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Old 09-09-2019, 09:25 PM   #81
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Wish I could say the same for the victims.
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Old 09-10-2019, 06:51 AM   #82
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Sad situation for sure . . .
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:13 AM   #83
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Try the Attorney General's office in Oregon, I did in Pa on a rip off and they went after them real quick and got my money back to the bank. The CC co should immediately put a hold on his account if they don't I would go after them until they did. Good Luck
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Old 09-10-2019, 05:10 PM   #84
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Anyone recognize the name(alias), “Gary Howard” ?
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Old 09-11-2019, 08:02 AM   #85
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I think I bought my first Pertronix conversion free m a guy out in the Midwest called Gary Howard. He sold stock parts, upgrades like the Pertronix, and good used parts. If memory serves me it was Nebraska,Oklahoma - even had a website. A shame if he he is the same guy and has fallen to this level .....
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Old 09-11-2019, 12:34 PM   #86
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Man, the name Gary Howard does sound real familiar.
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:34 PM   #87
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That practice is called stealing from Peter to pay Paul. Bernie Madoff made a living from it... well sorta. Madoff... hmmm it's in the name.
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Man, after reading that BBB report, this slime needs to be taking his daily showers right there next to ol' Bernie Madoff, with "Bubba" hanging-around to "ass-ist" frequently. DD
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:36 PM   #88
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Old 09-11-2019, 03:23 PM   #89
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Good point tubman, or maybe "Paul Bennett" is this Gary dude.
Nah Not possible. Probably getting satisfied because he lives close. Would not make a good G. Howard.

My thoughts align with The Ponzi scheme. Unfortunately I have encountered more than my share of sleazebag operators, ( Not aiming at any particular market ) during the course of my days on the streets.
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Old 09-12-2019, 09:19 AM   #90
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I had an 81A rebuilt at Flathead City about 4 years ago. I delivered the block and parts in person and was given a tour of their shop. There were three "silver haired" guys including Gary working that day and there were a lot of engine projects in various states throughout the shop. Everything looked organized, clean and professional. They had some high end "hot rod" flatheads as well as stock builds in process. He said there were about 30 engines ahead of mine, but because I had 95% of my parts they should be able to get it squeezed in sooner. Mine was completed in 3-4 weeks I think. Ilive about 3 hours drive from Grants Pass.
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Old 12-19-2019, 04:12 PM   #91
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Hate to have to say it, but I'm finally resolved to the fact that I'm going to have to take legal actions and file consumer complaints to help others avoid the same experience.
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Old 12-19-2019, 04:36 PM   #92
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I don't understand the "Hate to have to say it" part. But I looks like it's about time.
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Old 12-19-2019, 05:49 PM   #93
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Hate to have to say it, but I'm finally resolved to the fact that I'm going to have to take legal actions and file consumer complaints to help others avoid the same experience.
Best of luck - you've had more patience than I would!
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Just one more reminder that there are one hell of a bunch of scum-wads out there slimin'-around that have only one bad habit...…BREATHING! Wishing you mucho luck!! DD
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Old 03-24-2020, 08:21 AM   #95
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I waited 3 years for my engine. Many calls and more $$$ did nothing to help. Now I am going through this engine again as it fouls plugs on 2 cylinders and I am also changing the cam. I do not race this engine and the idle is poor driving in a parade or slowly and I am on the clutch all the time as idle is high to keep engine running smooth as possible. I would not recommend Flathead City to anyone wanting timely, economical and quality work done!
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:30 AM   #96
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A couple of these guys are now on Instagram. Problem is bad news doesn't trail them around like a web forum. I hope they aren't suckering new people with this new medium.
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That's probably why they're on there.
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Old 04-11-2020, 08:34 AM   #98
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Well I got a little of my money back but he still owes me my deposit - which is sizeable. I sensed bad news but people said he did great work and he had a great web site. I ignored my intuition, in 80 years it's the first tie I've been taken for a ride. A big ride when one's sole income is SocSecurity.
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Hey Paul - glad you got some of it back . . . sad to see you taken to the cleaners like a lot of other folks (dealing with this guy). I wish you luck on getting an engine done - if I can help you, drop me a PM. I just hate to see somebody like you get screwed and end up with nothing but a hole where you money was poured into . . .
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Old 04-11-2020, 11:12 AM   #100
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Obviously, Mr. Howard is a modern day horse thief.

He's lucky we aren't living in the 1800's with the justice system of the wild west.
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