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Old 03-10-2016, 10:21 PM   #1
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I am going to run out to the LA Roadster show with a bunch of guys from Smithfield, VA of which there is a thread in the HAMB. I will be gone 3+ weeks, so I thought I would chronical everything here on the 'Barn starting with the prep of my roadster up until the day I return home. Something like I did on my run out to Bonneville but do it here this time.

So, to get started, another 'Barner, Gabby here on this forum, Earl, will be riding shotgun. I have started getting my roadster ready. I have a list .....


Different wheels and tires
Oil, filter, grease
Plugs and wires
Paint my hood
Run through every nut and bolt
Drain the rearend
Adjust brakes, check brake fluid
Fresh antifreeze (thermoscwere replaced last fall)
Pack all my spare parts
Water pumps
Distributor
Tools, rear axle puller, spare axle, axle keys
Grease, fresh set of plugs
Yamalube
Cleaning supplies
Spare starter, starter solenoid
Spare carbs, rebuilt kits
Full gasket set, fuses
Extra gas lines, electric fuel pump, fuel regulator
Spare oil, brake fluid, antifreeze, grease gun, rainex
Jumper cables, tarp for rainy o-nights
Floor jack, jack stand, lug wrench, fire extinguisher Jumper cables, hand cleaner, rags, towels

OK - by now you are probably wondering where an I going to put all this stuff?!?!

So, tires - I have a fresh set of wheels and tires ready to go but they are wide five and I am presently running 5.5 inch pattern. My present tires are showing some wear up front after 8 years or so of driving. So, in order to use them on my car I bought a set of adapters from American racing for the front f100 hubs and I have a nice set of wide five rear hubs. This stuff is all for a Mod A p-up project that is presently on the back burner. A buddy of mine has a set of '37 spider caps that I have cleaned up but have plenty of patina ...

Next up is to install them and order some new cloth wires .. .
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Old 03-10-2016, 10:36 PM   #2
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That's quite a list Tom. But that should be a nice trip. Good luck to you. Hope to see you there. Mark.

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Hey, Mark - let's make a day and time and you are on ....
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watching this space...
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:14 AM   #5
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Tom,
Just remember all the extra stuff you packed for the Bonneville run was used on other peoples cars. The roadster performed almost flawlessly. Tighten this tighten that was all it needed.
Safe travels to LA. That should be a fun trip. I'll be following from the barn.
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:49 AM   #7
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Sound like a truly wonderful adventure. A memory to have and share for a life time.
Hope your trip goes smooth and enjoyable. I look forward to seeing your posts about the trip. Are you hooking up with the "Gray Beard" group?
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Tom, you are living the dream and I'm looking forward to reading the posts. Safe travels. Steve
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Tom,
Why don't you publish your route using a map program.
That way if something breaks along the way and you need a tool or tow we can help.
I did a cross country in an AH Bugeye Sprite in my youth - not good for the sunburn,back or knees but it was fun.

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Run Tom Run!! .....Wish I was going along!! Just itching for another opportunity/chance/excuse to make another crosscountry run . Have a great trip and keep us posted on how things go as much as possible.
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Stop by here if I am on your route. I always left out of Phoenix way before dawn for the final leg. Going across the desert at dawn with a long shadow of the roadster chasing ahead of me was always great. I used to call Palm Springs the valley of death because of the heat, especially if returning Sunday evening. Take a cooler with water.
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Be sure and take some matches and a small mirror. You never know....
And, if you have a permit to carry, make sure it's legal in all the states you enter.

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Tom,
All I can say is, "Have way too much fun, okay?"
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Thanks for all the offers and kind words, fellas. As far as the route out to the show, we go west on 460, hit rt 81 south then on to Rt 40 west for the long haul to Calif, taking Rt 10 to San Dimas and our hotel. I will post where we'll be stopping roughly as we get closer. Coming back we are kind of winging it, probably taking in more of Rt 66 west of Missouri, a stop in New Mexico, and hopefully meet up with as many like minded people as we can .....

Just an quick update on my wheels and tire setup. 3 spider cap clips were broken off on my rims. I got the replacement kit and Dave at House of Fab had a rivet tool and popped the three on for me. Tomorrow is my Dads 92nd birthday so Sunday will be the day for the mounting, and draining and refilling the rear end fluid ...
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Thanks for all the offers and kind words, fellas. As far as the route out to the show, we go west on 460, hit rt 81 south then on to Rt 40 west for the long haul to Calif, taking Rt 10 to San Dimas and our hotel. I will post where we'll be stopping roughly as we get closer. Coming back we are kind of winging it, probably taking in more of Rt 66 west of Missouri, a stop in New Mexico, and hopefully meet up with as many like minded people as we can .....

