The Ford Barn

DavidG · 03-20-2019, 06:27 PM

While I understand the site's policy regarding limiting the responses to ads to personal messages or phone numbers, if listed, it is imperfect in that it relies solely on the accuracy of the seller ads.

As a result, all sorts of things are claimed in an effort to sell, but those claims aren't always accurate and it comes down to how knowledgeable is the potential buyer.

There's an ad today that makes a claim about the originality of a major component part of a body that is totally inaccurate. Some buyers won't know that and if and when they are tired of their new toy they could be confronted with knowledgeable buyer who know the score.

Just my two cents worth.

trulyvintage · 03-20-2019, 07:21 PM

The nature of a Seller is to Embelish

The nature of a Buyer is to Criticize.

Both could use Education.

Jim

DavidG · 03-20-2019, 07:35 PM

Agreed!

Kube · 03-20-2019, 08:12 PM

Dave, I'm with you on this one.
The "old way" was in my opinion a bit more "friendly" to potential buyers as folks could chime in and well, keep the honest folks - honest.

Frank Miller · 03-21-2019, 06:29 AM

When I see "original 32" my radar goes on. Very few of these cars are truly original as there are so many one year or partial year parts. Then there is,"restored to original" 36 Ford followed by the description, hydraulic brakes. Many times it's sellers really do not know what they are selling.

Seth Swoboda · 03-21-2019, 08:54 AM

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There is definitely a lot left to interpretation in the classified ads. An educated consumer is the best customer.

Kube · 03-21-2019, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Miller

When I see "original 32" my radar goes on. Very few of these cars are truly original as there are so many one year or partial year parts. Then there is,"restored to original" 36 Ford followed by the description, hydraulic brakes. Many times it's sellers really do not know what they are selling.

Like you, I get a special "kick" out of the ads you mention. It seems to me a study in language would go far for so many.
Yep, "restored" and then on and on about the 12v. "upgrade", alternator, etc.
I always figure if the seller doesn't know better, what else doesn't he know about the car? Also, if he does know better, than what's he attempting to hide?

deuce_roadster · 03-21-2019, 10:15 AM

Good point Mike!!
My late friend who had 29 early cars (mostly 32s) at the time he passed had a 32 tudor (blue and black) with 27k original miles, a few service recall changes but that's it. I often tell the heir that above all that particular car CAN'T be messed with or any changes made to it, and if they ever decide they don't need it I have to be their first call. This is what I judge "original 32" against. Just one of many 32s he bought from the original owners.

Vics Stuff · 03-21-2019, 10:22 AM

There is a guy on there right now with a 1933 Ford grill for sale . SCAM ! He has been trying to get me to send money. Not going to happen. Can not produce requested pics .
Vic

Carl · 03-21-2019, 06:24 PM

...what gets me is the widespread misuse of the term NOS(new old stock). Back in the day everyone, buyers & sellers, knew it meant Now old Genuine Ford stock out of an old dealer, garage, ect.

barnfind08 · 03-21-2019, 07:38 PM

Still does in my case

Kube · 03-21-2019, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl

...what gets me is the widespread misuse of the term NOS(new old stock). Back in the day everyone, buyers & sellers, knew it meant Now old Genuine Ford stock out of an old dealer, garage, ect.

The definition of NOS has never changed.
The intellect of all too many folks, unfortunately, has.

DavidG · 03-21-2019, 08:23 PM

Add NORS and its ever-expanding definition to that list and perhaps the most misused word of them all, 'classic".

Tinker · 03-21-2019, 10:55 PM

Add the sellers ignorance. But been sucker a few times, not on the barn, with NOS boxes with aftermarket parts. Small stuff though. Buyer beware as they say.

Randy in ca · 03-22-2019, 12:29 PM

Classified ads have a "Report" button the same as any other post. If sending a PM to the seller gets no results perhaps bringing things to the attention of a moderator might - if nothing else it might point out to them that some kind of policy change could be in order.

