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Old 02-27-2021, 12:59 PM   #1
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Iíve always been a Model A guy, but this is tempting. The seller says itís all original, 90% complete, and was running when parked. Been in the family since new. It looks a little rough, but good unrestored Tís are getting hard to find. Heís only asking $1500. What do you guys think?
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Old 02-27-2021, 01:03 PM   #2
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I always wanted a T and bought one fully restored 3 years ago. I refer to it as a major mistake.
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A couple of new tires and some fresh gas and you are all set!
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Iíve always been a Model A guy, but this is tempting. The seller says itís all original, 90% complete, and was running when parked. Been in the family since new. It looks a little rough, but good unrestored Tís are getting hard to find. Heís only asking $1500. What do you guys think?
The headlight reflectors look good...
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Old 02-27-2021, 02:06 PM   #5
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Ray, surely you jest! I think the cows got the better of that car. Not much left useable. Couple hundred bucks? I think new wooden wheels alone are over a grand, RUN! Plus T's aren't worth much finished. I put a '15 T touring together a few years ago, and it really is an interesting car, nothing like a Model A, but to be honest, I don't put 300 miles a year on it anymore.
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Old 02-27-2021, 02:24 PM   #7
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I always wanted a T and bought one fully restored 3 years ago. I refer to it as a major mistake.
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Wayne, wow!! I'd much rather tour in one of my Model-Ts than As. More leg room for me, arguable more crowd appeal at stops, more touring opportunities, etc. I've had e of my T to the top of Mt. Rushmore, we've toured the New England states, several tours through the Midwest, toured the same routes and location as Henry Ford & the Vagabonds did 100 years to the day, driven on the sand of Daytona Beach, and even drove 340 miles in one day on the Blue Ridge and Skyline Parkway from Blowing Rock, NC to Luray, VA. My daughter even hillclimbed her speedster when she was still in high school at the FAST hillclimb in Unicoi. My kids would 10 to 1 rather have a Model-T over an A. Matter of fact, both kids started driving their own Ts on tours when they each turned 16. My family definitely does not feel like Model-Ts are a mistake. Several other regulars here like Bill Stipe, Randall Strickland, and a few others likely feel the same way about their Ts.

Below are a few random pix of my family touring with our Ts. Even a video clip of my son Blake unloading & starting his speedster on a tour in Galax, VA. It definitely runs out of steering WAY before it runs out of throttle, ...and will easily outrun most stock Model-As.

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Old 02-27-2021, 03:07 PM   #8
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Wayne, wow!! I'd much rather tour in one of my Model-Ts than As. More leg room for me, arguable more crowd appeal at stops, more touring opportunities, etc. I've had e of my T to the top of Mt. Rushmore, we've toured the New England states, several tours through the Midwest, toured the same routes and location as Henry Ford & the Vagabonds did 100 years to the day, driven on the sand of Daytona Beach, and even drove 340 miles in one day on the Blue Ridge and Skyline Parkway from Blowing Rock, NC to Luray, VA. My daughter even hillclimbed her speedster when she was still in high school at the FAST hillclimb in Unicoi. My kids would 10 to 1 rather have a Model-T over an A. Matter of fact, both kids started driving their own Ts on tours when they each turned 16. My family definitely does not feel like Model-Ts are a mistake. Several other regulars here like Bill Stipe, Randall Strickland, and a few others likely feel the same way about their Ts.

Below are a few random pix of my family touring with our Ts. Even a video clip of my son Blake unloading & starting his speedster on a tour in Galax, VA. It definitely runs out of steering WAY before it runs out of throttle, ...and will easily outrun most stock Model-As.

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Looks like you have great fun. I found it more work than fun. I am sure I am in the minority. No offence intended to Model T people. Wayne
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I have also always been a Model A person. I wanted to buy a Model T in high school. It was for sale for $150 and pretty much stock. I would guess mid 1920's. But my father said no. He had experience with Model T's and knew they could be dangerous. He lost an axle or gears on a down grade in LA with his parents in the back seat and had to head for a curb to stop. I kind of agree with him that it can be dangerous car.

