify the administrator. Jack E/NJ
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Hum. I wonder why? Seemed like legitimate questions and answers That was Vintage Copper47.
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Haven't you noticed... There are more and more questions about modifying Fords lately. Ryan has been asleep at the switch.
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I think it was deleted because there were several pictures posted of cars that are For Sale as suggestions to the guy for his consideration to purchase....
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Yeah, buying or modifying a 37 to 41 to get a safe daily driver is much more off topic than, say, putting an Olds drivetrain in a 39. 8^) Jack E/NJ
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I think that Olds thread is an anomaly, as many of us did (including me) have a Ford/Olds when we were young and dumb. Two reasons, I believe, why the BARN is, and continues to be so popular: No hot rods, and we are civil to each other. That the hot rodders can't police their own Forum is not reason to take over our Forum. Don't take that as a slam against hot rodders, it's just too easy to lose control of a Forum.
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One other thing, if the thread was pulled because the links to cars for sale.. I understand.. but to pull the thread because someone recommended an auto trans, upgraded front or rear end.. seems hypocritical.. there are plenty on the barn that add electronic ignitions, disc brakes, modified engines, etc..
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The HAMB is not about flatheads.. in my opinion.. Everything on the HAMB is about red flames, monster pipes, tilt steering wheels, SBCs, and velour bucket seats! Sorry, no disrespect intended.. But those kinds of cars are not what I am about..
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Been on the HAMB longer than on the Barn. Think you will find the same distinction I used over there with a lot of folks as well. You will see a lot of Barn folks are on both forums.
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Whew....just about everything you listed above IS NOT what the H.A.M.B. is all about. The H.A.M.B. is about the "traditional hot rod" world, before 1965. The term "street rod" ain't cool over there, either! DD
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I go for cars that are only slightly modified for safety & comfort.. everything else.. stock.. especially the outside.. I would never put a chevy engine in a ford.. I like Henry's attitude.. "they can have a car in any color they want.. black"
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Oh no The Hot Rodders are going to ruin everything LOL
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damn kids!
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I think you may be confusing the HAMB with hotrodders.com.HAMB is not a streetrod site.
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I've been on the hamb since like 99-01 or so. Some amazingly knowledgeable flathead guys over there. Check the traditional hotrod section maybe once a week, some good builds sometimes.
Moved over here back when Shelly ran it, because I'm more interested in the original aspect of these fords (and I received answers there like, "you should ask that on the barn"). I guess their gain is your guys loss. . Is hoppin' a flathead here bad...nope. I'm not apposed to the occasional culling. Last edited by Tinker; 03-02-2018 at 10:36 PM. |
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But the HAMB does have a custom section with lots of slammed, & chopped & metallic green machines.. if that isn't a street rod.. then what is? Not trying to disrespect anyone.. there is the "general" section called the "hokey ass message board (I know, HAMB).. I was referring to the other two sections "traditional hot rods" and "traditional customs"... a lot of modified cars there.. I am not looking for that stuff, I prefer a basically stock vehicle, with minor upgrades.. which is why I love the Barn!
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Early Chop'd and channeled cars are not normally referred to as Street Rods. Street Rods are later OHV engined cars (usually SBC, but lately a lot of SBFs), Mustang II type front ends, that sort of thing. And a lot of billet aluminum, etc. To me it is fairly easy to tell the difference (at least in my own mind! ). In general pre-mid fifty's (or earlier to me) & post that era (think 60s and 70s).
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Tilt steering is getting into the Street Rod range!
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a street rod has a can of wax in the trunk, and a hot rod has tools in the trunk. theres the difference
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Hotrods and all early fords need to have 3 pedals
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WINNER-Chicken Dinner! DD
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https://www.kustomrama.com/index.php...%27s_1958_Ford Barris did make a lot of tv/movie clown cars, Munsters drag car. To me the others never did that. Is there some confusion between period correct and stock restoration going on here. Ya maybe. Last edited by Tinker; 03-02-2018 at 10:15 PM. |
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Vintage Copper,
What happened with the 41 Ford Super Deluxe that you were looking at on the V8 Forum? I notice it had a similar paint scheme as your 47. |
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To me, and you can roast me, what makes this place special is the guys that can rattle off ford part numbers for a ford 34' tudor radiator bolt. Amazes me anyway.
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there are some sharp folks here, we are lucky to have them.
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Yep!
