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bigdawg · 07-19-2017, 05:07 PM

How accurate is the NADA valuations as compared to the current private buying market ? I'm in the negotiation stage for a 1941 pickup. And need to find a baseline.
Any advice is welcome and needed...thanks

1941 Ford 1GC

1/2 Ton Pickup

Values

Original
MSRP Base Price $619

Low
Retail $8,400

Average
Retail $12,150

High
Retail $23,200100_2824.jpg

JSeery · 07-19-2017, 05:19 PM

Condition is EVERYTHING for pricing! Can you post any photos?

41PICUP · 07-19-2017, 05:27 PM

Is the 41 restored, a hot rod, basket case. Flat head powered, rust free? Need more info. I paid $8500 for mine in 2002 and it needed a lot.

bigdawg · 07-19-2017, 05:31 PM

Currently waiting on the inspector to look at the truck, and contact me. I am in Fl. the truck is in Ohio. I have not seen this truck in many years. So I'm not sure what I'm dealing with as of yet. This truck belonged to my uncle before his passing. At one time it was a nice running and driving truck with fresh paint. Flathead v8. Will post pics when they are sent.

Dave Castle · 07-19-2017, 10:21 PM

Just paid 7250 for this.

Roger/Sacramento · 07-19-2017, 10:55 PM

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I paid $3500 for mine ten years ago. It was in parts and the frame was ready for assembly. The sheet metal needed a lot of work but doable. No motor or tranny. Rearend included. I street rodded it so many original parts were not used.

Veeder · 07-20-2017, 07:46 AM

I'm looking for a 39 40 41pickup I can play with

alanwoodieman · 07-20-2017, 08:09 AM

1GC is a 6 cylinder engine, so it has been changed to a V8, I have bought and sold three 40/41 pickups in the last two years. the 41's were 4 cylinder trucks, one semi restored-$18,500 one running fair body $10,500.00 and a 40 project truck from ca, hardly any rust but not running and partially disassembled $7,500. so maybe this gives you an idea

alanwoodieman · 07-20-2017, 08:10 AM

forgot to add, I know where a 2/3 done restoration, 40 truck can be bought for $30,000 and I know the restorer and it is worth the money. wish I had the cash/time to do it.

TJ · 07-20-2017, 09:33 AM

The most important part is the condition of the sheetmetal. Especially the bed and rear fenders. NADA is a "guide". Your best bet is to inspect it yourself unless you can trust the person who will look at it for you. That person should be experienced in looking at Ford V-8s, especially pickups.

Anteek29 · 07-20-2017, 06:24 PM

I recently purchased a '41 P-U, full stock restoration (239 V8) for $25K.

Jeff/Illinois · 07-20-2017, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteek29

I recently purchased a '41 P-U, full stock restoration (239 V8) for $25K.

That was a good price for a '41 pickup that nice. I've seen good '40-'41's going in the mid 30's quite often.

1oldtimer · 07-21-2017, 05:07 PM

Trucks are HOT right now (here in so cal at least). Price goes up as year goes down, so I don't think the Nada is going to be correct.

I didn't want to post this here since it's not stock, but I just bought this for 13k and I do believe it was as close as I could come to a steal

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https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...#post-11996237

dwick01 · 07-22-2017, 05:59 AM

You did well Oldtimer.

oldskool · 07-22-2017, 07:11 AM

just bought this 1940 rust free all original henry steel body off resto everything new or rebuilt,1952 ford engine 22,900

bigdawg · 07-26-2017, 01:24 PM

ok, so pictures have been posted. please tell me what you think...

V8COOPMAN · 07-26-2017, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdawg

ok, so pictures have been posted. please tell me what you think...

'dawg......Whew, those pics show a lot of scary stuff. The type of wiring "expertise" shown in the under-dash shot indicates a rat's nest of electrical problems, if not a warning to have the local fire department number on speed-dial! The "ad-on" open-drive rear end "hack-job" leaves an awful lot to be desired. You'd have to ask "WHY" he replaced the original rear in the first place. The torched rear spring ends certainly indicates the level of understanding that the builder has about "safe practices". The half-assed radius rods are trash, along with the awful geometry designed into his "installation". The front spring is almost flat, and surely worn-out, as the rest of the front axle parts likely are, too. UNDERNEATH that truck is a total waste. From 50 feet, the sheet metal appears to be pretty close to a '41 pick-up, but have you run a magnet across all of that "pretty, painted" sheet metal? You may be in for some surprises. Snazzy paint jobs can cover many sins. And that fancy seat installation.......Heaven help ya if you ever crash into something solid....that seat is POORLY mounted! I would pass on THAT truck for any kind of serious money, and especially if you don't intend to tear it apart and rebuilt EVERYTHING from scratch. Seriously, you've gotta wonder WHY the guy has that truck for sale in the first place. He was obviously way over his head as a builder. DD

Mart · 07-26-2017, 03:48 PM

Hard to say. There are some areas of that truck that are decidedly substandard. Front spring bushes. Rear axle installation. Seat installation. Wiring. Condition of tyres. (flat).

