Collision between a GAZ-A and a R-5 airplane

[Great Lakes Greg]

The car has an AA radiator.

[MikeK]

My guess- plane broke loose from tie-downs during a storm.

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by 31 Model A

Before my squadron was moved to the Langley, we too were ground based and we had the same incidents with wind, we thought by getting away from land that problem was over, not so Grasshopper, the wind name Maria created havoc on our birds. Here we are lined up for takeoff to bomb Tokyo before they bomb us at Pearl!!!!

Wait, huh? I didn't think we were using bi-wings as bombers in WWII?

Trainers, yes. Bombers, I didn't think so.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

"Maybe" we've been watchin' too many OLD MOVIES?
Bill Redeyes

[burner31]

Originally Posted by ronn

the criminal was trying to escape in the A (he just robbed a bank), fella in the plane headed him off at the pass and saved the day!

This is the story I'm going with.
But you left out the part where the tarp on the plane was used to keep the water out of the engine...from the bullet holes...from the shoot-out that ensued.

Stuff like that happens all the time.

[Herb Concord Ca]

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[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by Tim Ayers

Wait, huh? I didn't think we were using bi-wings as bombers in WWII?

Trainers, yes. Bombers, I didn't think so.

Have you ever read my book, The Secret War of Bullshit and Brilliance, a biography about yours truly and my exploits ???? My second book "I Slept with Mata-Hari" was a best seller!!! I use to feed her lines of bullshit intelligence which eventually lead to her being executed for spying.

[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

"Maybe" we've been watchin' too many OLD MOVIES?
Bill Redeyes

I was one of the stunt pilots and doubled for Gary Cooper in "Wings"

[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by DougVieyra

To 31 Model A - Post #15:

You must be REALLY old !

When the Lord said, "let there be light", I was the one who screwed in the light bulb, I was the side sink man at the Last Supper...I go waaay back!!!

[DougVieyra]

Originally Posted by Tim Ayers :
"Wait, huh? I didn't think we were using bi-wings as bombers in WWII?

Trainers, yes. Bombers, I didn't think so."
____________________

Ah, yes, that is true Tim. BUT, as the caption said (or implied/deduced) the photos of the Bi-planes on the Aircraft Carrier was taken BEFORE WW11 ! Or at least before Peal Harbor, which, for the U.S., WAS before WW11. And even though the U.S. and Germany did not use bi-planes for bombing during WW11, all other countries did in fact use bombers of various sorts and configurations to bomb enemy targets.

The main reason that Japan was inspired to bomb Pearl Harbor, was the use twelve months earlier, of bi-plane bombers of Britain's Royal Air Force, launched from an Aircraft Carrier, to bomb and destroy the main Italian battle fleet at Taranto, Italy - November 1940.

So yes, Tim, bi-wing bombers were used in WW11. If these Bi-Wing torpedo bombers, launched from an aircraft carrier, to sink the Italian Battle Ships had not occurred, then most likely Japan would not have seen the possibility of repeating the feat on the American naval base at Pearl Harbor, Dec. 7, '1941.

While obsolete by 1941 standards, the two-wing Bi-Plane, both fighters and bombers, saw plenty of action during WW11. The greatest battle ship of WW11 was the German ship BISMARK. It was sunk by Bi-Wing dive bombers launched from a British Aircraft Carrier.

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by 31 Model A

Have you ever read my book, The Secret War of Bullshit and Brilliance, a biography about yours truly and my exploits ???? My second book "I Slept with Mata-Hari" was a best seller!!! I use to feed her lines of bullshit intelligence which eventually lead to her being executed for spying.

Nice. Sounds like I've got some reading to this summer.

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by DougVieyra

Originally Posted by Tim Ayers :
"Wait, huh? I didn't think we were using bi-wings as bombers in WWII?

Trainers, yes. Bombers, I didn't think so."
____________________

Ah, yes, that is true Tim. BUT, as the caption said (or implied/deduced) the photos of the Bi-planes on the Aircraft Carrier was taken BEFORE WW11 ! Or at least before Peal Harbor, which, for the U.S., WAS before WW11. And even though the U.S. and Germany did not use bi-planes for bombing during WW11, all other countries did in fact use bombers of various sorts and configurations to bomb enemy targets.

The main reason that Japan was inspired to bomb Pearl Harbor, was the use twelve months earlier, of bi-plane bombers of Britain's Royal Air Force, launched from an Aircraft Carrier, to bomb and destroy the main Italian battle fleet at Taranto, Italy - November 1940.

So yes, Tim, bi-wing bombers were used in WW11. If these Bi-Wing torpedo bombers, launched from an aircraft carrier, to sink the Italian Battle Ships had not occurred, then most likely Japan would not have seen the possibility of repeating the feat on the American naval base at Pearl Harbor, Dec. 7, '1941.

While obsolete by 1941 standards, the two-wing Bi-Plane, both fighters and bombers, saw plenty of action during WW11. The greatest battle ship of WW11 was the German ship BISMARK. It was sunk by Bi-Wing dive bombers launched from a British Aircraft Carrier.

Yes, thanks for the clarification. Now that you mention it, I do recall bi-wings being used as low speed/low altitude torpedo planes.

[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by DougVieyra

. It was sunk by Bi-Wing dive bombers launched from a British Aircraft Carrier.

Actually, torpedo bombers in the case of the Bismarck, a torpedo from a Fairey Swordfish from the second attack that jammed the rudder of the Bismarck.

[DougVieyra]

Quite true 31 Model A.

As a side note, in reference to your noting that it was a "Fairey Swordfish" Bi-Plane that put the Bismark's rudder out of effective commission - it was a fleet of Fairely Swordfish Bi-planes that sunk the majority of the Italian Navy at Toranto in 1940.

One hellava plane that bi-wing !

- Doug, Fore-topman, main mast, HMS Royal (re-tired)

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Originally Posted by 31 Model A

I was one of the stunt pilots and doubled for Gary Cooper in "Wings"

WELL, our Old airport terminal, built by the W.P.A, was in an Indiana Jones film, with some OLD Bi-plane!
Bill Historian

[ronn]

Doug,
thx for the history lesson! had no idea biplanes were used that late.
so much BS on this thread, I dont know what to believe............................

time to get out my Matchbox cars and go play!

[CarlG]

Originally Posted by ronn

...time to get out my Matchbox cars and go play!

Matchbox made bi-planes also.

[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by ronn

Doug,
thx for the history lesson! had no idea biplanes were used that late.
so much BS on this thread, I dont know what to believe............................

!

It's all true...scout's honor!!!!! No fingers crossed behind my back!!!!

[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by CarlG

Matchbox made bi-planes also.

YIP!!!

[ursus]

Though off the Model-A subject, it should be noted that North Korea still maintains a fleet of combat-ready Antunov An-2 bi-planes: https://www.nknews.org/2014/09/the-a...able-aircraft/ The Antunov An-2 last saw wartime service in the Vietnam War where it was used by North Vietnam to haul freight and paratroopers. They weren't used for very long as they drank fuel like crazy and fuel was in short supply.