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Hugh in NC · 03-22-2011, 01:34 PM

Will the side plate cover on a 1940 car transmission come off while the transmission is in the car?

Prior to 1968, a previous owner welded the shift levers to the shafts. Of course, it leaks gear oil and there is no easy way to undo the welds to get the seals replaced. I will probably have to get a complete replacement assembly but I don't want to pull the transmission. Is this possible and where is a good source for the side plate?

Thanks,
Hugh

oldskool · 03-22-2011, 01:50 PM

yes it just unbolts,drain oil first ,side covers are the same 1940-48

OLD...BILL · 03-22-2011, 02:03 PM

HUGH: I have two, one is complete and looks good ?? the other is all apart, your welcome to both, you pay for the ride. ...As for taking off in the car?? you will need 2 to 3 inch of side room to clear the shift forks coming out ?? my e-mail is [email protected] and I am in California 95547.... OLD....BILL

JM 35 Sedan · 03-22-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OLD...BILL

HUGH: I have two, one is complete and looks good ?? the other is all apart, your welcome to both, you pay for the ride. ...As for taking off in the car?? you will need 2 to 3 inch of side room to clear the shift forks coming out ?? my e-mail is [email protected] and I am in California 95547.... OLD....BILL

That's a really nice offer Old Bill!! I was going to tell Hugh that I have a 46-48 cover that I would part with but you beat me to the draw.

I'm thinking if someone welded on those shift arms the heat could have ruined the seals back then.

Hugh in NC · 03-22-2011, 02:22 PM

Thanks for the quick replies. Old Bill I have sent you an email.

Thanks, again.

Hugh

Mac VP · 03-23-2011, 07:34 AM

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The heat would DEFINITELY have ruined the old seals. Even if they had leather inserts rather than neoprene rubber, they would still have cooked. You are on the right track replacing the assembly. There are plenty of them around as some nice fellows have shown. You should replace the seals on the new housing. You'll also need the pins that hold the levers to the shafts, plus new gaskets. We have these in stock if you need them.

Hugh in NC · 03-23-2011, 11:56 AM

Mac VP

Thanks for the advice. I only want to do this once, so I will give you a call when I get the side plate from Old...Bill and get the parts ordered.

Thanks,
Hugh

Hugh in NC · 04-04-2011, 10:55 AM

Well, the side plate transplant went as smoothly as I suspected. A 10 minute out-of-the-car job turned into a 3 hour in-the-car job. There is barely enough room to get the side plate in and out. There is almost no room for fat fingers and ratchets. Thanks to Old..Bill for the side plate. Thanks to Mac Van Pelt for the new seals, gaskets, pins, and shift linkage bushings. Hope this cuts down on the grease on the garage floor.

Hugh

JM 35 Sedan · 04-04-2011, 02:19 PM

Hugh, with all those brothers to lend you a helping hand, you should be able to get these jobs done in a few minutes. The one sitting down needs to get up and start helping out or he is off the team!!

Hugh in NC · 04-04-2011, 03:41 PM

That's the problem, they all just stand or sit around doing nothing.

danny1940 · 04-04-2011, 05:28 PM

I love it when a plan comes together!

03-22-2011, 01:34 PM	#1
Hugh in NC Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: In my Recliner, Rockingham Posts: 78	1940 Transmission Question Will the side plate cover on a 1940 car transmission come off while the transmission is in the car? Prior to 1968, a previous owner welded the shift levers to the shafts. Of course, it leaks gear oil and there is no easy way to undo the welds to get the seals replaced. I will probably have to get a complete replacement assembly but I don't want to pull the transmission. Is this possible and where is a good source for the side plate? Thanks, Hugh

03-22-2011, 01:50 PM	#2
oldskool Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: shirley ny Posts: 992	Re: 1940 Transmission Question yes it just unbolts,drain oil first ,side covers are the same 1940-48

03-22-2011, 02:03 PM	#3
OLD...BILL Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northern California,coast Posts: 552	Re: 1940 Transmission Question HUGH: I have two, one is complete and looks good ?? the other is all apart, your welcome to both, you pay for the ride. ...As for taking off in the car?? you will need 2 to 3 inch of side room to clear the shift forks coming out ?? my e-mail is [email protected] and I am in California 95547.... OLD....BILL

03-22-2011, 02:22 PM	#5
Hugh in NC Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: In my Recliner, Rockingham Posts: 78	Re: 1940 Transmission Question Thanks for the quick replies. Old Bill I have sent you an email. Thanks, again. Hugh

03-23-2011, 07:34 AM	#6
Mac VP Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,361	Re: 1940 Transmission Question Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The heat would DEFINITELY have ruined the old seals. Even if they had leather inserts rather than neoprene rubber, they would still have cooked. You are on the right track replacing the assembly. There are plenty of them around as some nice fellows have shown. You should replace the seals on the new housing. You'll also need the pins that hold the levers to the shafts, plus new gaskets. We have these in stock if you need them. __________________ VANPELT SALES LLC Cincinnati, Ohio Office: 513-724-9486 www.vanpeltsales.com www.classictransmission.com

03-23-2011, 11:56 AM	#7
Hugh in NC Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: In my Recliner, Rockingham Posts: 78	Re: 1940 Transmission Question Mac VP Thanks for the advice. I only want to do this once, so I will give you a call when I get the side plate from Old...Bill and get the parts ordered. Thanks, Hugh

04-04-2011, 10:55 AM	#8
Hugh in NC Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: In my Recliner, Rockingham Posts: 78	Re: 1940 Transmission Question Well, the side plate transplant went as smoothly as I suspected. A 10 minute out-of-the-car job turned into a 3 hour in-the-car job. There is barely enough room to get the side plate in and out. There is almost no room for fat fingers and ratchets. Thanks to Old..Bill for the side plate. Thanks to Mac Van Pelt for the new seals, gaskets, pins, and shift linkage bushings. Hope this cuts down on the grease on the garage floor. Hugh

04-04-2011, 02:19 PM	#9
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: 1940 Transmission Question Hugh, with all those brothers to lend you a helping hand, you should be able to get these jobs done in a few minutes. The one sitting down needs to get up and start helping out or he is off the team!! __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein*

04-04-2011, 03:41 PM	#10
Hugh in NC Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: In my Recliner, Rockingham Posts: 78	Re: 1940 Transmission Question That's the problem, they all just stand or sit around doing nothing.

04-04-2011, 05:28 PM	#11
danny1940 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: West Chester,Pa Posts: 32	Re: 1940 Transmission Question I love it when a plan comes together!