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It could be that the deletion of the thread started by "Vintage Copper 47" was due to my response to "Walt's" question about how to add a AT column to an old Ford, and the pix' I attached showing a tilt column and a aftermarket banjo wheel in my '39. The second pix showed the interior of my '36 Ford with a chrome dash and a column gear shift on the left side of the column.
As the old car hobby has evolved in the last ten to twenty years, a new phraseology has emerged to describe cars like my '39 convertible, "Resto-Mod".. This terminology is generally used to describe vehicles that still retain their original look, but have improved mechanical components for reliability and safety. In the case of my '36 Ford, yes, almost every mechanical part in the car is '40-48 Ford which have all been bolt-in applications. The only welding ever done to the chassis is to simulate the rivets that attached the '40 steering gear mount to the frame. I wonder, just how many '36 Ford 5 win cp's exist today that still have all of their original glass, upholstery, accessories, etc., and have only been repainted the original color once? I would venture the guess that if all of the questions related to modifications to an Early Ford were eliminated from the Barn, the contributions/questions would be cut at least in half.
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See post #5
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My original topic was for advice on buying a car for daily driver.. Sadly that purchase won't happen for at least a year.. unless I get a car that was donated to me...
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Well, looking at my avatar all I can say is, "I know nut TINK!" Lol!
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Sgt. Schultz? DD
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damn kids and them jalopys
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I know my name is mud here on the Barn because of the Oldsmobile thread, but I think (and this is just my opinion so if you're hyper-sensitive take it with a grain of salt) a person can go to any number of places to learn how to defile an early Ford.
I thought the Ford Barn was a safe zone from that so maybe it's me that's hyper-sensitive, but for heavens sake how else could one describe it? I love traditional hot rods just as much as the next guy at the same time I take an about face if someone had to raid the Gm and Chrysler or anybody's but Ford's parts bins to make their cars go. Again there is about a 9 to 1 ratio all over the Internet of guys that are finely in tune with the de-Fording process that so many "not rodders" love. If this isn't the place to learn and share about doing it the "Ford" way then I too will move along (probably to the delight of more than a few guys on here). |
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Can't let it go can you. Maybe if you post the same thing 20 more times it will work! I'm as Ford as you can get. Drive nothing but Fords, wear Ford logo clothing most of the time, work on nothing but Fords. I had a SBC in a 33 Plymouth B/A for a year in the mid 60s, that's it, was replaced the next season with a SBF. I don't think you understood the Olds thread at all. It was about what was going on in the 50s and someone asking some questions about that era for a specific purpose. The barn is Ford flathead specific with occasional tangents into other areas. It is odd that you seem hell bent on continuing this.
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In some respects I am a real anomaly in the old car world. I started out a certified Hot Rodder in my early teens. My '36 Ford, when I bought it in September '52, was not my first car by a long sight. I had at least five GM cars from '38 to '42 before the '36. I bought my first car, a '40 Chevy coupe when I was 14, I paid $800. cash for it.
I did a lot customizing to the first five cars, fender skirts, twice pipes, spotlights, sun visor, flipper disk hub caps, etc., as was the style in the late '40's , early '50's. And yes, I made some improvements to the engine's. One of my '38 Chevy's was the most notable, I put a GMC 270 CID with improved carburetion, headers, and a Mallory ignition in the car. Fast was an under statement. The '38 was not a hot rod, it was more of a performance custom, with warm air and sweet music. In my mind a Hot Rod is a car that is fenderless, a Model A, '32 or '33-34., I have never owned a Hot Rod, nor will I. Of course a Hot Rod can also be a car with no hood and a monster, blown hemi sticking above the cowl.. In 1954 I got tired of the tail-dragger look of my '36. It became increasing more difficult to keep the "hoods" from steeling my teardrop skirts and flipper disk hubcaps, I took the long shackles off of the rear, the solid hood panels, replaced the Douglas mufflers with stock mufflers, bought a set of '46 Ford hub caps at a local wreaking yard and set out to enjoy the peace and quiet of stock mufflers, sweet music and warm air. My '36 Ford and I have been together for 66 years, we have traveled over 94.k miles together, throughout the eleven western states. I have to admit that I almost put a SBC in the '36 in the early '60's. it was the thing to do, everyone was doing it. I bought all of the adapters to put a SBC on my Ford trans, however, I could not bring myself to do it.. The 59AB engine in my car runs to good, so I put the SBC conversion parts on the shelf, they are still there.
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Oh man, here we go again.
