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01-11-2018, 10:26 PM | #1 |
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Yard sale "A" project
I found this at a local yard sale recently and I have questions.
This was represented as a 1931 Ford Town Sedan. I think the previous owner had it since the 1980's as a project that never happened. He said he had planned to build it with a steel inner structure as a street rod. At the sale It was all piled on a trailer minus axles, engine and cowl section. I paid $500 for it. I already have multiple axles, an engine and etc. My biggest concern is the cowl section and building the wood inner structure. I think the Town sedan cowl is a totally different "Animal" than a standard coupe or sedan cowl...is that right ? Could a standard cowl section be modified to work as a replacement ? It seems like it would be very difficult to find a T.S. cowl. I love the stock Model A look, but I don't mind minor mechanical deviations from stock to get a car working and on the road. Any guidance or advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance. P.S. Is it a Murray or a Briggs ? |
01-11-2018, 10:52 PM | #2 |
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I felt sorry I had no shoes,till I saw the man with no feet..
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01-11-2018, 11:38 PM | #3 |
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Re: Yard sale "A" project
It isn't a Murry body. I think wood kits are available.
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01-11-2018, 11:39 PM | #4 |
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I think you did OK
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01-12-2018, 12:35 AM | #5 |
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You need to find a 4door cowl. The coupe cowl is close but the doors are different,I don't think yours would mount properly. You have a Briggs body and I think either a murray or briggs 4door cowl would work
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01-12-2018, 12:42 PM | #7 |
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01-12-2018, 09:47 AM | #9 |
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Brad, what you have is a Briggs body. The clue is the door windows are straight at the top. The Murray has a slight curve. My understanding is that the difference in a standard fordor sedan and a Town sedan is the level of trim inside. The town sedan has upscale interior.
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01-12-2018, 10:02 AM | #10 |
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Hi Brad,
The issue you will have is finding the right cowl section. You have either a early 30 body or early 31. The late 30 had a slightly different set of front fenders and splash aprons. If you have a lot of wood in the body the kits are available but that will indicate that it is not a slant window late 31. Mike
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$2300 worth of wood and you'll be good to go.
Forgot about subrails and doors $2880. Bob Last edited by Bob C; 01-12-2018 at 12:35 PM. |
01-12-2018, 11:55 AM | #12 |
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Brad, Check out http://www.fordwood.com in Utah. They list all the wood needed, but it ain't cheap. For a Briggs 155/165, all the wood including the door with fasteners is $5,410.00, plus shipping. Maybe you can find cheaper.
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01-12-2018, 12:26 PM | #13 |
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just some info
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A lot of people don't care for MAC's but their online catalog has more good info than most Vendors if you know where to look.
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01-12-2018, 12:22 PM | #16 |
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I forgot to post up the serial number from the frame.
*A37903379* The frame is very nice so the numbers are very legible. The 03 in the middle, between the 379's, are over stamped...3 over 0 or vice versa...what is that about ? |
01-12-2018, 01:37 PM | #17 |
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you will be upside down on this quick. make sure you want to go forward, before you do.
sorry to sound discouraging, but I always look for the path of least resistance. |
01-13-2018, 12:22 AM | #19 | |
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You have at least $500.00 in parts in the doors, rear fenders, hood, radiator shell, and frame. Before spending a lot of money on parts for this project, you may want to consult with Brent Terry Restorations about assembling and fitting the wood kits that will be required to restore this. Brent has installed many wood components for Model A’s. He would be a great person to provide a little insight into the details of restoring this car. While anything can be restored, I personally would never start a restoration on a project like this. Many parts are missing besides the cowl. Door garnish moldings, front seat frame, seat springs, door hinges, door latches and handles, visor, running boards,running board aprons, and headlights, just to name a few. The cost of missing parts along with the cost of the wood kits, Upholstery, top material, glass, and restoration of drive train components will far exceed the value of the completed vehicle. I am also not trying to discourage you, but I hope you thoroughly estimate the cost of doing a restoration with this project before you commit to doing this. ( my experience has shown that whatever dollar amount you come up with for your estimate, double it) |
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I see how a restoration would cost more than the finished project would be worth. There is a decent looking 4 door near me that has been looking for a new owner for a long time now...I'd have less money in it and be driving sooner. |
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