The Ford Barn

30aadoodlebug · 03-05-2016, 11:38 AM

Since its too cold to work in the barn today, I've decided to begin rebuilding one of the carburetors I have on the shelf. Now that tear-down is complete, I have to ask: is using ammonia just as effective as the much more expensive carb cleaner to soak it? Les Andrews touches briefly on this in his Zenith overhaul section in Vol. 1. Is this worth doing?

Thanks!

BILL WILLIAMSON · 03-05-2016, 01:04 PM

I've cleaned them in a pot, on the stove, with TIDE & WATER.
Bill Clean

DougVieyra · 03-05-2016, 01:24 PM

NO ! Ammonia is not nearly as effective at cleaning anything (well, just about anything) as is Carburetor cleaner.

I found this out while cleaning out the fonts and 'burners' of my 15 or so Kerosene Lamps. While some recommend ammonia for cleaning lamps (and I did a bunch of lamps this way) ammonia did not work nearly as well (effective, thorough, timely) as did carb. cleaner.

I would presume that the same results would be for cleaning a carburetor.

Mitch//pa · 03-05-2016, 02:02 PM

I use my sandblast cab on the zenith's... I then wash it off and flush all the ports out with carb cleaner and a straw

Tom Wesenberg · 03-05-2016, 02:08 PM

I do the same as Mitch.
If I find a passage totally blocked, then I remove the brass plug to clean it out, otherwise I leave the brass plugs alone.

30aadoodlebug · 03-05-2016, 02:42 PM

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Thanks guys! I guess that does away with my wallets hopes of a cheaper fix. It did sound strange, but figured it would be worth asking about before using the method.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 03-05-2016, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

I use my sandblast cab on the zenith's... I then wash it off and flush all the ports out with carb cleaner and a straw

BE EVER SO CAREFUL, if your glasses have PLASTIC lens, it can RUIN them
Dad W.

Will N · 03-05-2016, 02:51 PM

Ammonia will dissolve the brass plugs in the passage ways if you soak the carb too long.

Mitch//pa · 03-05-2016, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

BE EVER SO CAREFUL, if your glasses have PLASTIC lens, it can RUIN them
Dad W.

I don't wear glasses

H. L. Chauvin · 03-05-2016, 03:29 PM

FWIW:

"If" one wants to experiment with a few things that "really" works, and will not harm metal for cleaning cast iron carburetors or pot metal carburetors :

1. Cast Iron or Pot Metal:

POR 15 "Marine Clean" is a water based chemical specially formulated material that attacks petroleum products like paint remover attacking dry, cured paint .......... it emulsifies petroleum products as opposed to thinning petroleum products. It reaches deep down in the pores of metal where afterwards, the emulsified petroleum residue can be rinsed off with water. After said use, (sometimes with more than one application), the metal is "oil free & petroleum product free" ....... hence, it will rust quickly in humid areas if not treated or painted to seal metal pores.

2. Non-Ferrous Carburetor Screws and Jets: Used successfully only by vintage mechanics that I knew since the Model T days:

A. For non-believers, please find the most tarnished pennies one can find and allow several of them to soak in two (2) separate solutions.

a. Solution A: Your most favorite and strongest Carburetor Jet and Carburetor Screw Cleaner.

b. Solution B: Louisiana Hot Sauce.

After 10 minutes soaking, please, please, look at the pennies in each solution.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm .....

Besides steel wires, wire brushes, lacquer thinner, carburetor cleaner, etc., etc., ...................

What was in "most" mechanics' shops for cleaning insides and outsides of Carburetor Jets for the past 90 years?

30aadoodlebug · 03-05-2016, 04:22 PM

So a gallon of Franks would do it? Or should one try Tobasco?

H. L. Chauvin · 03-05-2016, 05:18 PM

FWIW:

"Louisiana Hot Sauce" was prescribed on the above very potent "Prescription" because of the Cayenne content .............. LOL

Stick with the "Prescription" made with only with Cayenne Peppers, e.g.:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cayenne pepper is a certain remedy for heart attack; as a stimulant, it can start the heart into action again, and as it facilitates blood flow throughout the body, it will keep the heart going. Used as a heart attack preventative, along with the mucusless diet and a healthful life-style, Cayenne can do wonders in toning and rebuilding the heart and keeping it in top condition.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Maybe keep a bottle in your Model A if you have occasional chest pains.

Why change the "Prescription" when one know what works for carburetor jets.

The "Louisiana", and "Crystal" brands are still using vintage Cayenne Peppers as opposed to chili peppers and jalapeno peppers and God knows what.