Just an quick update on my wheels and tire setup. 3 spider cap clips were broken off on my rims. I got the replacement kit and Dave at House of Fab had a rivet tool and popped the three on for me. Tomorrow is my Dads 92nd birthday so Sunday will be the day for the mounting, and draining and refilling the rear end fluid ...
It's good to hear you're planning on refilling the rearend; your list only mentioned draining it!
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Enjoyed the Bonneville trip with the boners. You put some miles on her that time . Your reports on the trip home were great !
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Thanks, Pipes - I will try and do the same this time around!

And Max, thanks for the reminder - I think?!?!?!
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spare tire/tubes??....tire pump??....hook up with Al Casteen as he's making the run, too....not sure of his dates, tho.....and have fun....Mike
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Hey, Mike - I am going with Al Casteen and the gang. No, the only thing I don't carry is a spare. With everything else I carry, there is no room!
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Have a blast Tom, sure wish I was going with ya.
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Have a safe trip, I know it will be enjoyable. Life is good driving a Hot Rod
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Tom....cool, sounds like you guys have a plan ...fun times in CA...lol...Mike
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It doesn't get better than that. May it all be smoooth!! Looks likes you believe (as I do), If I bring it I won't need it. So, you got room for one of those cheap yellow tow straps? Just to find safer ground should there be an occurrence.

I keep one in my pickup truck, and the starter quit on me, in my driveway!
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Thanks, I hope it all goes smoothly but the old be prepared boy scout in me runs pretty stribf.

What I have is a very long ratcheting tie down strap for a tow rope. I hope I do not need it!
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Couple of things more. Get some good wrap around sun glasses. You need to keep your eyes from drying out. I made some wind wings from plexiglass and some strap. I attached them to the stantion studs. Get a good set of noise cancelling ear protectors. The noise gets to you after while. A small battery powered air compressor would help if the tire is not damaged badly.
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Some good ideas here - thought of getting the jump starter pack that you can inflate a tire with, I all ready wear hearing aids, and if I place my arm in the right location out of the window opening, I look cool and most of the wind uscall ready cancelled out .....
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Worked on swapping out my rear hubs today. Started on the passenger side and the 39 rear drums I have really have a lot of meat on them. So much so that I really had to battle to get the pass side on but I finally did. Forget tjecdrivervside - I could not get the driver side drum on no matter what I did and I tried so many ways/tricks. It would just not go on. So, I will try to find someone close to me who can cut/shave the drum enough to get it installed or, buy another set of adapters and got that route. Bummer ......
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Rather than turning the drums, I would find someone that can arc the linings.
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True, flatjack, but I would probably arc new linings vs the present linings whick still have plenty left on them. I'll give it a couple days before making a final decision on what to do ...
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If you measure at 9 and 3 o'clock if less then drum, the lining are to long.
I think they should be no longer then 3/4 "from Top rivet. Look at old lining.
My guess they hit on top ,chamfer the ends to make shorter.
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Still working on the drum situation. I actually got another pair of rear wide 5 drums that had a larger inside diameter than my present set and they would not go into n, so I am going to cut one if the drums for expediency sake. I do not want to make this my life's work. I have too many other projects to get to ....

Speaking of projects, I am going to go off-topic here to my 40 Pickup project that was in the works before the 32 5-window that I am presently working on. Anyway, I have a bed that is in pretty good shape for my purposes save for the lower 6" of the passenger side on this bed. I looked n vain for the section I needed. A new bedside is expensive and way too "nice" for the rest of the bed. So, I decided to make what I need.

Using the driver side, I made a pattern of the area over the rear axle. From the lower back lip of that area I need only 8" going back before finding good metal. Going forward I need right up to the back panel of the bed, 25.5". So, got started today with my pattern and so far, so good. It will be in two pieces and to be truthful, I have done the easy stuff up to now .... Thanks to Dave at House of Fab for giving me a hand and using some of his equipment. ..
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Tom, we'll be waiting for you! Have fun!
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Thanks, Nick!
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I have a shoe arcing machine. Someone near you must also have one. I would sure arc the shoes before cutting the drums. Are you using 39-41 or 42-48? Maybe you could find smaller shoes. If I have some I could send you I would. I have a stack of linings also. Maybe you could get some put on. How about call C&G , Mac's and get different shoes?
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Strange you can not adjust the shoes in far enough to fit.

arch for best contact.

imo for whatever that is not worth,

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As far as I know, there is no one near me that arches shoes. The cost of cutting one drum is rated by shop hours at $80/hr - I nearly fell over!
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The shoes wont be arched right, but you should be able to get the drum on.

i would not cut the drum to fit the shoes but vice-versa. .80 over at best on the drums.
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Here are a couple pictures from our Pomona Planning lunch in Smithfield last week.
Tom didn't get the memo to drive his car!
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Tom, Have a safe trip. Get Lo-Jack or something like it.
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Actually Al was kind enough to set up the meeting when I was going to be over that way. Smithfield is a ferry ride away and a 40 minute ride from me so I am not over that way often. I actually have to return a mockup motor over that way so I was in my DD truck ....
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I got the pickup panel all together and finished enough to take over to my buddy who will put it on for me. I will post more pics in tomorrow but here is one you can check out ....

