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Old 08-23-2021, 02:25 AM   #1
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Note Im not sure if this is allowed but its not a model t related question (it might be)




Now I'm Under 16 and my only source of cash is Christmas and birthday money
I know I'm not gonna be able to afford a model t for a looooooong time
But just wondering about the skill to make a Horseless carriage replica with a lawnmower engine (Note I'm not very mechanically skilled but my dad has loads of tools) I have two choices of what carriage to build! A olds dash replica and also a model t speedster replica (seems harder then the olds )
Just wondering if this is feasible and if any of ya guys have experienced what issues I might be running into and which is easier the olds or the tin lizzie
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Old 08-23-2021, 02:25 AM   #2
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Mods if ya take this down i understand i wont be salty
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Old 08-23-2021, 04:38 AM   #3
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first off- take a job- they are paying 18.00 an hour here in NJ-you can work at 14


yes, go with the olds....... they are frequently for sale on ebay for a few thou and easy to copy.


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Old 08-23-2021, 02:20 PM   #4
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first off- take a job- they are paying 18.00 an hour here in NJ-you can work at 14


yes, go with the olds....... they are frequently for sale on ebay for a few thou and easy to copy.


good luck!
Sadly I live in Canada and the minimum age to work is 14 and im 13 And i just live around farms they don't pay that much think (5 usd a hour) so im just waiting till my birthday
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:18 PM   #5
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We’ve all been there. Dreams bigger than our pocket books.
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:46 PM   #6
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We’ve all been there. Dreams bigger than our pocket books.
some happy news is that since i enrolled in a metalworking class the teacher maybe could help me fab a chassis but school starts in September so right now im just saving up
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Old 08-24-2021, 03:36 AM   #7
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some happy news is that since i enrolled in a metalworking class the teacher maybe could help me fab a chassis but school starts in September so right now im just saving up
Part time and summer jobs for students are easy to come by!
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Old 08-24-2021, 07:47 AM   #9
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Old 08-24-2021, 07:48 AM   #10
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so that one is in cali..................


rob a bank, talk to your folks or set up a gofundme page...............


you should be able to buy it for 2000.


not worth building one....... a nice project.
ask the seller to store till you can get it................


just an idea.
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Old 08-24-2021, 01:04 PM   #11
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Since you live in a rural area, ask the farmers if there are old vehicles in the fencerows that you can haul off (with your parents' permission of course!). You might be able to get an interesting project for free or make a trade to do some work in exchange. That's how I got my first Model T parts.
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Since you live in a rural area, ask the farmers if there are old vehicles in the fencerows that you can haul off (with your parents' permission of course!). You might be able to get an interesting project for free or make a trade to do some work in exchange. That's how I got my first Model T parts.
parents wont allow it
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Old 08-24-2021, 03:52 PM   #13
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Hello, we were all young once, oh those days long ago, I'm 79 now. My first car was a rust free, 1930 Model A Town Sedan which was all disassembled by the previous owner for $300.00. This was purchased in 1964. I was still in college with bills to pay and my Dad was ripped. But three years later this car took me and my new wife away from the church. We never looked back, have had Model A s ever since and now a 1914 Model T. You have to start some place, here are some suggestions:
1. Get some books on how to restore a Model T. Learn about them.
2. Try to join a Model T club nearby. The club members will be pleased with your interest and help you along. You will make new friends who will have the same interest as you. Best of all, they will know where Model T s are located.
3. Study classifieds on the internet. Don't be put off by some of the pricing you will see. There is a lot of Model T parts out there. All you need is a frame to start hanging parts on.
4. If you find something to get started with, you may be able to get your Dad to go look at it. It is a great way to spend time with your Mom or Dad.

Good luck to you. By the way there is a Model T section on the Ford Barn, check in and let them know your interest. Ed
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In that case you might just focus on saving up money and use your upcoming class to gain skills that will be helpful when you are able to get a project. The curved-dash Olds project would be a good practice run for an actual antique car, T or otherwise.
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Old 08-25-2021, 01:23 AM   #15
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In that case you might just focus on saving up money and use your upcoming class to gain skills that will be helpful when you are able to get a project. The curved-dash Olds project would be a good practice run for an actual antique car, T or otherwise.
yea will do
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Old 08-26-2021, 10:38 AM   #16
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Just be patient. Get involved with a local group, you would be surprised what may turn up.
I would suggest building a T, something between 17-25 parts are cheap and easily available. Once you have a running chassis you shouldn't ever have to take a loss. Building a reproduction can be rewarding, but others may not see the value.
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Old 08-26-2021, 05:16 PM   #17
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Go for it. There is a lot of info on the net. What ever you built will add to you skills and interest. That is a fantastic place for your mind to be.
Glad to see your interest.
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Just be patient. Get involved with a local group, you would be surprised what may turn up.
I would suggest building a T, something between 17-25 parts are cheap and easily available. Once you have a running chassis you shouldn't ever have to take a loss. Building a reproduction can be rewarding, but others may not see the value.
Good Luck,
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Thanks for the advice
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Old 08-27-2021, 06:48 AM   #19
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on another note- join MAFCA


they offer scholarships for writing about your exploits with a T. That scholarship can go a long way to your first T or olds or..............


maybe write about your search.
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on another note- join MAFCA


they offer scholarships for writing about your exploits with a T. That scholarship can go a long way to your first T or olds or..............


maybe write about your search.
Honestly I'm not good at writing or math or any school stuff ill try but i doubt ill get accepted
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Old 09-01-2021, 05:57 PM   #21
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A few quotes from Henry Ford: #1;"If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." #2: Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently." #3: When everything seems to be going against you, remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it." Stay with your dreams and they'll get accomplished.
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I think you can find a job at the age of 16 but they won't pay you that much unless you have experience.
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I think you can find a job at the age of 16 but they won't pay you that much unless you have experience.
Yea i guess your right
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Old 09-02-2021, 11:21 AM   #24
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Hang in there and try your best to be patient. I was in your shoes at the age of 12. My Dad had the foresight to save his father's 1926 Model T Coupe, but it was in bad shape, stored outside, etc. It needed a complete restoration. The old iron pistons were rusted in the block from it being stored outside for awhile at my Uncle's farm after we moved. I remember falling in love with that cool old car but had absolutely no idea how to fix it up. I dreamed of driving it someday, but of course at age 12 starting a restoration was beyond my means and Dad had 7 kids to feed so money for restoration was just not there. As I got further into my teens I met others who did Model T restoration and learned things. Yeah, it wasn't until I was in my early 20's and had a decent paying job that I could afford to really start the restoration. However, while I was waiting I learned welding, some basic machining skills, and some painting skills from a wise old neighbor. This gave me a foundation to apply when the time came. I am 65 now and know it is hard to be patient when you are young. Nobody likes to be told to wait! But if you keep the passion burning, the time will come. Learn what you can about these cars, maybe buy some books, learn some skills or at least research them on line. Best wishes and keep at it!
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I bought my first car, Model A at the age of 14. I mowed everybody lawns in the neighborhood and a few farther out. That didn't pay much but I didn't spend any of it on trivial stuff. Anything can be done if you work at it.
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Don't give up; I remember that when I was about 6 or so, I watched Laurel and Hardy movies that were shown on TV on Saturday afternoons.
I caught the Model T bug fast.
All I thought about was Model T's and how great they were and I dreamed of someday owning one.
I joined the local Vintage Car Club of Canada chapter and got to meet lots of old car enthusiasts.
It came to pass one day when I was older, a Model T Ford touring came up for sale and I ended up buying it.
Be patient, your day will come too!

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