60hp alum. intake push rod removal

[HCO41]

I have early 60h.p. '37 coupe running off electric fuel pump. I want to put stock pump back in service. I don't know if push rod is still under blocked off mechanical pump. Looks like intake needs to be removed to get to push rod. This is an early stainless sided engine. Does intake have to come off to get to push rod?

[flatjack9]

Yes, manifold needs to come off.

[ken ct]

Why would the manifold have to come off,doesen't have to on the 85 HP. Does it have a baffel tube down there if so pull it up and you can remove the push rod. It goes in before the baffel tube is dropped in. Gasket goes in before the tube also.I have some NOS 60 hp push rods if you need. Would have to know length before hand?? ken ct.

[KiWinUS]

Originally Posted by ken ct

Why would the manifold have to come off,doesen't have to on the 85 HP. Does it have a baffel tube down there if so pull it up and you can remove the push rod. It goes in before the baffel tube is dropped in. Gasket goes in before the tube also.I have some NOS 60 hp push rods if you need. Would have to know length before hand?? ken ct.

Once again this guy has no idea what he is talking about !!! Just imagine what his so called rebuilt parts are like !!!
Intake must come off on a 60 , fuel pump stand & intake is all one.

[ken ct]

Aluminum intake uses a rod 5.625 = 5 5/8" cast iron intake uses a rod 6.375 = 6 3/8" have both. ken ct.

[HCO41]

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Thanks to Flatjack9 and KiWinUS. I'll pull the manifold and see what I've got. Ken ct might want to take a look at an early 60hp to see what we're talking about. My sources call for a 5-3/8" push rod, not a 5-5/8".
I can get the pushrod and manifold gasket from MAC. I didn't notice if they had fuel pump. Is pump the same as 85hp? Is there any difference in output pressure? What's a good source for new/rebuilt pump. Does anyone sell rebuild kit with diaphram not affected by Obamanol?

[ken ct]

I got my dimentions out of the Green Bible,where did you get yours. ken ct.Have no idea where you will find a pump. ken ct. lol

[KiWinUS]

Originally Posted by ken ct

Aluminum intake uses a rod 5.625 = 5 5/8" cast iron intake uses a rod 6.375 = 6 3/8" have both. ken ct.

This guy has no idea !!! All he,s about is shafting other people here on the barn or anywhere he can with his junk !
I sure would like to find one of them "cast Iron v8/60" intakes he,s talkin about !!! now thats a rare piece !!!! Like not even made !!

[Gary in La.]

Hey KiWinUS, I'm like you ,having seen many V8-60 engines and having owned quite a few of them over the years have NEVER seen one with a cast iron intake. But in the 1949 "orange bible" and in the 1950 "green bible" they list such an animal. In my May '41 parts book for 1938-1941 it lists only the '37-'39 intakes 52-6520-C and the '40 022A6520. Both use the pushrod 52-9400B which is 6 3/8" long. I also checked the V8-60 push rods I have in my stock and they are 6 3/8" long.
They list the same 2 intakes in all 3 books. But the "green bible" lists the 2 different pushrods. 52-9400A (5.625" for aluminum) and 52-9400B (6.375" for cast iron).
Talk about CONTRADICTION.

[KiWinUS]

Ya just cant beat experience like yours Gary !!
Thanks so much !!
Cheers
Tony

[HCO41]

Maybe we should write our own book on these manifolds and push rods. Ken, I got the dimensions dimensions from MAC's parts catalog. After checking other sources, it turns out their dimension (5-3/8"), is wrong. I have sent them a message pointing out the error.
Gary, I've found the same contraditions. I only have the green book and it shows the part numbers for the push rods as you described. I'm waiting for MAC's to get back to me, since they're the only source I've found. He'll, I don't know if there's one in the car or if it's any good. I just want to have the parts before I tear into it.
Thanks again for the help. Love the car, don't like the 60h.p.! Trouble is it's a rust free matching date codes and bell housing/frame numbers car.

[flatjack9]

I've got 6 or 8 of the V8-60's sitting around, but really haven't messed much with them. The fuel pump is the same as was used on 34 and 35 85 hp engines, but the top is rotated to accomodate the fuel line hookup. I've got a bunch of NOS push rods too. The fuel pump can be rebuilt with modern parts so it will live with today's gas.

[Gary in La.]

OK curiosity got the best of me. I dug out my June 1937 parts catalog and found this.
Only 1 intake listed and it is the same P/N 52-6520C. BUT this book shows 2 pushrods for 1937.
52-9400-AR (5 5/8")
52-9400-B (6 3/8")
No further explanation as to application. Possibly the very FIRST V8-60 engines had a cast iron intake? The short pushrod does't show up again until the 1949 and 1950 parts books which we all know have numerous errors in part numbers and applicability due to the phasing in of later alternates.

[HCO41]

I looked at another source, "The '37 Ford Book", published by The Early Ford V-8 Club. Apparently there is two aluminum intakes. Part number 52-6520-B was released May 11, 1936. This unit was superseded by part number 52-6520-C, released July 20, 1936, with minor changes to the original, namely, the fuel pump boss was cast at a 30 degree angle to the center line of the manifold. (The original was parallel).
The only reference to a cast iron intake was PN 52-6520-C2. This unit is described as "a WWII era service replacement, never used in production". Unfortunately I found no info. on push rods or their length. Makes me wonder if there's a lot of NOS push rods that there may never be a use for.
Are we having fun yet!!

[4port]

For all the non believers out there I have a cast iron intake and a cast aluminum oil pan for a 60hp. The oil pan part number cast in is 52P 6676 B3. I will dig out the intake and post some photos of both.

[KiWinUS]

4port I too have a cast aluminum oil pan , I will check to see if the numbers are the same . I believe it also has some French writing on it .