I also got one of the rear drums cut and it slips on so I will get to work on cleaning, greasing, and installing everything tomorrow. Then it is on to the front hubs to repack the bearings and drop the rear end fluid while that is all being done .... between my 32 build, the pickup panel fab, and the prepping of the roadster for the trip, I feel like I am back in college, trying to squeeze 30 hours of stuff into a 24 hour day but I am having a blast!
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The passenger side drum that went on right from the get go is really tight. I am going to try the one drum that was cut just a little more than the drum that's on there and see what happens ....

Ok, promised pics on how the panel for my 40 pickup came together. I will post all of them and then tell you what I learned/did wrong ....
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A couple more pics .....

Ok, issues/problems/mistakes:

1 - I should not have made that first bend - it messed up trying to do the other bends
2 - you should probably start from the inside bends, working your way out
3 - you cannot try and "meld" bends - I had bent up both the inner and outer piece and that was a mistake, thinking I could overlap and weld them together - NOT! I ended up trimming off the bends on the small piece and welding it directly to the larger piece as you saw ....
4 - also, the major bends should be done on the small piece - easier to handle and make the bends with. You should have seen me making the bends on that big piece - LOLOLOLOL!!!!
5 - finally, your welds should be on an outside corner, not an inside one. It is easier to "dress" the weld on an outside one.

Many thanks to Dave over at the House of Fab who allowed me free range with the metal brake and a very cool magnitized brake unit that I cannot wait to use again - a really cool tool ....

Can't wait for the next piece to do - this really worked out because you can't see this part unless you remove the passenger rear wheel - it's under the wheel well and the tire blocks its view - perfect for my first attempt!
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Tom:
What I did to arc my newly riveted shoes was get a 60 grit sanding belt, cut it & place inside the drum then just run the shoe back & forth until it fits.
Good luck on your run. First year that I won't be going. boo hoo my favorite show of all. It is about a 1600 to 2000 mile round trip from eastern Ore. to LA & back. Getting tooo old for the 32 roadster on those lousy Cal hi-ways.
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Hmmmmm - might have to try that if all else fails ...... thanks!
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Continued working on the roadster prep but nothing ever goes easy, right? Removed the front tires, my f-100 front and removed hub to repack the bearings. Passenger side went well but the driver side drum had an external weight that interfeared with the wide five adapter as it would not go flat to the drum. The f-100 front drum brakes were the same from 53-66 and I bought the newest drums when I first built my roadster. Fortunately I had another original pair of drums and put that one on instead. But, another problem cropped up as the newer drum was very thick and the lug nuts only screwed on half way, but the older is thinner and allows the lugnuts to go on all the way. So, got the other drum and prepped it to be installed but ran out of time.

The last pic is of my 32 5-window project chassis taken from the mezzanine in my garage .... just a teaser ....
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Front brakes are now all adjusted, fresh rearend fluid installed but I will have to cut another drum as the fit of the one side that went on initially is too tight. Got that in the works .....

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I was not going to go back to the place that charged me $105 to cut a drum so I started doing some research. Nearest place to me is in Roanoke, VA - about 5 hours away. Made a few phone calls and I have made arrangements to at least get my drum to Roanoke. The fellow who is going to cut the drum is going to Charlotte Spring Auto Fair on Friday - I will be there on Thursday. But, he has a buddy who is vending there Thurs-Sat. I will drop off the drum to him on Thursday and hopefully take a ride to Roanoke early next week to visit a few folks whom I have befriended in the last few years and pick up my drum.

Geesh - what we do not go through when working on these old cars ....
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Got my second drum all squared away - had to cut it a full 1/8". But, now everything is reassembled and adjusted. I just need to bleed the brakes and this portion of the run through for the trip to LA is done .....

