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Rick Goddard · 10-11-2018, 12:42 PM

I need paint repairs on my '34. Hopefully it's a true Dearborn blue. I'm hoping to blend it as the repairs aren't near shadow lines. its lacquer so I need the formula / toner numbers and quantities for acrylic lacquer. As I live in Massachusetts, I also need an out of state mail order supplier. Besides help, I welcome advice.

JSeery · 10-11-2018, 02:25 PM

Any color is going to be very difficult to match and I believe the formulas are not easy to come by as well. Maybe someone here on the Barn can help. You might try posting on the HAMB as well, a lot of painters over there.

And welcome to the Ford Barn!

Rick Goddard · 10-11-2018, 06:54 PM

Thanks. I just posted the question on H.A.M.B.

Willit Stop · 10-11-2018, 07:27 PM

Just about any automotive paint store can computer match the color.You'll have to take a panel or the vehicle to them.

rbone · 10-11-2018, 07:51 PM

Agree with Willit Stop. A couple of years ago, the generator mount bolt broke on my '34 which is painted Dearborn Blue. The fan broke and poked a hole in the right side of my hood. I took the damaged hood and had the auto paint store match the color. Two years later, I still cannot tell the difference.

Rick Goddard · 10-11-2018, 09:58 PM

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I had my auto paint supplier "shoot" the paint but his computer will only give the formula for modern urethane paints. I'm hoping to blend the repair areas and I'm told that requires lacquer over lacquer. I'm told I'll have to repaint the whole car if I use modern paint. I also fear my paint color won't be an exact Dearborn Blue and therefore won't match even if I can find the lacquer formula.
I'm hoping to buy a pint and see if it matches rather then painting the whole car.

Rick Goddard · 10-12-2018, 09:22 AM

I may have to paint the whole car. Does anyone have a the acrylic urethane Dearborn Blue formula. I have reservations about my paint color accuracy and would prefer not to duplicate if I can get a good formula. My supplier has no record of Dearborn Blue.

rockfla · 10-12-2018, 01:41 PM

I think this the place my dad had some 1930's color combo's made up for us...I think there is a guy that goes by Jimmy "Chips".....http://www.autocolorlibrary.com/ Maybe other barner's familiar with them can add or subtract.

keith oh · 10-12-2018, 02:01 PM

Dearborn Blue was a 1935 dark blue. I think the next couple of years the dark blue was called washington blue not quite as dark. I sent you the formula my supplier gave me for Dearborn Blue.

Rick Goddard · 10-12-2018, 09:02 PM

Dearborn Blue started in 1934, code M-1723.
Keith, I got your formula. I assume its for acrylic urethane. Thank you. The last sources for lacquer appear to be gone.

keith oh · 10-12-2018, 09:50 PM

It is for acrylic enamel with hardner.

Tinker · 10-12-2018, 11:38 PM

This is off a ppg paint chip I'm guessing from the 80s? Don't know.

You might be able to get it decoded from a ppg rep.

Please let me know if you find anything out from it. Best of luck!

Tinker · 10-12-2018, 11:53 PM

Just more picts of the chip chart for reference. Guess I could have these chips matched if ppg wanted to scan them.

Tinker · 10-13-2018, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Goddard

I had my auto paint supplier "shoot" the paint but his computer will only give the formula for modern urethane paints. I'm hoping to blend the repair areas and I'm told that requires lacquer over lacquer. I'm told I'll have to repaint the whole car if I use modern paint. I also fear my paint color won't be an exact Dearborn Blue and therefore won't match even if I can find the lacquer formula.
I'm hoping to buy a pint and see if it matches rather then painting the whole car.

DAL: code is for lacquer (nitrocellulose). Some on the chart I posted shows DQE colors also: enamel color.

Enamel over lacquer will peal. Sealing with epoxy primer will last longer but you can't fade that.

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Rick Goddard · 10-15-2018, 09:34 AM

Thank you Tinker

Rick Goddard · 10-15-2018, 10:44 AM

rockfla, that paint supply site appears to be all encompassing; any car any year in any color in enamel, urethane or lacquer. I ordered a quart of lacquer to see how good the match is. They are in California and he asked if I was in California as if they're the only state where it isn't illegal. Thanks, I'll post the results.

rockfla · 10-15-2018, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Goddard

rockfla, that paint supply site appears to be all encompassing; any car any year in any color in enamel, urethane or lacquer. I ordered a quart of lacquer to see how good the match is. They are in California and he asked if I was in California as if they're the only state where it isn't illegal. Thanks, I'll post the results.