Hope this helps ...... similar to MMO ..... LOL

ian Simpson · 03-05-2016, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

I don't wear glasses

Then wear safety glasses

ursus · 03-06-2016, 02:04 PM

Yes, safety glasses! If you don't think eye protection is important, ask the man who has one.

katy · 03-07-2016, 11:42 AM

Only one set of eyes to a customer.

FrankWest · 03-07-2016, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30aadoodlebug

Since its too cold to work in the barn today, I've decided to begin rebuilding one of the carburetors I have on the shelf. Now that tear-down is complete, I have to ask: is using ammonia just as effective as the much more expensive carb cleaner to soak it? Les Andrews touches briefly on this in his Zenith overhaul section in Vol. 1. Is this worth doing?

Thanks!

Don't use ammonia..ammonia is very corrosive..I actually dissolves metals other than steel.

SeaSlugs · 03-07-2016, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H. L. Chauvin

FWIW:

"If" one wants to experiment with a few things that "really" works, and will not harm metal for cleaning cast iron carburetors or pot metal carburetors :

1. Cast Iron or Pot Metal:

POR 15 "Marine Clean" is a water based chemical specially formulated material that attacks petroleum products like paint remover attacking dry, cured paint .......... it emulsifies petroleum products as opposed to thinning petroleum products. It reaches deep down in the pores of metal where afterwards, the emulsified petroleum residue can be rinsed off with water. After said use, (sometimes with more than one application), the metal is "oil free & petroleum product free" ....... hence, it will rust quickly in humid areas if not treated or painted to seal metal pores.

2. Non-Ferrous Carburetor Screws and Jets: Used successfully only by vintage mechanics that I knew since the Model T days:

A. For non-believers, please find the most tarnished pennies one can find and allow several of them to soak in two (2) separate solutions.

a. Solution A: Your most favorite and strongest Carburetor Jet and Carburetor Screw Cleaner.

b. Solution B: Louisiana Hot Sauce.

After 10 minutes soaking, please, please, look at the pennies in each solution.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm .....

Besides steel wires, wire brushes, lacquer thinner, carburetor cleaner, etc., etc., ...................

What was in "most" mechanics' shops for cleaning insides and outsides of Carburetor Jets for the past 90 years?

only reason why the hot sauce works is its mostly vinegar and peppers. Vinegar alone will remove rust off anything as its a mild acid. it will clean up brass and copper but will also eat them if left too long. put a penny in vinegar and it will come out shiny as ever.

Ive seen the mediablast method work the best.

RDVAARK · 06-10-2023, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H. L. Chauvin

FWIW:

"Louisiana Hot Sauce" was prescribed on the above very potent "Prescription" because of the Cayenne content .............. LOL

Stick with the "Prescription" made with only with Cayenne Peppers, e.g.:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cayenne pepper is a certain remedy for heart attack; as a stimulant, it can start the heart into action again, and as it facilitates blood flow throughout the body, it will keep the heart going. Used as a heart attack preventative, along with the mucusless diet and a healthful life-style, Cayenne can do wonders in toning and rebuilding the heart and keeping it in top condition.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Maybe keep a bottle in your Model A if you have occasional chest pains.

Why change the "Prescription" when one know what works for carburetor jets.

The "Louisiana", and "Crystal" brands are still using vintage Cayenne Peppers as opposed to chili peppers and jalapeno peppers and God knows what.

Hope this helps ...... similar to MMO ..... LOL

I've really liked the results i get with "Secret AArdvark Hot Sauce".

mcgarrett · 06-10-2023, 07:03 PM

Forget all the other gee whiz cleaners out there. Go down to your Ford dealers' parts department and buy a can of this. This stuff really works. You will be amazed at how well it cleans.

mcgarrett · 06-10-2023, 07:03 PM

forgot the link...

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03-05-2016, 11:38 AM	#1
30aadoodlebug Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Boxborough, MA Posts: 274	Ammonia instead of carb cleaner? Since its too cold to work in the barn today, I've decided to begin rebuilding one of the carburetors I have on the shelf. Now that tear-down is complete, I have to ask: is using ammonia just as effective as the much more expensive carb cleaner to soak it? Les Andrews touches briefly on this in his Zenith overhaul section in Vol. 1. Is this worth doing? Thanks!

