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Old 09-15-2014, 05:52 PM   #1
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Saw this online and it looks beautiful. Curious if anyone here knows the car.
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Old 09-15-2014, 07:11 PM   #2
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Beautiful car!

I didn't realize 221's made 85 HP?
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Old 09-15-2014, 08:12 PM   #3
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Says it's a 34 and it has a 34 grill, but those are 33 door handles aren't they?
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Old 09-15-2014, 09:36 PM   #4
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I'd say it was a true '34. I have a '33 and believe the exterior handles are the same. Headlights and cowl lights look like '34 and cowl cut outs for hood and hood locks are '34 as is the dash and interior garnishes etc.
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Old 09-15-2014, 10:19 PM   #5
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Hi there, Yep it appears to be all correct 1934. The deluxe interior winder knobs were usually a marble burl coloured type this one has nickel or chrome knobs as fitted to the STANDARD cars, otherwise all correct. This car is the same model and colour as the Bonnie & Clyde death car except it does not have the accessory Potter trunk at the rear. There is something special about the styling of a 1934 Ford fordor sedan which is not quite matched by the other body types in 33-34. It has real class ,in my opinion anyway. I LOVE IT. Regards, Kevin.
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Old 09-15-2014, 11:19 PM   #6
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Further to my above post, this car has several incorrect items fitted and some missing. It appears to have a 1935-36 engine and transmission fitted. Check out the photo underneath the engine and the curved gear shift lever. Has rear shocks missing and possibly front as well. Incorrect rear muffler support bracket and exhaust routing. Later 36 large body fuel pump. 36 water pumps. Missing rear assist straps inside. Extra dash lamp fitted plus another hole plugged up. Hole plugged in firewall, possibly for heater hose. Having said that it is still a great car. I would have it please. Regards, Kevin.
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:10 AM   #7
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Kevin,
You have good eyes. Didn't notice the missing shocks. I did notice the single pin stripe though, and the lack of wood graining on the dash and reveals. Still, I love the car. That is an odd color but one I wouldn't mind having. The paint looks outstanding from the photographs. Mine is basic black, but if I had to do one over, I think I would go with the Cordoba Tan.
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:28 AM   #8
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Cordoba Tan is a 35-35 color and is a little different shade than the 34 Cordoba Gray.
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I wish I did!
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OK, I have a lot of 33 and 34 doors, all of the 33's have the interior handle at the front of the door and the 34's have the interior handle at the center of the doors. Anyone know when this change occurred, I always thought it was a model year thing. If some 34's have the forward handle, then apparently not. (I know these are coupe photos, but sedans are the same, at least the ones I have seen are).
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Old 09-16-2014, 11:32 AM   #11
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Here are some bare door photos, the 33 door is for a 5-window coupe, the 34 doors are 34 4dr doors.
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Early '34 used the '33 (forward latch). I do not have a defined date that the transition to the center latch was done. Henry was just using up the remaining inner skins & latches. The early '34 doors still have the smoker panel, take the '34 garnish, and window regulator.
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OK, I have a lot of 33 and 34 doors, all of the 33's have the interior handle at the front of the door and the 34's have the interior handle at the center of the doors. Anyone know when this change occurred, I always thought it was a model year thing. If some 34's have the forward handle, then apparently not. (I know these are coupe photos, but sedans are the same, at least the ones I have seen are).
Change was made in March 34 according to the 'book'
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Old 09-16-2014, 11:45 AM   #14
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Thanks for the inputs! March of 34 seems late as almost all of the doors I find are the later style. March seems like it would be near the end of the model run, wonder why so many early door have disappeared and there are so many later ones around?
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We had a very original, 4,100-ish serial number '34 5-window with the forward handles. Sorry...no pic available. DD
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:18 PM   #16
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I looked for a while for the forward handle style for my 5-window coupe, all I could find were the center ones, very interesting.
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Old 09-16-2014, 01:07 PM   #17
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Very nice, and it would be hard pressed to put one into that condition for upper 30's.
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