I keep chipping away at it ....
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Man, I hate to hear that you had to cut anything like that much.......that's TWICE the normal, legal limit. SOMETHIN' wrong with those linings, it seems. DD
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So did I but it had to be done. I was not going to get into a long drawn out battle. The car stoppwd quite well before swapping drums and I am not expecting anything duffetent now. There is plenty of meat left on these drums I can tell you that. But - believe me, if there are any anomalies I find out about before I go, and I will drive it on some trips to be sure, I will go to plan "B" ....
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Twice I've encountered overcut drum scenarios (by 'green' service mechanics who thought they could get away with something) The one damaged two parked cars. The limits are real. Take care my friend.
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Got my brakes all squared away with a some help from my buddy John, johnrodz here and on the Hamb. Just in time too as there's a show in town in Williamsburg this weekend and I will be leading the Friday night cruise with it.

I also installed balancing beads in the tires and she rides smooth, real smooth! I will post a couple pics in the next day or so ....
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Got all my brakes squared away and drove the car extensively this past weekend. All is working quite well!
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Glad your running again, been long enough!! Westward Ho!
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You bet - I was in withdrawels since this is my only running hot rod! Lol!
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OK - so I am back in withdrawels. Took the car ro a shop open house in Richmond, johnrodz riding shotgun, and we noticed a definite vibration by the right rear tire. Once back home, I investigated the problem and determined the rear drums were fine, no axle problems, save for a bent rim. So, I had 2 extras and with some help from johnrodz we came up with a method of checking runout. Both of mine were bad, looked at 5 at House of Fab and one turned out to be a possible but more for a spare. Checked out several others and struck out, 3 from another friend and 5 five additional at another buddies place. Struck out on all counts.

I will be looking at another stash of rims tomorrow and another new friend has one he's leaving out for me. I have also had multiple offers here on this forum such that if all else fails, I will going a more long distance route. Thanks guys - I really appreciate it.

I did give the car a full chassis lube, working at going through what tools to bring, and have started emptying and organizing the trunk. Much to do yet but I am making progress, just slowly ....
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Glad you can get it right now. You can not over do prep.
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Finally found two rims that are real nice and ready to go and another that can be used as a temporary spare unless I find someone who straightens rims - whew! I did look at 8 more today from my buddy Joe - took them all home and the first one I picked up was a beaut. So, cleaned it up, painted it, and got my tire mounted. I am back in business ....
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Sorry for not posting in a while - been busy with life and such. I have nearly sorted out my brake problems - just have a pulsating pedal when braking having to do with the front brakes. I will get that sorted out shortly.

I changed the oil, removed the top and cleaned it up, glued some of the piping that was sagging, and resealed it up front over top of the windshield. Since this car used to be a 5-window, the fiberglass top (which was crafted by the previous owner - I just added some wood for some stiffening and areas to insert some side curtains) is a lift off and has an aluminum connecting piece up front that attaches tot he top of the windshield surround by three small bolts. Along with that strip is a rubber gasket that keeps the water out. I noticed some drips entering the cabin as of late so I added some new weatherstripping. We'll find out if it will work with the first rain storm ....

I also checked all of the bolts and such underneath, the FE and RE, got the oil changed, repacked the trunk with all of my spare parts, tools (I cut down from 4 to 2 toolboxes), updated my GPS, bought a new road atlas, and I will have my battery powered air ratchet and drill with some drill bits, and the list goes on, even beyond what I first posted. I will be leaving in less than 2 weeks - can't believe it's almost here!

I will chronicle everything here so stay tuned - only thing left to do is swap out my front drums (long story), install some fresh plugs, pack and go ..... naaaaa, I'm not excited .....
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Thank you - had the car out today and it really went through a shakedown run - it absolutely poured buckets on the way home from a picnic with some good buds of mine about 40 miles away. Had some interstate, local roads, plenty of rough roadwsy. No windshield or top leaks and the car never missed a beat with all the water on the ground, what came down, and the rough roads. One slight leak around the vent pipe drain. I will check that this week. Not too shabby and I think we are ready .....

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So I have what will be the stops on our way out to LA ....

6/9 - Harriman, TN
6/10 - Russellville, AR
6/11 - Tucumcari. NM
6/12 - Kingman, AZ

If you live anywhere near these stops, PM me and maybe you can stop by and visit. I think we have 5-6 cars starting in our caravan and we get larger as we go along. We would love to meet up with as many 'Barn and HAMB folks as possible - it's always great to meet members in person .....

Remember that there is a thread on the HAMB as well by HamtownAl with "Smithfield Express" in the title ....
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I'll be following your posts and wishing I was along for the ride. Have fun - that goes without saying - and be safe. If you bump into Don Dillard tell him I said hey.

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Lee - I will do my best to have enough fun for the two of us but you know I would rather you be with us as well and join in on the fun .....
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woooo....whatcha doing during the week before the show??....Mike
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One of the guys who will be out there with us has set up visits to multiple shops each day. I will post pics here and keep y'all updated. I have been to the January show a couple years ago with my buds from Colorado and I have visited many of these shops before but they always have something different and interesting going on so it's always fresh and exciting to see. Sometimes they ask you not to take pics if they are shooting for a Riddler award, grand national roadster show and/or the many other awards. It's great to see the write-ups on these cars when you remember seeing them being constructed up close and personal.
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Don't forget the Early Ford Store in San Dimas. Say hi to Bill and Mike.