03-05-2016, 01:04 PM	#2
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Ammonia instead of carb cleaner? I've cleaned them in a pot, on the stove, with TIDE & WATER. Bill Clean __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

03-05-2016, 01:24 PM	#3
DougVieyra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 1,716	Re: Ammonia instead of carb cleaner? NO ! Ammonia is not nearly as effective at cleaning anything (well, just about anything) as is Carburetor cleaner. I found this out while cleaning out the fonts and 'burners' of my 15 or so Kerosene Lamps. While some recommend ammonia for cleaning lamps (and I did a bunch of lamps this way) ammonia did not work nearly as well (effective, thorough, timely) as did carb. cleaner. I would presume that the same results would be for cleaning a carburetor.

03-05-2016, 02:02 PM	#4
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Ammonia instead of carb cleaner? I use my sandblast cab on the zenith's... I then wash it off and flush all the ports out with carb cleaner and a straw

03-05-2016, 02:08 PM	#5
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Ammonia instead of carb cleaner? I do the same as Mitch. If I find a passage totally blocked, then I remove the brass plug to clean it out, otherwise I leave the brass plugs alone.

03-05-2016, 02:42 PM	#6
30aadoodlebug Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Boxborough, MA Posts: 274	Re: Ammonia instead of carb cleaner? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thanks guys! I guess that does away with my wallets hopes of a cheaper fix. It did sound strange, but figured it would be worth asking about before using the method.

03-05-2016, 02:51 PM	#8
Will N Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,100	Re: Ammonia instead of carb cleaner? Ammonia will dissolve the brass plugs in the passage ways if you soak the carb too long.

03-05-2016, 03:29 PM	#10
H. L. Chauvin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,179	Re: Ammonia instead of carb cleaner? FWIW: "If" one wants to experiment with a few things that "really" works, and will not harm metal for cleaning cast iron carburetors or pot metal carburetors : 1. Cast Iron or Pot Metal: POR 15 "Marine Clean" is a water based chemical specially formulated material that attacks petroleum products like paint remover attacking dry, cured paint .......... it emulsifies petroleum products as opposed to thinning petroleum products. It reaches deep down in the pores of metal where afterwards, the emulsified petroleum residue can be rinsed off with water. After said use, (sometimes with more than one application), the metal is "oil free & petroleum product free" ....... hence, it will rust quickly in humid areas if not treated or painted to seal metal pores. 2. Non-Ferrous Carburetor Screws and Jets: Used successfully only by vintage mechanics that I knew since the Model T days: A. For non-believers, please find the most tarnished pennies one can find and allow several of them to soak in two (2) separate solutions. a. Solution A: Your most favorite and strongest Carburetor Jet and Carburetor Screw Cleaner. b. Solution B: Louisiana Hot Sauce. After 10 minutes soaking, please, please, look at the pennies in each solution. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ..... Besides steel wires, wire brushes, lacquer thinner, carburetor cleaner, etc., etc., ................... What was in "most" mechanics' shops for cleaning insides and outsides of Carburetor Jets for the past 90 years? Last edited by H. L. Chauvin; 03-05-2016 at 03:31 PM. Reason: typo

03-05-2016, 04:22 PM	#11
30aadoodlebug Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Boxborough, MA Posts: 274	Re: Ammonia instead of carb cleaner? So a gallon of Franks would do it? Or should one try Tobasco?

03-05-2016, 05:18 PM	#12
H. L. Chauvin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,179	Re: Ammonia instead of carb cleaner? FWIW: "Louisiana Hot Sauce" was prescribed on the above very potent "Prescription" because of the Cayenne content .............. LOL Stick with the "Prescription" made with only with Cayenne Peppers, e.g.: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cayenne pepper is a certain remedy for heart attack; as a stimulant, it can start the heart into action again, and as it facilitates blood flow throughout the body, it will keep the heart going. Used as a heart attack preventative, along with the mucusless diet and a healthful life-style, Cayenne can do wonders in toning and rebuilding the heart and keeping it in top condition. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maybe keep a bottle in your Model A if you have occasional chest pains. Why change the "Prescription" when one know what works for carburetor jets. The "Louisiana", and "Crystal" brands are still using vintage Cayenne Peppers as opposed to chili peppers and jalapeno peppers and God knows what. Hope this helps ...... similar to MMO ..... LOL

03-06-2016, 02:04 PM	#14
ursus Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,375	Re: Ammonia instead of carb cleaner? Yes, safety glasses! If you don't think eye protection is important, ask the man who has one.

03-07-2016, 11:42 AM	#15
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,044	Re: Ammonia instead of carb cleaner? Only one set of eyes to a customer. __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!

06-10-2023, 07:03 PM	#19
mcgarrett Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Waxahachie, Texas Posts: 949	Re: Ammonia instead of carb cleaner? Forget all the other gee whiz cleaners out there. Go down to your Ford dealers' parts department and buy a can of this. This stuff really works. You will be amazed at how well it cleans.