X2 what Indy said. I have a flathead roadster that I built, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy other combo's. Unlike you. Maybe you could start your own website. Just a thought. |
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I own 10 vintage cars 6 stock and 4 modified to my taste of the 50s something I owned or helped with in the day and who can fault that beautiful black 36 three window with the Caddy it is simply stunning so "LETS ROLL"!
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did i say say somthin wrong?
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I also appreciate and have, a couple of my cars with flatheads, but I also have the same appreciation for my HotRods that are era correct.
For some it is obvious that having an appreciation/love for the lines/styling/beauty of these cars is not enough, but more what powers them, even if it is within the bounds of tradition. I also get that it's the Ford Barn, not the HAMB (I am also on the HAMB), but if you're fanatical like myself you gather information wherever it is at. A real shame that the Olds thread got shut down, some good information, until the haters joined in with their unsolicited replies, rather than just ignoring it.
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I never read the "Olds" thread. When I saw the word Olds, I chose to ignore it. Given all the controversy about it on this thread, I now wish I would have read it....
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me too pete, no interest, no look
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It was a very interesting thread!
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Well guys I could apologize for barging in on the Olds thread but y'all wouldn't believe me anyways. I had no business barging in on someone else's thread. For that I'm truly sorry.
What you guys don't realize is that I understand completely why caddy's and olds and then later sbc's were the thing to do back in the day. Up until the Internet and the advent of car enthusiasts forums guys like me had no voice. I remember reading all about how it was and I have many friends just like you guys that had no qualms about bastardizing old Fords. To tell you the truth I was flabbergasted by a couple guys that chimed in admitting they went the Gm route back in the day. I thought those guys were true blue. I've always had a hard time figuring out how say a Mopar or Porsche purist is totally in bounds when they rail about preserving the breed that's all good and fine, but let a Ford guy speak up and I'm a butthole. I've talked to a hundred guys over the years who call themselves Ford guys but the 350 chevy is in their car because it either came that way or they had one laying around. Ha! I've been around plenty of hot rods, worked on quite a few with bastard engines in them and most of them are cut up in some way. The worst one was when I was just a lad and my former boss came rolling up in a beautiful '39 Coupe that he bought. Man it was nice and then he opens the hood and it's a sbc hooked to the '39 trans. My heart sank. He goes on to tell me he could just pull that engine out if he wanted to and bolt in a Flatty and no one would ever know the difference. That really got to me, so I went to work. I researched everything there was to know about the possibility of doing a SBF swap the same way. I came to the conclusion that the oil pump was going to interfere with the stock crossmember. Remembering that I wanted to make it a bolt in operation I designed and with some help a special oil pump mounted in the front cover to remove the interference problem. It worked great in prototype. I went so far as to drive straight into Ford Performance headquarters and with several key engineers around me I pitched the idea and demonstrated my part. That was all great but stillborn because Ford had no budget for parts for early cars at that time. Good thing really because as I have progressed through life I have come to the conclusion that most hot rodders don't realize that Ford ever built an OHV V8. The mental leap is straight to the Gm parts bin. It would have flopped but at least I could say I done it. So I'll leave you guys alone. You guys have every right to do as you wish with YOUR car. Who am I to say different? It is like I called it, " part of the culture", so much that guys are recreating what they did in the 50's and 60's so as to dissolve more Fords, and the funny thing is I'm the only one who cares. Ford obviously doesn't and furthermore I think they would condone a bastard combination so long as the Ford silhouette and logo is intact. For gosh sakes when FoMoCo celebrated the 75th anniversary of the Deuce there were more Gm and Chrysler powered cars there than there were Fords. Ford gave them trophies! So carry on fellas I'll try not to bud in anymore but at least you know where I'm coming from. Sorry. |
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Wow, he just doesnt know when to stop. You keep saying the same thing over and over. Im sure this will be the next thread to disappear.
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Henry Floored - I see that you have posted here 466 times. I did not research your posts. Were they all as controversial as these latest ones from you? Were they all about swapping out Flathead V8's with OHV8's in an otherwise stock Ford? How many of them were deleted?
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So carry on fellas I'll try not to bud in anymore but at least you know where I'm coming from. Sorry.
I think it is "butt in", Not "bud in". Well, now we can say good bye to this thread. LOL. |
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Sorry guys. I have been asleep at the wheel recently. Really busy at work. I’ll be back soon.
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Sure got quiet around here.
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I thought the same thing earlier today when I saw that Ryan had posted here.
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