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Mike - SoCal on Friday is on the list ....

Lee - we are staying in San Dimas so I imagine we'll be eating b-fast at the nice place just a few doors down from it and dropping by there several times ....
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Had something weird happen today. Seems I popped the bead on the driver side rear tire. Went to lunch with my buds and then off to Walmart to look into a portable jump starter/air compressor. When I got there I noticed the tire was very low. So, I bought the portable jump starter/air compressor, charged it, and aired up the tire. No nails, holes or visible issues, valve is tight. So, I am going to watch it this weekend and see what gives. I was only running about 27 lbs of air so I might have to bump that up a bit and it also may have lost some air during that rainstorm I drove in over the weekend as the right side rear was down about 4 lbs of air as well .... that little air compressor went to work right off the bat!
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I've been looking at those units thinking it might be good to have for our Ontario trip this August.

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The one I got from Walmart has a Stanley label. Should be finished doing its initial charge tomorrow morning. I will let you know how it holds up.....

As for the tire I had to air up that went flat, I filled it to 28 lbs that day and it is still at 28 pounds tonight ...
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So I have what will be the stops on our way out to LA ....

6/9 - Harriman, TN
6/10 - Russellville, AR
6/11 - Tucumcari. NM
6/12 - Kingman, AZ

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That's a long haul from Tucumcari to Kingman, 650 miles. I'd be very careful driving from Flagstaff to Kingman after dusk, LOTS of deer and elk. Good luck!
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Thanks, Boss - I will keep a sharp eye out on that day ....

Air holding well so far in that one rear tire - 30 lbs and steady ....
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We shouldn't be traveling in the dark at all... if all goes well!!

Well, maybe early some mornings... hopefully only somewhat dark at that time!!
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Sounds like you are ready to go. Planning and preparation make a successful trip.
There is plenty for you to do there. If you can make time; be sure to visit the Justis Brothers Museum. It is located a few miles west of the Early Ford Store in San Dimas;
2734 Huntington Dr. Duarte Ca. Thanks for making the trip. Guys like you keep the spirt of the hobby alive.
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I was to the Justice Brothers museum in 2000 while on the 40 Ford is 60 Tour - old man Justice gave the group the tour and he was quite a hoot and very knowledgeable. Quite a place .....
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Good. Glad you know about them. They are one of the main sponsors for the L A Roadster show. Not a lot of people know about their museum, so there won't be a hugh crowd.
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Ok ladies, gents, and children of all ages and that includes you Jared and Elyse (my grands) - my trip starts tomorrow at 6 am. Looking forward to the adventure ......

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Tom, Al, et al, have a great trip to LA and safe journey out and back. I saw a Rolling Bones post on facebook today saying they are also heading to the LA Roadster Show on Thursday morning. Are you all possibly planning to meet up with them at any time along the way?
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JM - no plans that I know of but I know we will run into them for sure .....
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Day 1 - started off at 6 AM and we met up with Al Casteen in his 36 cabriolet, and George in his 39 Ford convertible right on time in Farmville at 8:08. Al is from Smithfield and I am on the other side of the James River so we did not all start from the same location. We then cruised on into Roanoke area to meet up with Tom Richardson and a bunch of guys from the area At Mama's Cafe. Food was great but the company, priceless! These guys drive some really nice iron including 3-4 flathead powered cars so I was in High Cotton with my little flattie!

We then continued down the road but we were not without some hickups. George's car would conk out for no reason and after several attempts he found some deficient wiring. Once we got that squared away, we got rolling pretty good .....

Just before we stopped for the night we visited the Barillaro Speed Shop and these guys really treated us to a friendly greeting, warm hospitality, and some very nice builds they have going on. The beautiful grey roadster was an old hotrod that they resurrected and will be going to the LA Roadster Show as well. I love the color combo ..... The Riv is for the Bobby Alloway Shop as Barillaro is modifying the bumpers and doing some other mods ....

As always it's the friends you make that make this kind of trip all the more enjoyable and memorable .... off at 6AM tomorrow morning ....
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Old 06-09-2016, 07:46 PM   #84
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More Barillaro pics ....

As for my hot rod, she ran great but after all the trouble I had finding straight rims I think I bent one today. I hit a rise in the road at 70 that I swear put us airborne for a sec. After that, I have a vibration that I guess I will have to live with for the duration of the trip. Never have I hit anything as bad as that .....
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Thanks for the views, be safe, have fun!!
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Tom, did you throw a wheel weight?