Fast forward to about 12 years ago when I had the money to buy a 1915 Model T touring car. I bought it because I had never owned one and wanted the experience. I put a lot of work into the that car, basically increasing the value twofold. One of the first things I did was put working brakes on the rear wheels so that I would not have to depend on a connection between the transmission and rear wheels. I really enjoyed that car and drove it all over the south east. But eventually I had enough experience and sold it to buy another A. If I had the money and space I would have kept it.

The A is a modern car compared to the T. It has a real transmission and 4-wheel brakes. Plus a steering box. The T had a steering setup more like a gokart. The transmission brake is almost useless. Coast to a stop then apply the brake. The ignition system is from another era. But that is part of the charm of a T.

A comfortable speed is 35 mph and maybe 40 on a 4 lane road that is flat and straight. It cannot go on the highway. Although people build speedsters that can do 70 mph but you will never catch me riding in one.

If you can afford it and have the room, I recommend owning a T and an A. A 1915 Model T or earlier will get you into the Horseless Carriage Club tours which are a blast because of the variety of brass cars. Even an occasional Stanley Steamer.
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I have also always been a Model A person. I wanted to buy a Model T in high school. It was for sale for $150 and pretty much stock. I would guess mid 1920's. But my father said no. He had experience with Model T's and knew they could be dangerous. He lost an axle or gears on a down grade in LA with his parents in the back seat and had to head for a curb to stop. I kind of agree with him that it can be dangerous car.

Fast forward to about 12 years ago when I had the money to buy a 1915 Model T touring car. I bought it because I had never owned one and wanted the experience. I put a lot of work into the that car, basically increasing the value twofold. One of the first things I did was put working brakes on the rear wheels so that I would not have to depend on a connection between the transmission and rear wheels. I really enjoyed that car and drove it all over the south east. But eventually I had enough experience and sold it to buy another A. If I had the money and space I would have kept it.

The A is a modern car compared to the T. It has a real transmission and 4-wheel brakes. Plus a steering box. The T had a steering setup more like a gokart. The transmission brake is almost useless. Coast to a stop then apply the brake. The ignition system is from another era. But that is part of the charm of a T.

A comfortable speed is 35 mph and maybe 40 on a 4 lane road that is flat and straight. It cannot go on the highway. Although people build speedsters that can do 70 mph but you will never catch me riding in one.

If you can afford it and have the room, I recommend owning a T and an A. A 1915 Model T or earlier will get you into the Horseless Carriage Club tours which are a blast because of the variety of brass cars. Even an occasional Stanley Steamer.
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:49 PM   #11
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Old 02-27-2021, 07:26 PM   #12
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Hello ,
I bought a 20 Model T tourer about 20 years ago .

Since I was a kid I was attracted to the history and looks of the T as well as its agricultural Mechanics.It was the first Antique car I purchased.

After owning it and driving it for 12 months I decided to sell it.
Why ? Every time I it took it out for a a drive whether short or long at the end of the drive I had a headache.
I never had headaches before this.
I put this down to the stress I was under driving it in a big city.

Every time I got close to a set of traffic lights I had to decide whether to proceed at normal speed or slow down in case the traffic lights changed.This was stressful as I knew if the lights changed when I was reasonably close to the lights I could not stop in time if travelling at 35 mph.All I had was the transmission brake band to stop the car.

It was only a matter of time before my luck would run out and I would be T boned by another car..
The number of red lights I ran through made me decide the T was not suitable to drive in a big city with lots of traffic.
If I lived in a small town this would not have been an issue.

After I sold the T and got the A I no longer got headaches when driving the A.
I still love the look of the T models but for me they are not suited to driving in big busy cities.
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i can see 2 or 3 weeks work in that
Roger is on the right track with this one.

Turn it over to any one of the impossible time schedule car 'restoration' shows on cable TV and they'll have this baby tour and show ready in what, 5 days tops? Throw in the drama of the wrong set of rims that were sourced and the cussing and stupidity and vo-ila,,, we gots a SHOW

THAT is how you handle this.
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I have my grandfather's Model T (it was his work car in the 40's and early 50's). My Dad gave it to me and I restored it. All of the above is true in that driving in modern traffic is risky, certainly in a populated city. They don't move fast. And the bit about a broken axle and loosing your brakes is all too true. If you do want a Model T, certain modifications are almost essential, particularly floating rear hubs and auxiliary brakes.

