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Old 05-22-2016, 04:03 PM   #1
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Hi, as I couldn't find anything that fits my problem I start a new threat.

I have an 1936 5 window coupe with a 21 stut V8 engine. Nearly everything of the engine is original.
Problem:
When the engine runs, it takes a little time when the water gets warm until the thermostats open. When they are open the radiator gets hot, but only in the upper part. At the bottom it stays cold. Then it takes only a few minutes until the temperature rises up to 240 degrees and the radiator blows steam out.
Even the electric van does not start to work because his thermostat is in the lower part of the radiator.

Any ideas anyone? Help in Germany is not to easy to get, as we don't have to much old Fords here.....

Thanks for help!
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Old 05-22-2016, 04:16 PM   #2
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"because his (do you mean 'the'?) thermostat is in the lower part of the radiator." ??? - Explain, please....
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Sounds like you need to have the radiator rodded out or better yet, recored.
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Old 05-22-2016, 04:17 PM   #4
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Remove the radiator and have it rodded out. I'm sure there are radiator shops in Hamburg,there's probably a ton of buildup in it.
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The radiator is plugged up, need a a good rodding out. Walt
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Thermostats belong in the top of the radiator.
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"because his (do you mean 'the'?) thermostat is in the lower part of the radiator." ??? - Explain, please....
After market electric fans use an electric thermostat that can be located where ever you choose to locate it.
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Old 05-26-2016, 03:47 PM   #8
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Thanks everyone, I will check the radiator.
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Old 05-26-2016, 04:34 PM   #9
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Thermostats belong in the top of the radiator.
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Old 05-27-2016, 04:28 AM   #10
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I had my radiator rodded and there was a lot of shite in there, you will be amazed at the difference.

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Old 05-27-2016, 06:40 AM   #11
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Thanks everyone, I will check the radiator.
Save your self some time, take the thermostats out first and
see how it works. G.M.
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Old 05-27-2016, 09:15 AM   #12
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Just be prepared when you have it rodded out - the core may not be in good shape. Tell them to be nice with it! Once you need a new core, the $$$ will start flowing out of your wallet in a hurry.
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Just be prepared when you have it rodded out - the core may not be in good shape. Tell them to be nice with it! Once you need a new core, the $$$ will start flowing out of your wallet in a hurry.
I just had mine totally rebuilt with a new core here in the US for $350....not sure what it would cost to have done in Germany.
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I just had mine totally rebuilt with a new core here in the US for $350....not sure what it would cost to have done in Germany.

$350.00! - You did really good....
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Old 05-29-2016, 03:07 PM   #15
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I think he just used the wrong terminology for the thermal fan switch by saying fan thermostat. Generally the prefered location is the bottom as the hot water enters there , but they can go anywhere.
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$1000 in NZ.

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Old 05-30-2016, 07:56 AM   #17
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15 years ago in Maryland, $500

having the radiator checked may be a good place to start but many times I have found overheating like described was a head gasket problem.
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Old 05-30-2016, 09:24 AM   #18
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My4dv8 has the flow backwards. Hot water is pumped out of the engine through the top hoses into the upper tank, then flows downward as it cools into the bottom tank and then back into the engine block. This is the same direction as natural thermal siphoning would cause the fluid to flow.

The thermostats should be in the upper hoses with the actuating bulb facing toward the engine (downward). I drill a 1/8" (3mm) hole in the thermostat flange to aid in filling the system and to allow trapped air to escape easily.

If the thermostats are in backwards, they will not work properly. I have the electric fan sensor inserted between the upper fins and the bottom of the upper tank. Works well there.

Good luck with the radiator, it's an expensive part.

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Old 05-30-2016, 06:49 PM   #19
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Make sure they don't pressurise it too much when you get it rodded out.. As said it will be $$$ for a new core fitted to your tanks. mine was $850 in Australia and that was a favour should have be $1000 minimum. But your car will love you after..
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Remove ,or reverse the thermostats .Ted
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