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No, Lee - I use Dynabeads and do not use weights at all ....
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Day 2 - good day, no real problems save for a piece of fuel line I replaced between the mechanical fuel pump and my fuel regulator. The old line was cracked and probably would have made the day but I did not want to chance it.

Hotter today than it was yesterday - as for my flattie, yesterday she ran an average of 22-2400 rpm, from 65-70, 165 temp (+/- 5 degrees) - when you go up a grade, she gets a bit warmer, going down cooler. Engine ran strong the entire day considering the grades we were going up and down on.

Today we ran a bit harder early on - 170 degree temp +/- the 5 degrees, 23-2600 rpm and I did get her up to a pretty good clip at one point. She runs smoother at 2500 (2550 is 75) than 2300. As the day progressed we got pretty warm - mid 90s I would say. Going up grades I was almost touching 180 (I am running 180 thermos) but would quickly drop to 170 when the grade was completed. We then slowed up a bit and the pics of the gauges are from early on.

Initially when the car was built it had a .8 5th gear and 31" rear tires. After the accident the new T5 I bought has a .86 5th gear and I am now running 32" tires. Just that small bit of difference has made the car more responsive going up grades. At one point we were on a 5% grade and I was running at 2300 rpm. I gave it the gas and she easily pulled up to 2600 rpm and it would not do that before the latest combo. I added 1/2 qt of oil today and am at the initial 5 quart level. Again, pretty good I think and the car is surprising a lot of people, including me ....

Gas mileage was pretty good all things considered - 17.25 MPG today. I am very happy with that if you knew the amount of stuff/weight I have in the trunk ....
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Day 3 - this is the third time I am writing this - sometimes I really do hate how this message function works. Anyway, long day today 630 miles - 11 hours. We started at 6:30 and finished at 4:30 after having gained an hour. We separated from Al, Shadow, George, and Randy as we wanted to beat the heat which we were somewhat successful in that it is almost 6:30 and they have not yet arrived ...

Car ran great with the vitals posted yesterday the same as today. Oil pressure was 48 lbs at speed, 20 lbs at hot idle. If you remember I had a problem with this engine losing oil pressure. We thought is was the oil pump but it turned out to be the pressure spring. I installed a 50lb unit at that time and it is still functioning well. However, idling is an issue and I think it is because of the difference of sea level. At home I am only 5' above sea level, here, and we always seems to be going upward, I know I am a lot more. I have raised the idle twice (small amounts) so it will idle to an extent but it will want to die out if I do not give it a little gas. I hope things go back to normal when in LA - if not, I will investigate further ....

I forgot to tell you about an accident I saw yesterday. This happy camper found out that an SUV towing a single axle travel trailer and towing a boat trailer behind it do not mix! It looked like the boat got out of control, whipped around, flipped the travel travel trailer upside down which destroyed it but still attached to the SUV appeared unharmed. No ambulances were about so I am thinking no one got hurt. How people can think they can do these things is beyond me ....

I did get a rock chip on my windshield today - I can't believe it took this long to happen. I have to call Grundy to see if I am covered for one of those guys that comes over and fixes rock chips like I have done on my DD ....

We have another 630 mile day tomorrow, ending up in Kingman, AZ. We hope to start at 5:30 to make it to Kingman by 4:30 .....
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I'm riding along with you buddy. The New Jersey turnpike gave me my windshield rock chip and, oh by the way, ripped the left front shock mount half off, but that's another story. Enjoy the desert.

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We almost bought the farm earlier today ourselves. Guy with a flatbed trailer had his steel wheelbarrow pop out of the trailer. Woman came to a screeching halt, missed it, but the big straight job truck could not stop in time. He wants to come in the center lane as he has no where else to go and is making his move and/but I was there. I just took a peek into the rear view and cut left to the speed lane. Thank God no one was there and the woman who made the hard stop accelerated in front of the truck and came to where I was in the center - like syncopated movements. Close call but it all worked out ....
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whewwww.....good to hear things are going well.....hmmm, i think those two trailers are illegal unless the first is a fifth wheel trailer....just my understanding.....hope your travel thru AZ goes well....watch for elk, etc. ....keep your eyes open, eh??.....Mike
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Good morning Tom. Should be a warm week end when you arrive at Pomona. News says high 80's to 90. Sounds like you are making good time. Not sure if I could make a trip that long. My roadster still rides a little like an old buck board but I like it. Have a safe remainder of the trip. Hope to run in to you there. Not sure if I will be driving mine or my truck. Swap meet vehicle. Mark.
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Hi Everyone, Tom and Earl, I'm squeezed in the back somewhere between some of these supplies, enjoying the signs going by!

