Fender braces

[Birdst]

Anybody have a diagram or picture of front and back fenders where braces are suppose to go.
Thanks

[TJ]

Do you have the braces?

[Brian]

What model car?

[Zeke3]

I have a 1937 car and the fender braces that year mounted from the frame behind each wheel to a tab on the fender just behind the wheel opening. One bolt at the frame and one at the fender. I am not familiar whether the 1938 braces are similar to the 1937 of different.

[Birdst]

1938 coupe.
Bought braces from C&G.
Picture would real help.

[Zeke3]

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Interesting, the 48-16067 and 48-16068 braces do not show up in either my June, 1937 Chassis Parts List or the "Green Bible" parts book. They look like the braces that attach to the gusset that is in front of the front crossmember. They attach between the gusset and the inner front fender panel, in front of the radiator.

78-16094 is the front fender brace that attaches from a large hole in the side of the frame behind the front wheel, approximately 1/2" diameter, to the tab on the lower lip of the front fender, behind the front wheel.

78-16341 is the rear fender brace that attaches from a large hole in the side of the frame behind the rear wheel, approximately 1/2" diameter, to the tab on the lower lip of the rear fender, behind the rear wheel.

My car is all apart and I will have to assemble the parts to show you what I am trying to describe. Your fenders may be missing the tabs for attaching the braces, I have had a couple like that. I recently repaired a rear fender to add the tab back on. Luckily I had a fender to copy.

[Birdst]

Thanks I might have to make something that works. I was just hoping for picture you know what they say it's worth a thousand words. LOL

[Will D]

Hope these help. From a Fordor not a coupe but should give you a better visual idea. Back tires are off so was able to get a clear shot but front tires are on blocks and chalked so wasn't able to move the tire outta the way.

[Birdst]

Thanks Will D that helps me.
Still not sure about the short braces they sent me

[Will D]

On c&g website it says 48-16068/67 Supports the large front fender brace and bolts to the front crossmemeber.

The only other brackets on my front fender are in pics attached. One on wheel side which shares a bolt with one on engine side which looks similar to what c&g has pictured. The shared bolt has red arrow pointing at it. Doesn't quite correspond with C&G description as mine goes to the frame not the cross member but that could just be difference from Fordor to coupe?

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by Zeke3

Interesting, the 48-16067 and 48-16068 braces do not show up in either my June, 1937 Chassis Parts List or the "Green Bible" parts book.

Remember that the "48-" prefix indicates a 1935 Ford "FIRST use" part. DD

[Zeke3]

Thanks DD for reminding me of that detail.

[Will D]

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

Remember that the "48-" prefix indicates a 1935 Ford "FIRST use" part. DD

Interesting fact. Does this also mean it may not carry on to later years?

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by Will D

Interesting fact. Does this also mean it may not carry on to later years?

Depends on the part. Many 1935 parts ("48A-" prefix) were used on 1936 cars. Generally, 1936 "first use" parts have a "68A-" prefix. A good example of overlap....the front I-beam axle on a '36 Ford should go by the number "40A-3010". The "40A-" represents a first-use 1933 Ford part. But, the axles stayed the same 1933 THROUGH 1936. So, a replacement axle for a '34, '35 or '36 Ford would be a "40A-3010"......not a "68A-3010". Clear as mud, huh? Good questions, though! It really helps ya to learn the basics of the Ford numbering system, especially those prefixes. By the way, that "A-" indicates use of a part on a "PASSENGER CAR and COMMERCIAL vehicle (commercial vehicle is a pick-up and a sedan delivery). DD

[Will D]

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

Depends on the part. Many 1935 parts ("48A-" prefix) were used on 1936 cars. Generally, 1936 "first use" parts have a "68A-" prefix. A good example of overlap....the front I-beam axle on a '36 Ford should go by the number "40A-3010". The "40A-" represents a first-use 1933 Ford part. But, the axles stayed the same 1933 THROUGH 1936. So, a replacement axle for a '34, '35 or '36 Ford would be a "40A-3010"......not a "68A-3010". Clear as mud, huh? Good questions, though! It really helps ya to learn the basics of the Ford numbering system, especially those prefixes. By the way, that "A-" indicates use of a part on a "PASSENGER CAR and COMMERCIAL vehicle (commercial vehicle is a pick-up and a sedan delivery). DD

Thank you V8COOPMAN for the learning. Sure aids in part interchangeability between years.

[Birdst]

Thanks everyone I think I got it now.