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Old 08-14-2017, 12:40 AM   #1
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Default The cars that made America.

Just watched the first episode of three. Part 2 tonight, looks to be pretty good. I don't know how accurate it is but Henry doesn't come out looking so well. Ive read the stories about him but they are pretty harsh .....poor Edsel.
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Old 08-14-2017, 01:51 AM   #2
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Just watched the first episode of three. Part 2 tonight, looks to be pretty good. I don't know how accurate it is but Henry doesn't come out looking so well. Ive read the stories about him but they are pretty harsh .....poor Edsel.
Yup, very informative overall regarding industrial development in America ! I'm hooked for the remaining segments !
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I'm hooked. Ford started out good but it seems like it all went to his head. His treatment of Edsel certainly wouldn't make anyone's "how to" list.
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Check the MTFCA forum. I agree with most of the postings.

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Old 08-14-2017, 06:55 AM   #5
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Wrong cars at wrong times, left out majority of original stockholders, 08 T's did not have accessory wires and on and on. Someone said it was fine for a third grade education level. We will see how it treats the advent of the A, B and v8 in the next show.
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History channel. Part 2 is on tonight.
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Did anyone notice the scene in the Dodge brothers office where they are designing their first car? At the very beginning of the scene, there is what appears to be a flathead block sitting on a table.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:20 AM   #9
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I came to the conclusion a long time ago that the History Channel is associated with the main stream media. Facts don't matter. As much as a car nut as I've been for 70 years I didn't even bother to watch it as I knew I'd get mad and switch it.
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:07 AM   #10
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A lot of creative writing for sure. Walter P. was in fact a mechanical whiz, youngest head of the railroads mechanical repair shops. However, Buick/Mr Nash did not hire Walter P away from the railroad, he had retired from his position with the RR in his early forties.
Walter P. did take the presidents' position at Buick following Billy Durant's departure.
Of course anyone that knows much automotive history will pick out the little nuances of fact vs fiction.. Still good entertainment last night.
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The Dodge brothers owned a lot of Ford stock early on and as partners they manufactured a lot of parts for Henry. He wanted to buy them out but they weren't going to give it away to him. Henry had several buy out deals with partners that cost him very dearly in those early years. After he bought back the stock from the Dodge bothers, they took the money and started their own car company. They would have done well except for one of the brothers died and the other couldn't live without him so they were both dead in a short period of time. A very sad story. They built a hell of a car right up until the end of them. Walter P Chrysler bought out what was left.

A lot of folks that make these documentaries think they will bore young folks with all the details so a lot is left out but there is a lot of interesting stuff in those details.
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I watched it, certainly was hollywoodized, I just wanted to see the old cars, so I didn't much care what they said as I knew it wouldn't be accurate.
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I came to the conclusion a long time ago that the History Channel is associated with the main stream media. Facts don't matter. As much as a car nut as I've been for 70 years I didn't even bother to watch it as I knew I'd get mad and switch it.
Yeah, the programming gurus (women).. are all into profit.. it was entertaining, but not really about CARS, more about the history of the men that manufactured them... my opinion
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I tried to watch episode 2 tonight but the amount of commercials made it unwatchable. Plus, after each commercial break, the narrations from before the break were repeated. Sometime 3 times.
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Did anyone notice the scene in the Dodge brothers office where they are designing their first car? At the very beginning of the scene, there is what appears to be a flathead block sitting on a table.
Makes for great tv, also saying they are amazing innovative designers and if they didn't die, where would we be. Flying cars no less.

I like the dodge brothers by the way.

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At the very beginning of #1 they said the year was 1927 as they showed a 1931 Model A. Soon after that I changed channels.
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:43 PM   #17
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Just showed a 5 min gm praise for innovation, after 10 mins of bashing Henry's morals. Then showed a poster of a 1928 ford model A for GMs new car release in 1926. Neat.

History channel needs to just keep making shows about alien history and ghost stories as they do now.
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Did anyone notice the scene in the Dodge brothers office where they are designing their first car? At the very beginning of the scene, there is what appears to be a flathead block sitting on a table.
I saw that, they showed it twice. It looked like one of these P-Ayr plastic blocks. I imagine someone said "get me an old engine block we can carry around the set"

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The 2nd episode sucked even more than the 1st!....No mention of the development of the Flathead V8....
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My sister called to tell me to switch it on. I looked for for maybe 15 minutes, then went back to whatever my wife was watching. I told her there was nothing to learn there. My bookshelf gives me the facts I need. Of course I'll thank sis when I talk to her (maybe).
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