Was that "Jimmy Chip's"???

dave collette · 10-15-2018, 07:20 PM

I have PPG formula for dearborn blue in acrylic urethane ( Concept) I painted my 1935 roadster with it an it is a beautiful color. Do you want me to email it to you? Dave Collette

GoCatGo · 10-16-2018, 08:57 AM

Hey Dave, could you post the PPG formula here? I would love to have it as well.
Thanks

JM 35 Sedan · 10-16-2018, 02:45 PM

Dave, I would also like to get the PPG formula for Dearborn Blue. You could email of pm that to me. Thank you, John

10-11-2018, 12:42 PM	#1
Rick Goddard Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sherborn, MA Posts: 8	1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula I need paint repairs on my '34. Hopefully it's a true Dearborn blue. I'm hoping to blend it as the repairs aren't near shadow lines. its lacquer so I need the formula / toner numbers and quantities for acrylic lacquer. As I live in Massachusetts, I also need an out of state mail order supplier. Besides help, I welcome advice.

10-11-2018, 02:25 PM	#2
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula Any color is going to be very difficult to match and I believe the formulas are not easy to come by as well. Maybe someone here on the Barn can help. You might try posting on the HAMB as well, a lot of painters over there. And welcome to the Ford Barn!

10-11-2018, 06:54 PM	#3
Rick Goddard Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sherborn, MA Posts: 8	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula Thanks. I just posted the question on H.A.M.B.

10-11-2018, 07:27 PM	#4
Willit Stop Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Eureka Calif. Posts: 968	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula Just about any automotive paint store can computer match the color.You'll have to take a panel or the vehicle to them.

10-11-2018, 07:51 PM	#5
rbone Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Frisco, TX Posts: 95	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula Agree with Willit Stop. A couple of years ago, the generator mount bolt broke on my '34 which is painted Dearborn Blue. The fan broke and poked a hole in the right side of my hood. I took the damaged hood and had the auto paint store match the color. Two years later, I still cannot tell the difference.

10-11-2018, 09:58 PM	#6
Rick Goddard Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sherborn, MA Posts: 8	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I had my auto paint supplier "shoot" the paint but his computer will only give the formula for modern urethane paints. I'm hoping to blend the repair areas and I'm told that requires lacquer over lacquer. I'm told I'll have to repaint the whole car if I use modern paint. I also fear my paint color won't be an exact Dearborn Blue and therefore won't match even if I can find the lacquer formula. I'm hoping to buy a pint and see if it matches rather then painting the whole car.

10-12-2018, 09:22 AM	#7
Rick Goddard Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sherborn, MA Posts: 8	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula I may have to paint the whole car. Does anyone have a the acrylic urethane Dearborn Blue formula. I have reservations about my paint color accuracy and would prefer not to duplicate if I can get a good formula. My supplier has no record of Dearborn Blue.

10-12-2018, 01:41 PM	#8
rockfla Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 3,946	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula I think this the place my dad had some 1930's color combo's made up for us...I think there is a guy that goes by Jimmy "Chips".....http://www.autocolorlibrary.com/ Maybe other barner's familiar with them can add or subtract.

10-12-2018, 02:01 PM	#9
keith oh Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Millersport, central ohio Posts: 668	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula Dearborn Blue was a 1935 dark blue. I think the next couple of years the dark blue was called washington blue not quite as dark. I sent you the formula my supplier gave me for Dearborn Blue.

10-12-2018, 09:02 PM	#10
Rick Goddard Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sherborn, MA Posts: 8	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula Dearborn Blue started in 1934, code M-1723. Keith, I got your formula. I assume its for acrylic urethane. Thank you. The last sources for lacquer appear to be gone.

10-12-2018, 09:50 PM	#11
keith oh Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Millersport, central ohio Posts: 668	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula It is for acrylic enamel with hardner.

10-15-2018, 09:34 AM	#15
Rick Goddard Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sherborn, MA Posts: 8	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula Thank you Tinker

10-15-2018, 10:44 AM	#16
Rick Goddard Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sherborn, MA Posts: 8	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula rockfla, that paint supply site appears to be all encompassing; any car any year in any color in enamel, urethane or lacquer. I ordered a quart of lacquer to see how good the match is. They are in California and he asked if I was in California as if they're the only state where it isn't illegal. Thanks, I'll post the results.

10-15-2018, 07:20 PM	#18
dave collette Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portersville Pa. Posts: 173	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula I have PPG formula for dearborn blue in acrylic urethane ( Concept) I painted my 1935 roadster with it an it is a beautiful color. Do you want me to email it to you? Dave Collette

10-16-2018, 08:57 AM	#19
GoCatGo Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wellington, OH Posts: 55	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula Hey Dave, could you post the PPG formula here? I would love to have it as well. Thanks

10-16-2018, 02:45 PM	#20
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: 1934 Dearborn Blue paint formula Dave, I would also like to get the PPG formula for Dearborn Blue. You could email of pm that to me. Thank you, John __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein*

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