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Old 09-30-2012, 12:03 PM   #1
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A buddy of mine just bought a 31 pickup. It has an indented firewall & the radiator cover is all stainless with out the body paint color insert on the top, the way most passenger cars do & we were wondering if it is correct or not for a 31 pickup, also he thinks the front fender bead should continue around the front of the fender but I'm thinking it would end near the front the way my 30 Tudor fenders do. Anyone have some input on it?
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Old 09-30-2012, 01:58 PM   #2
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The radiator shell should be black and I think it may actually be different slightly froma passanger car-maybe. The fenders shouldbe like your tudors as the 'eyebrow' fenders stopped in early 1930.

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Old 09-30-2012, 02:13 PM   #3
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Early "late 31's" like mine had the indented firewall, etc. but many, again like mine, still had the canvass insert in the top, later they had all-steel tops. Original radiator shells were painted, not stainless.
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Old 09-30-2012, 03:19 PM   #4
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The radiator shell should be black and I think it may actually be different slightly froma passanger car-maybe. The fenders shouldbe like your tudors as the 'eyebrow' fenders stopped in early 1930.

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The radiator shell should be regular steel and painted black but it should be the shape of the 1930 passenger car radiator shell not the 1931 (that is to say, no indentation at top). Comments on fenders are correct.

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Thanx to replies for the info.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:41 PM   #6
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The all steel radiator should have the stainless, not blue Ford emblem, however. The headlight buckets are also steel rather than SS.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:12 AM   #7
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My '31 Pickup was rebuilt/restored (or whatever you want to call it) in the late 80's. It came out of "surgery" wearing, among other things, a (1930) stainless radiator shell with the blue Ford emblem. This, of course, wasn't the only thing that was probably not correct, but I only mention it to point out that there have been 80+ years of owner improvements/modifications to contend with.

My rig also has the indented firewall, all steel top, and a narrow bed.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:52 AM   #8
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I only mentioned the emblem and light buckets as he seemed to want a "baseline." My truck has non-original stuff, too.
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I only mentioned the emblem and light buckets as he seemed to want a "baseline." My truck has non-original stuff, too.
You are absolutely correct. When I got mine, I had no real baseline to compare it to.

I forgot to mention that mine has painted light buckets (as it should). Why those weren't changed to stainless when the radiator shell was is anybody's guess!
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The all steel radiator should have the stainless, not blue Ford emblem, however. The headlight buckets are also steel rather than SS.
I am sure you know but just forgot to include the tail light buckets in the "steel" with black paint category.

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Old 10-01-2012, 02:17 PM   #11
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Mine has all the shiney pieces that it shouldn't have including Cowl lights!!! thanks to a previous owner and wasn't the cowl band supposed to be painted body color as well.

The good thing is a lot of these parts can be painted black and they would look like original steel

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Mine has all the shiney pieces that it shouldn't have including Cowl lights!!! thanks to a previous owner and wasn't the cowl band supposed to be painted body color as well.

The good thing is a lot of these parts can be painted black and they would look like original steel

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The MAFCA/MARC judging standards (must admit my copy is not current) say body color for the cowl band. The book "The Model A Ford As Henry Built It" says "The cowl strip was at first painted black but it was soon changed to body color" (pg 176). Note this quote is in a section on 1930-31 Commercial Vehicles so "at first" would mean in 1930.

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Met a fellow at the New England meet that had a late 1930 CCPU just like my avatar, (Rubelite with tacomia creme wheels), but his had a SS radiator shell, black headlight buckets and body color cowl band. He said the truck belonged to his great uncle and he learned to drive on it when he was a kid. He stated that the SS shell was original from the factory.
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Al in NY, maybe it was a special order (the SS shell). Makes me wonder if perhaps a guy back then could do a dealer option to have a SS shell or even headlights.
Just a thought...But if that were so, it might explain the anomalies like this fellow's SS shell.
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My '31 PU has an SS Rad Shell, ('30 style), black headlight buckets. I've also been told (by the guy thad restored it, who got it from his Dad who bought it new) that's the way it came from the factory, but have no way to accurately verify that. (lots of heresay there!)

Now on my '31 AA 280A that I had as a kid, it had a SS Rad Shell, with SS headlight buckets, and there's every reason to believe that it came that way from the factory. Dad bought the truck in '49 with less than 10K miles on it.
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