03-20-2019, 06:27 PM	#1
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,094	misleading ads on the barn While I understand the site's policy regarding limiting the responses to ads to personal messages or phone numbers, if listed, it is imperfect in that it relies solely on the accuracy of the seller ads. As a result, all sorts of things are claimed in an effort to sell, but those claims aren't always accurate and it comes down to how knowledgeable is the potential buyer. There's an ad today that makes a claim about the originality of a major component part of a body that is totally inaccurate. Some buyers won't know that and if and when they are tired of their new toy they could be confronted with knowledgeable buyer who know the score. Just my two cents worth.

03-20-2019, 07:21 PM	#2
trulyvintage Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Direct Enclosed Transport Since 2006 Posts: 4,157	Your Point Being ? The nature of a Seller is to Embelish The nature of a Buyer is to Criticize. Both could use Education. Jim __________________ Click Here To See Where I Am Today What My Actual Customers Say Click Here Click Here To See Vehicles I Have Hauled

03-20-2019, 07:35 PM	#3
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,094	Re: misleading ads on the barn Agreed!

03-20-2019, 08:12 PM	#4
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 8,990	Re: misleading ads on the barn Dave, I'm with you on this one. The "old way" was in my opinion a bit more "friendly" to potential buyers as folks could chime in and well, keep the honest folks - honest. __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

03-21-2019, 06:29 AM	#5
Frank Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auburn, MA Posts: 2,106	Re: misleading ads on the barn When I see "original 32" my radar goes on. Very few of these cars are truly original as there are so many one year or partial year parts. Then there is,"restored to original" 36 Ford followed by the description, hydraulic brakes. Many times it's sellers really do not know what they are selling. __________________ “The technique of infamy is to start two lies at once and get people arguing heatedly over which is true.” ~ Ezra Pound

03-21-2019, 08:54 AM	#6
Seth Swoboda Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 3,787	Re: misleading ads on the barn Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) There is definitely a lot left to interpretation in the classified ads. An educated consumer is the best customer.

03-21-2019, 10:15 AM	#8
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,799	Re: misleading ads on the barn Good point Mike!! My late friend who had 29 early cars (mostly 32s) at the time he passed had a 32 tudor (blue and black) with 27k original miles, a few service recall changes but that's it. I often tell the heir that above all that particular car CAN'T be messed with or any changes made to it, and if they ever decide they don't need it I have to be their first call. This is what I judge "original 32" against. Just one of many 32s he bought from the original owners.

03-21-2019, 10:22 AM	#9
Vics Stuff Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Reno Nevada Posts: 391	Re: misleading ads on the barn There is a guy on there right now with a 1933 Ford grill for sale . SCAM ! He has been trying to get me to send money. Not going to happen. Can not produce requested pics . Vic

03-21-2019, 06:24 PM	#10
Carl Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ingleside,TX Posts: 410	Re: misleading ads on the barn ...what gets me is the widespread misuse of the term NOS(new old stock). Back in the day everyone, buyers & sellers, knew it meant Now old Genuine Ford stock out of an old dealer, garage, ect.

03-21-2019, 07:38 PM	#11
barnfind08 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 893	Re: misleading ads on the barn Still does in my case

03-21-2019, 08:23 PM	#13
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,094	Re: misleading ads on the barn Add NORS and its ever-expanding definition to that list and perhaps the most misused word of them all, 'classic". Last edited by DavidG; 03-22-2019 at 06:21 AM. Reason: spelling correction

03-21-2019, 10:55 PM	#14
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: misleading ads on the barn Add the sellers ignorance. But been sucker a few times, not on the barn, with NOS boxes with aftermarket parts. Small stuff though. Buyer beware as they say.

03-22-2019, 12:29 PM	#15
Randy in ca Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,640	Re: misleading ads on the barn Classified ads have a "Report" button the same as any other post. If sending a PM to the seller gets no results perhaps bringing things to the attention of a moderator might - if nothing else it might point out to them that some kind of policy change could be in order.