Here's a shot of the type of look I know you guys are doing all day long. This is on the 2013 Fall Barner's Tour arranged by TrainGuy. These two car guys have just come back from an early morning blast around the neighboorhood in Phil's 32 hotrod.

Make some more great memories, I'll claim them as being mine when you aren't looking!
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I'm sure Tom will chime in with the real story but a quick update is:
We made it!!
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yeeehawwww.....glad you guys made it.....Mike
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We made it!!
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Day 4 - sorry I did not post yesterday. It was a really long day and the wind was even more fierce across New Mexico and Arizona. My shoulders were killing me by the end of the day as I was holding onto the steering wheel with both hands all day long. I was not alone however, as the big rigs were having just as much if not more trouble. But, during this long day we picked up two more to cruise into Pomona with - Larry in his 32 roadster and Rick driving Larry's 30s banger roadster. The long day also ended up on a really excellent note however, as there were about 15 Kingman, AZ hot rodders there to greet us at the local hot rod cafe. We had a blast meeting them, swapping lies - it was just a great time that ended all too quickly. Thanks for a great time .....
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Earl called yesterday telling me they made it,the smile on his face sitting in that seat says it all!
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Day 5 - our last day of the trip to Pomona was a short day and a fairly quiet one. We crossed the desert no problem and arrived at out hotel in San Dimas at around 11:35. We checked in but our rooms were not yet ready so we cruised on over to the Early Ford Store and hung out drooling all over all the parts they have. We then had some lunch at Roady's just down the block - good food with some great company .... the stories haven't stopped yet and we all get along as if we have known each other for years. Just like minded people enjoying our cars .... priceless ....
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YEE Haw. Now the real fun begins.
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Lee, you have no idea how right you are! Today an LA Roadster Member took us on a tour of 4 shops (which really turned out to be five - will get to that). The best thing to do is to split them up by name.

Marcel's with Luc DeLay was unreal. This is the father and son team who fabricated the Alumacoupe and so many other one off cars, mostly out of aluminum. I did not associate the name until I got there and recognized his work. They are the nicest folks and really rolled out the red carpet for the group. Now, they did have a new, one-off creation in the shop of which they allowed me to photograph but I cannot post it anywhere so I will honor their request. You will have to come visit me and I will show you then ......

But, to top it off, he had a Scarab in his shop - never would I have thought I would be standing next to one and there it was. It was not one of the 3-4 originals (there is some discussion of whether there were only 3 or 4) but one of the newer versions assembled here in the US with panels made in Poland. He was not building it but a guy asked (or rather begged) him to repair his front sheet metal after an accident. I read and read about those cars when I was a kid and there it was! It was a great time there, to be sure ... The shop was behind his house and right in the middle of a beautiful neighborhood and it was a lot smaller than when you see it on TV!
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Shop Tour 2 - Randy's Drag Race Museum - Randy has one of the largest private collections of drag racing material, cars, suits, trophies, etc, and nearly every vehicle was signed by the driver and owner. A really humble and super nice guy, he has a lot of Shirley Muldowney's memorabilia and is personal friends with her and many other drivers and car owners present in his museum. The pics tell the tale with the first few shots of our group parked outside his museum which is situated right next to his home on a 5 acre parcel of land ...
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Now, back behind Randy's Museum he has built a real life diorama of old gas stations in a western-like setting with an array of Dodge vehicles and life-like figures .... and ....

There was Randy's Hot Rod Shop - a really, really cool place where he puts his real magic to work ....

The bright green Olds convertible was part of a two car deal that took both to make the stunning example you see. You also see a rusted hulk of a GTO convertible he has also resurrected - another great job .... the place was filled with all kinds of cool old garage pieces including many old style soda vending machines and so much more. I just do not know where he finds the time to do all that he is doing!
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So, Randy's two different passions served as two locations - we then moved on to Jim Kipp's Private Collection ....

Jim seemed to be a private and humble guy who has been in to cars all his life. His present passion are the 10 little mini blown small blocks he is building for himself, his brother, several race car drivers, and Chip Foose to name a few. I also love the huge slot car track - it just fits the space and I along with several others were itching to try it .....

For the flathead lovers out there, you can see he has a soft spot for them with that flattie powered black 32 roadster and the flathead and Tremec 5-speed on the engine run stand .....

While on our tour today our illustrious and fearless tour leader ran out of gas while going to get gas during the tour. He held the entire tour up getting to our final destination and he took a good bit of ribbing for it ... well deserved of course!

