The Ford Barn

V12Bill · 01-20-2019, 07:22 PM

I was watching the Barret-Jackson Auctions last night when one of the "expert" commentators said that if you had an old vehicle and expected to make it home at the end of the day, you had to be a mechanic. That is why people "improve" their vehicles by putting in late model drive trains, there much more reliable. To which I might add BS!!

With uninformed people handing out advice like that to other uninformed people, it is no wonder that the old car market is crashing!

fortyfords · 01-20-2019, 07:26 PM

amen

63tango · 01-20-2019, 07:29 PM

Im with ya, total B.S. Im sick of seeing LS engines in cars that should have a flathead.

34pickup · 01-20-2019, 08:31 PM

I guess it was only mechanics that drove from coast to coast in the old days!

1ton · 01-20-2019, 08:35 PM

The guy that made the comment can't keep his car running

papanomad · 01-20-2019, 09:34 PM

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had to be a millennial.

31Abone · 01-20-2019, 11:04 PM

They ran good in the day and if will run good now if maintained proper ..I hate to see smallblock garbage in a antique car..So many 32 33 34 fords ruined by hot rodders,..this should get folks dander up..go on ebay so many hot rods for sale and few original cars.sc,

Lawrie · 01-21-2019, 01:17 AM

Our 33 draged our caravan all the way to Ayers rock and back ,no dramas 7000klms

ford38v8 · 01-21-2019, 02:07 AM

There is some truth in what the guy said, we just don't want to hear it from the likes of him. Anyone who isn't familiar with the mechanics of his vintage car is blind foolish to set out on a trip alone. Besides camaraderie, another reason lots of guys travel in caravan, is to avail themselves of each other's assistance when one of them inevitably breaks down. Back in the day, however, city and country folk alike had more mechanical ability than the average boy toy owner has today, and that assessment includes those with garbage truck engines. Anyone disputing that, please recall those enthusiasts in your acquaintance who keep a set of Taiwan Metric wrenches in their trunks, "just in case".

51 MERC-CT · 01-21-2019, 04:57 AM

Sorry but I did not see any of the Auction because I had better things to do, one of which was working on my "old vehicle" to help assure that it would get to where I wanted to go in a safer and more reliable fashion.

markdtn · 01-21-2019, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ford38v8

There is some truth in what the guy said, we just don't want to hear it from the likes of him. Anyone who isn't familiar with the mechanics of his vintage car is blind foolish to set out on a trip alone. Besides camaraderie, another reason lots of guys travel in caravan, is to avail themselves of each other's assistance when one of them inevitably breaks down. Back in the day, however, city and country folk alike had more mechanical ability than the average boy toy owner has today, and that assessment includes those with garbage truck engines. Anyone disputing that, please recall those enthusiasts in your acquaintance who keep a set of Taiwan Metric wrenches in their trunks, "just in case".

I can see this one a few different ways. I agree that really original cars should not be cut up and should be left alone. BUT. Sometimes being hot rodded means the car is being used and driven instead of rusting away. I don't have anything LS powered that didn't come factory that way but I have done fuel injected swaps in a number of cars-but kept it in the same engine family. It is amazing the improvement in drivability and mileage from a fuel injected swap. Almost all of it could be undone with very little trace. I have never been stranded in one of those cars. To me it makes them more fun to drive. Car guys go from purist to custom and mod everything. I think I have ruffled a few feathers at tractor shows with my 2N with a flathead that is very period correct. I try not to get too upset at people even if what they do makes no sense to me-I can at least appreciate the effort.

russcc · 01-21-2019, 09:40 AM

51 Merc-Ct hit the nail one the head. Building them, keeping them running and getting there, problems or not are all part of it.

4t8v8 · 01-21-2019, 09:52 AM

Tried to watch it three times and gave up. Decided it was for people with more money than brains.

