T engine hooked to other tranny?

[nosoup4u]

Thinking of building a replica of another car, of which none are known to exist. A T engine would be about the right size, horsepower and speed, but the other car had a more or less standard clutch and transmission. Has anyone ever seen a T engine with a standard clutch and tranny hooked to it?

[rotorwrench]

The T engine shares a lot with the transmission side. With some of the oiling coming from the flywheel area, it's really not very practical to disturb that. Just about anything can be done if a person puts enough effort into it but whether it is worth the effort or not is a big question. Most folks just stick with the planetary & band type set up and just add on an extra gearbox or a Ruckstell rear axle or both.

[nosoup4u]

Never thought of that. Might be better to look for something out of an old dodge or something.

[Jack Innes]

A Model A has the setup you are looking for & lots of parts are available.

[nosoup4u]

Originally Posted by Jack Innes

A Model A has the setup you are looking for & lots of parts are available.

I have an old A engine but not a T to compare it to. How much bigger physically is an A engine?

[rotorwrench]

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The A engine isn't all that much larger. The bore is about 1/8" larger and the stroke is 1/4" larger. 177 CID for the T and 200 CID for the A. The A can be adapted for transmissions more easily and has a better distributor set up plus a fairly decent oil pump.

Ford even used the little 120 CID 9N tractor 4-cylinder flathead motor in 1941 pickups but that didn't go over too well. They only have a little more HP than the model T but they are smaller too.

4-banger motors from Chevrolet are harder to find now days. A lot of the old wood body cars didn't survive the WWII scrap drives. Dodge brothers engines are also likely not as easy to find.

[redmodelt]

There was at least one company that made a unit that closed in the pan area so it was separate from the flywheel and provide a 3 speed transmission in place of the planetary. Other examples are when used as a stationary power plant, they would come with a pan and clutch assembly, marine application, the planetary was replaced with a clutch and sliding gear transmission. Some of the bigger names in the Model T racing cars built their own units, not cheap and requires time and money. Once you close in the rear of the engine, you do not have to run the magnets, flywheel and coils in oil. For cost I would go with the Model A, but for cool maybe 26-28 Chevrolet with it's over head valves.

[Dodge]

Just go with the Model A, you will be much happier, for that matter used the rest of the
running gear also.

[40 Deluxe]

There s also the flathead four "Jeep" engine, produced by both Ford and Willys.

[jimvette59]

There is a 41 ford pick up that had a four cylinder and a transmission that would probably hookup easily. It was a real slug. JMHO

[40 Deluxe]

Originally Posted by jimvette59

There is a 41 ford pick up that had a four cylinder and a transmission that would probably hookup easily. It was a real slug. JMHO

That 4 cyl. was actually the 9N tractor engine. It was sort of half a 239 flathead V8, using the same pistons, valve assemblies, lifters and a V8 60 starter.
It was like having the whole pickup but only half an engine (119.5 cu. in.). I think it was rated at 40 HP.

[nhusa]

A lot of people use the 4 cyl Pinto motor in there replicas.

[rotorwrench]

This is a link to a highly modified T engine that has had a BB truck clutch cover grafted on with a saginaw transmission adapted to it. It goes to show what can be done if you spend enough time and money on one. It looks more like an Offy engine than a T.
http://www.fordfarm.net/Gallivan.html