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[ronn]

No, we are not consistent. Depends on your state.


some states require almost nothing and others want everything. Best states to be in are those wo an inspection.


not much different then living in any of the countries in Europe. Every country has diff laws.

[ericr]

Originally Posted by Synchro909

Hmmm, seems the "United States" are not very consistent!
I know many over there consider this country to be solialist but we are far more consistent. Once registered in one state, easy in any other.
It's all acedemic becasue I will never need to put a car on the road over there and most likely none of you will need to do it here. Each visit I make to the US reminds me that our two countries are nearly the same but at the same time, very different

I believe you guys have a much smaller population than the US, I think we are many times larger. With no two regions that think alike.

[Terry, NJ]

It's an "evolved system" That means it's not the same as it was when it started. The idea was a title to a car like a deed to a house or property. It proved ownership! Now, Transferring titles has become a money maker for the state governments. Add to that the sales tax that collected at transfer and you have some pretty heavy cash revenue for the state govt. One question the gets asked a lot, is why do they collect the sales tax at every sale. Maybe once, when the car is new, but why at every successive sale? The whole system shows a lot of institutional corruption at every turn. In Pennsylvania it's worse, we have only private agents and they have pretty much a free hand to charge what they want, and they do! The only way around this is to go to the main MVA in Harrisburg, but that's over a hundred miles away.
Terry

Originally Posted by Synchro909

I don't begin to understand the concept of a title for a car (we don't have them) but from what I've read here, some states over there don't issue titles for cars over a certain age. How would somebody from one of those states go if they owned such a car and moved to a state that does have titles for them? Is it possible to get this car registered in a state with no titles, then transfer it to your home state? Maybe create a bill of sale to help?
I'm only taking wild guesses here because I can't fathom such a (what seems to me) crazy system.


FWIW, If a car was involved in an accident here, the insuranced company assessors can write it off as a total loss or as a "Repairable Writeoff". The latter can be repaired and so long as it passes inspection, can be put back on the road.

[Terry, NJ]

Originally Posted by Synchro909

Hmmm, seems the "United States" are not very consistent!
I know many over there consider this country to be solialist but we are far more consistent. Once registered in one state, easy in any other.
It's all acedemic becasue I will never need to put a car on the road over there and most likely none of you will need to do it here. Each visit I make to the US reminds me that our two countries are nearly the same but at the same time, very different

Contrary to popular thinking, We are not one country, we are 50 separate countries. Each one with it's own laws and methods. By our Constitution and Bill of Rights the federal Govt is precluded from making laws on certain levels. Something it does all the time. The 9th and 10th amendments are supposed to prevent this , but since govt seems not to have to follow it's own rules, it gets away with a lot of things! Oh well, That's what the Second Amendment is for.
Terry

[Tinbasher]

Wow, What a lot of chasing around. In Ontario you fill out a form for the vehicle information, get a appraisal for value and fill a affidavit from a Lawyer hand it in and they fill out the ownership for you. Pay the taxes on the value and away you go. A little trickier with a Hot Rod because you need a VIN.

JP

[Synchro909]

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Originally Posted by ericr

I believe you guys have a much smaller population than the US, I think we are many times larger. With no two regions that think alike.

Same size as your lower 48 with about one fifteenth or sixteenth the number of people.
There are certain responsibilitiues that fall to the Federal Government and others to the states. For example, only the Federal Government can raise a tax. They are also solely responsible for defense. The states handle things like car registration and land titles, health and education. One of the most annoying things I have found when travelling over there is when buying something. There is the price, then there is a local tax and a state tax and maybe more, plus (in many cases) a tip. By law here, the advertised price is what you pay. NO EXTRAS!
IMO, Our two political/legal sytsems are like us - very similar and nothing like the same! Maybe it's because I grew up here and understand the place better but I think there is greater uniformity accross the length and breadth Australia than I have seen in the US. Whether that is good or bad, I haven't decided.

[Synchro909]

At what stage does a car cease to be a car? As I remove parts, it first becomes undrivable but still a title is needed. From then on, it is only a pile of parts (IMO) but I am aware that even that requires a title. Does a bare chassis require a chassis or must it have the two axles and four wheels to need that? Maybe an engine - how about a transmission - steering anyone? Taken to the extreme, do I need a title if I have four wheels only?
This seems such a complex and confusing system. Guess you have to have been brought up with it.

[ronn]

its all as complex as you make it- many here make it extremely complex, for lack of understanding..................


I have no problem titling anything. I live in NJ and NY and find it pretty easy.