Vintage Copper 47 · 01-21-2019, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 4t8v8

Tried to watch it three times and gave up. Decided it was for people with more money than brains.

YEP.. very annoying.. Someone needs to tell Wayne Carini that his shows are starting to become Barret-Jackson light...

I'm not interested in seeing cars that cost more than a modern navy vessel..

big job · 01-22-2019, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintage Copper 47

YEP.. very annoying.. Someone needs to tell Wayne Carini that his shows are starting to become Barret-Jackson light...

I'm not interested in seeing cars that cost more than a modern navy vessel..

Well said; I don't look at new truck adds I don't watch money bags Jackson
and why - at my age no way in hell I can finance a $50,000 F250. they figure I won't live long enough ta pay for it period. my super deluxe does everything
i wish for. Only one thing maybe someday a South Wind heater mine is
wimpy, other than that, the car rules its got more power than a Judge and I
ain't got no so called modern junk on it either. These people think that putting
transistors in a toaster makes it that dreaded 'modern' word. sick puppies

Seth Swoboda · 01-21-2019, 10:06 AM

Barrett-Jackson is garbage. I haven't watched that s**t show in years. It's all TV hype and fantasy.

mhsprecher · 01-21-2019, 10:09 AM

I suspect that anyone who puts the megabucks into a new drivetrain could spend a fraction of that and get a very nicely running original car. Problem is they want power brakes, power steering, automatic transmission, air conditioning and more comfortable seats. The experience we go for is different than what they want.

I love original cars and have a few. I did see a 1949 Ford with a 302 in it for sale recently. It was restored to stock appearance and really looked nice. One of the few times I was tempted by a car with an updated engine.

V12Bill · 01-21-2019, 10:19 AM

I watched the B-J auction to see how stock cars were faring. I saw a 1940 Plymouth 4 door that was nicely restored to stock with a "301 " engine. I'm not a mopar fan, but I think they were 201 cid. Very few stock cars other than Porsche, Ferrari, Rolls etc. Mostly a display of how we can destroy a 30's or 40's car with a new, better chrome plated engine.

51 MERC-CT · 01-21-2019, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by V12Bill

I watched the B-J auction to see how stock cars were faring. I saw a 1940 Plymouth 4 door that was nicely restored to stock with a "301 " engine. I'm not a mopar fan, but I think they were 201 cid. Very few stock cars other than Porsche, Ferrari, Rolls etc. Mostly a display of how we can destroy a 30's or 40's car with a new, better chrome plated engine.

You can check the results for "stock" or semi-stock personalized cars.
For example this '38 personalized 4dr convertible.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...E-SEDAN-224705

And the '40 stock Plymouth with the erroneous "301" engine.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...E-SEDAN-224537

rotorwrench · 01-21-2019, 11:24 AM

An "EX" is a connotation for "former" and a "Spert" is a drip under pressure. So much for Experts. The old cars were good enough for Grandpa but they do have some limitations. They will never be a "New" car no matter what you do to change them. If anything, late model running gear will make them more dangerous.

01-20-2019, 07:22 PM	#1
V12Bill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mt. Holly,NJ Posts: 1,822	Old cars I was watching the Barret-Jackson Auctions last night when one of the "expert" commentators said that if you had an old vehicle and expected to make it home at the end of the day, you had to be a mechanic. That is why people "improve" their vehicles by putting in late model drive trains, there much more reliable. To which I might add BS!! With uninformed people handing out advice like that to other uninformed people, it is no wonder that the old car market is crashing!

01-20-2019, 07:26 PM	#2
fortyfords Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: faucett, mo Posts: 419	Re: Old cars amen

01-20-2019, 07:29 PM	#3
63tango Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 251	Re: Old cars Im with ya, total B.S. Im sick of seeing LS engines in cars that should have a flathead.

