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Old 07-18-2022, 01:14 PM   #1
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Default ‘40 V8 stumbling when accelerating in 1st and 2nd

Good afternoon ………

I’ve not been on for awhile due all the damn work I’ve got here in northern Michigan. With that said……I’ve asked this question before, but still have a problem. I continue to have a stumbling problem when accelerating in first and second gear after driving for 10 to 15 miles. When cold it absolutely runs and idles perfect ! I’ve changed coils from Skip Haney……new IH200 condenser and had a new carb from Dennis Carpenter. The new carb ran great for about 5 months and it started to stumble.

When cruising at 50-55 mph it’s runs great !!

I even had Charlie NY rebuild the original ‘40 Carb, but that was very hard to start cold or hot. He’s been good enough to go through it again.

With all the talent here……..is there anything else someone can think of that I should be checking out ?

Thanks very much.

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Old 07-18-2022, 01:21 PM   #2
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Had a similar problem on my friends 40 a few years back. Turned out to be a hairline crack in the rotor and it would arc to the shaft.
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:34 PM   #3
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I had the same thing happening and my friend was chipping in for gas so we stopped at station he had a card for and like magic, no more stumble . Try different gas. No ethanol if you can find it. Or a higher octane. In my case it was the brand. Tim
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Old 07-18-2022, 02:00 PM   #4
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Hmmmm………maybe I should have the distributor reworked this winter. I run on recreational fuel. No ethanol at all !

Thx !
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Old 07-18-2022, 02:23 PM   #5
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JMO But, whenever I start on getting one of our V8's going/driving....with out fail...the carburetor and fuel pump go to CharlieNY, the Distributor goes to Michael at Third Gen (Or CharlieNY) before I even begin!!! While all that is gone, clean the plugs, ends of the wires, check all the fuel lines to be sure they are clear and good and snug. Then when ALL three Items get back, its green light GO!!!! ME personally, I cannot over emphasize the importance of KNOWING the distributor has been redone, set up, run checked and absolutely with no doubts, ready to run and functioning as it should 100%
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Old 07-18-2022, 02:35 PM   #6
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I had a similar problem and now I always insulate the shaft going thru the dizzy, use two layers of shrink tape. Have not had that problem again. ps cut the old rotor button in two and you could see the carbon tracking on the inside
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Old 07-18-2022, 02:49 PM   #7
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R u a purist or would u consider a modern electronic distributor? Lots of guys like the stock distributor? Looks like u have a 40ish? Hard to tell in pics. Doesn’t sound like ur adverse to spending a bit of green? Try a new Petronics or Mallory E-distributor. I run a Mallory no points w modern spark plug wires & all my hesitation issues went away. JMHO
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Old 07-18-2022, 04:45 PM   #8
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Thx much to all for advice. Carb is at Charlie’s now. He doesn’t do distribs anymore he said. He also recommended Third Gen. I’m going to look into a Mallory also. I’m a purist but I want to be able to drive my car without a prob !

Thx again.
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Old 07-18-2022, 06:42 PM   #9
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Send your “original” distributor to Michael at Third Gen, I’ve had the one on my 39 Mercury now for two and a half years, still working as new!! You won’t be disappointed
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Old 07-19-2022, 01:18 AM   #10
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Rock……I’m calling them this morning. They have two listed that are already rebuilt but there are two different part numbers. I’m calling to find out the difference between them.

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Rock……I’m calling them this morning. They have two listed that are already rebuilt but there are two different part numbers. I’m calling to find out the difference between them.

Thx……Mike
Most likely a 68A and 11A.....since you have posted this, you haven't pulled yours yet as you would know. They have to do with the advance curve of the distributor and as you will notice the 11A is more money. Most likely yours is an 11A. It has a better "advance" curve than the 68A. When you remove the one from your car, the number "should" be stamped next to the key way on the back of the distributor that fits into the camshaft.

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Old 07-19-2022, 03:09 PM   #12
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Thx much to all for advice. Carb is at Charlie’s now. He doesn’t do distribs anymore he said. He also recommended Third Gen. I’m going to look into a Mallory also. I’m a purist but I want to be able to drive my car without a prob !

Thx again.
Go with Third Gen for the distributor rebuild. Send him two. One to run and one for a spare.
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Old 07-19-2022, 06:16 PM   #13
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Rock and Seth …….ordered a 68a……….spoke with Michael. When I get the one I bought….. I’ll send them mine to have rebuilt.

Thx……Mike
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Rock and Seth …….ordered a 68a……….spoke with Michael. When I get the one I bought….. I’ll send them mine to have rebuilt.

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Michael is a good guy. He will treat you fairly and give good service.
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Rock and Seth …….ordered a 68a……….spoke with Michael. When I get the one I bought….. I’ll send them mine to have rebuilt.

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Michael is a good guy. He will treat you fairly and give good service.
And NOW you will have a 100% solid foundation to work from to adjust your carburetor AND will also find out just how good your car will start and run!!!
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Old 07-21-2022, 02:55 PM   #16
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Rock and Seth……..����

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Old 07-22-2022, 09:16 AM   #17
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By the way I still rebuild distributors....'32 to '53, I'll never give up that business !

The carb tests fine on my test motor, to be sure I'll run it on my "spoiled rotten '32
pickup" sometime this weekend.
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Old 07-23-2022, 12:27 AM   #18
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Morning Charlie ……….

Whoa……..I thought you told me you didn’t do distrib’s anymore and that’s why you sent me to 3rd Gen ! I’m really sorry I misunderstood. I received the 3rd Gen yesterday and will be installing it soon. I want to have the current one rebuilt to have a spare, so I’ll be in touch on that. Thx for the info on the carb. I’ll look forward to hearing your results.

What’s the turnaround time on a distributor?

Have a good weekend………Mike
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Old 07-23-2022, 07:32 AM   #19
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Here's my test results after installing the carb on my '32. The motor fired up and ran 100% for less than 5 miles (after warm up) then it was as stubborn as Michael
Driskell's goat. I limped home and got the carb on the bench, the acc pump was jammed in it's bore. Not mis aligned but stuck. I build 7 or 8 94's / week and this is a first. I'll get back to it after b'fast and see waaas sup.
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Old 07-23-2022, 01:20 PM   #20
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Charlie what do you think caused that ? I know exactly what you mean by limping home. Same here when I took it out !

Thx for the feed back.

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