The paint looks ok, but what is it covering?

It depends how much they want for it.

I'm guessing it's not cheap because superficially it looks very nice.

An experienced builder could turn it around. An experienced builder with a stockpile of parts like the correct rear axle and spring, and doubtless countless other parts.

But for an inexperienced builder it would turn into a nightmare very quickly.

Mart.

V8COOPMAN · 07-26-2017, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart

Hard to say. There are some areas of that truck that are decidedly substandard. Front spring bushes. Rear axle installation. Seat installation. Wiring. Condition of tyres. (flat).

The paint looks ok, but what is it covering?

It depends how much they want for it.

I'm guessing it's not cheap because superficially it looks very nice.

An experienced builder could turn it around. An experienced builder with a stockpile of parts like the correct rear axle and spring, and doubtless countless other parts.

But for an inexperienced builder it would turn into a nightmare very quickly.

Mart.

Mart.........You were much kinder than I was..........but said essentially the same thing. Nevertheless, I'd be very reluctant to get involved with that truck.

By the way Mart, you and I seem to have exactly the same number of posts! DD

Kube · 07-26-2017, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldskool

just bought this 1940 rust free all original henry steel body off resto everything new or rebuilt,1952 ford engine 22,900

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07-19-2017, 05:19 PM	#2
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup Condition is EVERYTHING for pricing! Can you post any photos?

07-19-2017, 05:27 PM	#3
41PICUP Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: El Cerrito CA Posts: 338	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup Is the 41 restored, a hot rod, basket case. Flat head powered, rust free? Need more info. I paid $8500 for mine in 2002 and it needed a lot.

07-19-2017, 05:31 PM	#4
bigdawg Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 7	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup Currently waiting on the inspector to look at the truck, and contact me. I am in Fl. the truck is in Ohio. I have not seen this truck in many years. So I'm not sure what I'm dealing with as of yet. This truck belonged to my uncle before his passing. At one time it was a nice running and driving truck with fresh paint. Flathead v8. Will post pics when they are sent. Last edited by bigdawg; 07-19-2017 at 05:34 PM. Reason: added info

07-19-2017, 10:55 PM	#6
Roger/Sacramento Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: PRINEVILLE, OR. Posts: 490	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I paid $3500 for mine ten years ago. It was in parts and the frame was ready for assembly. The sheet metal needed a lot of work but doable. No motor or tranny. Rearend included. I street rodded it so many original parts were not used. __________________ KIM KARDASHIAN ISN'T FLAT, BUT MY MOTOR IS..... http://s818.photobucket.com/home/roglehr/index

07-20-2017, 07:46 AM	#7
Veeder Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: CT Posts: 394	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup I'm looking for a 39 40 41pickup I can play with

07-20-2017, 08:09 AM	#8
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 2,963	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup 1GC is a 6 cylinder engine, so it has been changed to a V8, I have bought and sold three 40/41 pickups in the last two years. the 41's were 4 cylinder trucks, one semi restored-$18,500 one running fair body $10,500.00 and a 40 project truck from ca, hardly any rust but not running and partially disassembled $7,500. so maybe this gives you an idea

07-20-2017, 08:10 AM	#9
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 2,963	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup forgot to add, I know where a 2/3 done restoration, 40 truck can be bought for $30,000 and I know the restorer and it is worth the money. wish I had the cash/time to do it.

07-20-2017, 09:33 AM	#10
TJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa,California Posts: 6,029	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup The most important part is the condition of the sheetmetal. Especially the bed and rear fenders. NADA is a "guide". Your best bet is to inspect it yourself unless you can trust the person who will look at it for you. That person should be experienced in looking at Ford V-8s, especially pickups.

07-21-2017, 05:07 PM	#13
1oldtimer Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Orange County, Ca. Posts: 685	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup Trucks are HOT right now (here in so cal at least). Price goes up as year goes down, so I don't think the Nada is going to be correct. I didn't want to post this here since it's not stock, but I just bought this for 13k and I do believe it was as close as I could come to a steal . https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...#post-11996237 Last edited by 1oldtimer; 07-22-2017 at 01:17 AM.

07-22-2017, 05:59 AM	#14
dwick01 Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Wellington, Kansas Posts: 444	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup You did well Oldtimer.

07-26-2017, 01:24 PM	#16
bigdawg Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 7	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup ok, so pictures have been posted. please tell me what you think...

07-26-2017, 03:48 PM	#18
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,745	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup Hard to say. There are some areas of that truck that are decidedly substandard. Front spring bushes. Rear axle installation. Seat installation. Wiring. Condition of tyres. (flat). The paint looks ok, but what is it covering? It depends how much they want for it. I'm guessing it's not cheap because superficially it looks very nice. An experienced builder could turn it around. An experienced builder with a stockpile of parts like the correct rear axle and spring, and doubtless countless other parts. But for an inexperienced builder it would turn into a nightmare very quickly. Mart.