I will never get rid of my Model T even though I rarely drive it, and when I do, only out on a sparsely traveled country road. By comparison, I refer to my Model A's as my "modern cars." A Model T owner has to be willing to tinker and tweak and not everyone is willing to do that. Far more tinkering and tweaking on a Model T than a Model A. Having said that, I sure would like an early brass T.......
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Hello ,
I bought a 20 Model T tourer about 20 years ago .

Since I was a kid I was attracted to the history and looks of the T as well as its agricultural Mechanics.It was the first Antique car I purchased.

After owning it and driving it for 12 months I decided to sell it.
Why ? Every time I it took it out for a a drive whether short or long at the end of the drive I had a headache.
I never had headaches before this.
I put this down to the stress I was under driving it in a big city.

Every time I got close to a set of traffic lights I had to decide whether to proceed at normal speed or slow down in case the traffic lights changed.This was stressful as I knew if the lights changed when I was reasonably close to the lights I could not stop in time if travelling at 35 mph.All I had was the transmission brake band to stop the car.

It was only a matter of time before my luck would run out and I would be T boned by another car..
The number of red lights I ran through made me decide the T was not suitable to drive in a big city with lots of traffic.
If I lived in a small town this would not have been an issue.

After I sold the T and got the A I no longer got headaches when driving the A.
I still love the look of the T models but for me they are not suited to driving in big busy cities.
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Hello ,
I bought a 20 Model T tourer about 20 years ago .

Since I was a kid I was attracted to the history and looks of the T as well as its agricultural Mechanics.It was the first Antique car I purchased.

After owning it and driving it for 12 months I decided to sell it.
Why ? Every time I it took it out for a a drive whether short or long at the end of the drive I had a headache.
I never had headaches before this.
I put this down to the stress I was under driving it in a big city.

Every time I got close to a set of traffic lights I had to decide whether to proceed at normal speed or slow down in case the traffic lights changed.This was stressful as I knew if the lights changed when I was reasonably close to the lights I could not stop in time if travelling at 35 mph.All I had was the transmission brake band to stop the car.

It was only a matter of time before my luck would run out and I would be T boned by another car..
The number of red lights I ran through made me decide the T was not suitable to drive in a big city with lots of traffic.
If I lived in a small town this would not have been an issue.

After I sold the T and got the A I no longer got headaches when driving the A.
I still love the look of the T models but for me they are not suited to driving in big busy cities.
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I like to look at them, and that is about it. Took a spin in one at The Henry Ford. They just are not practical these days. They sure were great in the day. I love my A. Cast iron drums, super heavy duty radiator, and an overdrive. I can take it to the hardware store, out for a spin, on tour with my local club. It's a very nice car.
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I have my grandfather's Model T (it was his work car in the 40's and early 50's). My Dad gave it to me and I restored it. All of the above is true in that driving in modern traffic is risky, certainly in a populated city. They don't move fast. And the bit about a broken axle and loosing your brakes is all too true. If you do want a Model T, certain modifications are almost essential, particularly floating rear hubs and auxiliary brakes.

I will never get rid of my Model T even though I rarely drive it, and when I do, only out on a sparsely traveled country road. By comparison, I refer to my Model A's as my "modern cars." A Model T owner has to be willing to tinker and tweak and not everyone is willing to do that. Far more tinkering and tweaking on a Model T than a Model A. Having said that, I sure would like an early brass T.......

And Greg just think about this, The T was the first little car, that the average person could afford, THAT WORKED. That's why they sold so many of them.
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I live in Melbourne Australia which is about the same size as LA. 5 million people. I live 15 miles out in the burbs. The city spreads out in a radius of 50 miles in all directions from the center.

In the suburbs there are traffic lights everywhere , now they have cameras on them so you incur a $200 fine if you run them.

Once out in the countryside it is great. It just getting there that is the problem.
You cannot run a T on a freeway, but with an A you can .

Big cities suck. Avoid living in them if you can.
My plan in a few years is to shift to Dunedin NZ my favorite city , with less than a million people and get out of the rat race.

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