[ericr]

Originally Posted by Synchro909

Same size as your lower 48 with about one fifteenth or sixteenth the number of people.
There are certain responsibilitiues that fall to the Federal Government and others to the states. For example, only the Federal Government can raise a tax. They are also solely responsible for defense. The states handle things like car registration and land titles, health and education. One of the most annoying things I have found when travelling over there is when buying something. There is the price, then there is a local tax and a state tax and maybe more, plus (in many cases) a tip. By law here, the advertised price is what you pay. NO EXTRAS!
IMO, Our two political/legal sytsems are like us - very similar and nothing like the same! Maybe it's because I grew up here and understand the place better but I think there is greater uniformity accross the length and breadth Australia than I have seen in the US. Whether that is good or bad, I haven't decided.

oh yes, that obscurity about final sales price is a very common complaint to visitors to the US from Europe

[77Birdman]

Originally Posted by Dick Steinkamp

No problem titling a car brought into a title state from a non title state.


This is done all the time. There are several companies that specialize in this. You "sell" your car to one of these companies, they register it in a non title state and "sell" it back to you. You then title it in your state.


Oh, we have PLENTY of other crazy systems that make even LESS sense!

I dont think its that easy in MD. Example: I buy a used car, I need to title it in my name. In order to do so, I need to present the current title (along with a bill of sale) with the back signed in the proper place from the immediate past owner (seller). MD takes this title (regardless of which state it is from) and converts it to a MD title in my name. IF there is NO previous title they will not issue a new one. I am currently having title problems on a GOOD title, problem needs to be resolved by previous issuing state (Maine) which does not keep records for older cars. MD say's im SOL.

[ronn]

Birdman, you either have a good Maine title or you dont. no grey areas here.

[77Birdman]

I have a 'semi good' Maryland title. Title was transferred legally by the state (MD) to me, however there is a discrepancy in the vin. There is a letter where a number should be, and a number where a letter should be. I presented evidence at the time of issuance showing how the mistake was made and how it cant be any other way, the girl at the dmv almost made the corrections herself, then she thought twice and asked her supervisor who stepped in. At that time she said the original issuing state had to make the corrections, which happens to be Maine. When I contacted Maine dmv they said they have no records for older cars and they could not help me.

[ronn]

and the discrepancy should just be left alone. it is a human error and you have a good title.


this is where I feel people take things too far. no disrespect meant Birdman.


I have heard guys go bonkers because their coupe title doesnt say "3 window".......


they never did.


sometimes a roadster title just says 2 drs. guess what? a roadster has 2 drs......

[Ranchero50]

Originally Posted by Synchro909

Hmmm, seems the "United States" are not very consistent!
I know many over there consider this country to be solialist but we are far more consistent. Once registered in one state, easy in any other.
It's all acedemic becasue I will never need to put a car on the road over there and most likely none of you will need to do it here. Each visit I make to the US reminds me that our two countries are nearly the same but at the same time, very different

It's all about a state's right to tax it's citizens. The federal government adds another layer for the whole US, the auto safety laws that passed in '67 are a good example. A while back the large semi's had different tags for each state they ran in and the drivers could have multiple licenses. The federal department of transportation got involved and "simplified" the process on a national level because those vehicles were used mostly for interstate transport. Cars are still used mostly for intrastate transport so the individual states control them.

Per the pieces to cars process in MD supposedly I can schedule and take my finished project to the central motor vehicle administration site and the MD state police will inspect and certify it as well as apply a state issued VIN plate.

[77Birdman]

And my humblest apologies to the op for getting off of subject, but as strict as Maryland is with the DMV, amongst many other things, there is no inspection requirement for getting tags for an antique car. Only requirement is that you have insurance. Oddly enough when I applied for YOM tags, THEY had to be inspected (to make sure they were still reflective and not a duplicate number). Tags inspected-Yes, car inspected-No!!!

[Terry, NJ]

Originally Posted by Synchro909

Hmmm, seems the "United States" are not very consistent!
I know many over there consider this country to be solialist but we are far more consistent. Once registered in one state, easy in any other.
It's all acedemic becasue I will never need to put a car on the road over there and most likely none of you will need to do it here. Each visit I make to the US reminds me that our two countries are nearly the same but at the same time, very different

Consistency, conformity, uniformity, and sameness are the soul of socialism. This allows big governments to get bigger and stay bigger. I don't want to live in a country where the trains run on time!
Terry

[Terry, NJ]

Originally Posted by ronn

its all as complex as you make it- many here make it extremely complex, for lack of understanding..................


I have no problem titling anything. I live in NJ and NY and find it pretty easy.

Glad to hear you have these special titling talents I'd wish I knew that when I had a 56 Packard without a title. I finally had to sell it fora song because the lost title process was just too daunting. Now I have a 14' aluminum Mirro-craft boat Id like to title in Pa. Maybe we could get it through NJ , then do a transfer to Pa?
Terry