01-20-2019, 08:31 PM	#4
34pickup Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Huntsville Al Posts: 1,526	Re: Old cars I guess it was only mechanics that drove from coast to coast in the old days! __________________ Matt 24:36-41

01-20-2019, 08:35 PM	#5
1ton Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: North Aurora,Il. Posts: 154	Re: Old cars The guy that made the comment can't keep his car running

01-20-2019, 09:34 PM	#6
papanomad Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: clear lake, iowa Posts: 157	Re: Old cars Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) had to be a millennial.

01-20-2019, 11:04 PM	#7
31Abone Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Big pine Ca 93513 Posts: 797	Re: Old cars They ran good in the day and if will run good now if maintained proper ..I hate to see smallblock garbage in a antique car..So many 32 33 34 fords ruined by hot rodders,..this should get folks dander up..go on ebay so many hot rods for sale and few original cars.sc,

01-21-2019, 01:17 AM	#8
Lawrie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Qld, Australia Posts: 4,215	Re: Old cars Our 33 draged our caravan all the way to Ayers rock and back ,no dramas 7000klms

01-21-2019, 02:07 AM	#9
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 6,645	Re: Old cars There is some truth in what the guy said, we just don't want to hear it from the likes of him. Anyone who isn't familiar with the mechanics of his vintage car is blind foolish to set out on a trip alone. Besides camaraderie, another reason lots of guys travel in caravan, is to avail themselves of each other's assistance when one of them inevitably breaks down. Back in the day, however, city and country folk alike had more mechanical ability than the average boy toy owner has today, and that assessment includes those with garbage truck engines. Anyone disputing that, please recall those enthusiasts in your acquaintance who keep a set of Taiwan Metric wrenches in their trunks, "just in case". __________________ Alan

01-21-2019, 04:57 AM	#10
51 MERC-CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Hartford, Ct Posts: 5,898	Re: Old cars Sorry but I did not see any of the Auction because I had better things to do, one of which was working on my "old vehicle" to help assure that it would get to where I wanted to go in a safer and more reliable fashion. __________________ DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES

01-21-2019, 09:40 AM	#12
russcc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,871	Re: Old cars 51 Merc-Ct hit the nail one the head. Building them, keeping them running and getting there, problems or not are all part of it.

01-21-2019, 09:52 AM	#13
4t8v8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 524	Re: Old cars Tried to watch it three times and gave up. Decided it was for people with more money than brains.

01-21-2019, 10:06 AM	#16
Seth Swoboda Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 3,795	Re: Old cars Barrett-Jackson is garbage. I haven't watched that s**t show in years. It's all TV hype and fantasy.

01-21-2019, 10:09 AM	#17
mhsprecher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Takoma Park, MD Posts: 2,817	Re: Old cars I suspect that anyone who puts the megabucks into a new drivetrain could spend a fraction of that and get a very nicely running original car. Problem is they want power brakes, power steering, automatic transmission, air conditioning and more comfortable seats. The experience we go for is different than what they want. I love original cars and have a few. I did see a 1949 Ford with a 302 in it for sale recently. It was restored to stock appearance and really looked nice. One of the few times I was tempted by a car with an updated engine. Last edited by mhsprecher; 01-21-2019 at 09:09 PM.

01-21-2019, 10:19 AM	#18
V12Bill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mt. Holly,NJ Posts: 1,822	Re: Old cars I watched the B-J auction to see how stock cars were faring. I saw a 1940 Plymouth 4 door that was nicely restored to stock with a "301 " engine. I'm not a mopar fan, but I think they were 201 cid. Very few stock cars other than Porsche, Ferrari, Rolls etc. Mostly a display of how we can destroy a 30's or 40's car with a new, better chrome plated engine.

01-21-2019, 11:24 AM	#20
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,436	Re: Old cars An "EX" is a connotation for "former" and a "Spert" is a drip under pressure. So much for Experts. The old cars were good enough for Grandpa but they do have some limitations. They will never be a "New" car no matter what you do to change them. If anything, late model running gear will make them more dangerous.