Just a fantastic place, I think the pics will tell the story better than I can ....
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great photos, Tom.....thanks for sharing.....Mike
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Tom t. What is your 32 ? a 5w or sport coupe?
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It WAS a 5-window but the previous owner cut the top off (I understand it had been upside down for a long time) and put on a removable f-glass top .....
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Last Stop on our first day of touring shops - BobCo - this place does mostly pickup trucks and they had some wonderful projects going on. One in particular, the grey primered truck, was in another truck shop for quite some time and an ungodly amount of money and was removed and brought to BOBCO to be finished. This was a very nice truck when it rolled into this other shop for some updates. Presently, the customer is now very satisfied with the truck's progress and should be cruising sometime int he Fall.

They were also kind enough to feed us lunch - very much appreciated and unexpected by all.

It was a long ride back to the hotel and we met up with the rest of our group that had rolled in mid afternoon so we hung around and swapped stories. Another great day ....
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Shop Tours - Day 2 - we started our second day with Mooneyes. They had coffee and donuts for us since we had to leave at o-dark-thirty in order to beat the traffic (or minimize it - you never beat it). The internet is slow here when so many are on it so I may only load a few pics per shop for right now .....

The Mooneye vehicles are still owned by family members even though the corporation has been sold. The blue streamliner is in for some updates to take back the record they had a few years ago. BTW, all of the Mooneyes metal products like tanks, wheel disks, etc, are made in this tiny facilty and there are only 9 employees.

More pics to come ....
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Day 2 of Touring - second stop was Jimmy Shines shop. Nice, clean place with soem interesting projects, The black pickup is in for a redo of things the owner did not like after another shop recently finished the build - Jimmy began talking with him years ago - when he was 13; the 33 (4?) sedan del or panel truck is in for a restoration after having been found badly crushed in the rear and roof; the Mustang is almost ready to go back to the owner after Jimmy's crew got the suspension installed and dialed in and the pro touring T-bird is almost ready for paint. Some really exceptional work according to the comments of those in the know. Jimmy absolutely loves what he does and gets work by previous customer referrals, chance encounters with folks, and his seemingly unending enthusiasm ....
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Day 2 3rd Stop - John Force Racing Museum - he has dominated by winning 16 championships. Super clean facility, nice folks.

John also has a nice collection of older iron on the third floor of his museum - it's almost like a ballroom with the cars being the spectators around the perimeter ....

I have also shook the hands of many Fordbarn and HAMB folks since I have been here. Like a dummy, I did not write down who I did meet. If you are out there please post here and acknowledge we have met.

More to come on this and the rest of the shops we visited today tomorrow .... it was yet again, another great day .....
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WOW .. Tom you guys are having a blast !!! Try to keep the "Mayor of Smithfield " straight !
I envy you all & wish I were there. Be sure to stop by & see my great friends Kenny @ his Speedway Engineering booth & Mike @ H&H.
Waldens is the place to be on Friday night.
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You've almost got me looking for last minute flights out there. I'll just have to enjoy it through your pics and my 16 years of going memories.

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Thanks for sharing, I'm truly enjoying the pics and thanks for taking the time out of your trip to post this great stuff!
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Lee, if you left right now, you could even hang out with me. Wayno
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Hey - come on out, Lee! You only go around once in this life and waiting around for the right time is NOT an option! The internet is super slow again so I will just hit the highlights ....

Day 8 - we went to several great places today - NHRA Museum, Ron Magnus Upholstery, Pomona Valley Customs, Stockers Hot Rod Factory, Kennedy Brothers, and Fred's Custom Wiring. But the biggest surprise came at dinner .....

NHRA Museum was super - newly done since I was there in 2000
Ron Magnus - super nice, humble man who does fantastic work
PVC - busy shop with a lot going on
Stockers - up and coming having moved into a new shop last August with plans to expand
Kennedy Brothers - LOADED with parts but very well organized IMHO
Fred's Custom Wiring - Fred is extremely nice, had lunch for us, and tried to get a chance to speak with everyone ....

For the surprise, jacksandeuces on the HAMB said he was going to dinner at a steak place with his friend Rick, Ron, and Robbie. George had said earlier that he wanted a steak dinner tonight - even had me in a headlock when he described it! So, myself, Randy, Earl, and George went to dinner with Jack and the boys ...

Guess who I was parked next to at dinner?




The "Rick" Jack referred to was none other than Rick Barakat - we had a great dinner and talked some outside after afterwards. Nicest guy you cold ever want to meet. I was thrilled when he took the following ...


I had read about this car so many, many times and always wanted to build a 2-door like it - like the Scarab, I never thought I would ever get up close and personal to it. When Rick found out that I drove a flattie to the show, he even opened the door for me! Imagine that! LOL! A real pleasure meting you, Rick, and an unexpected highlight to my trip to be sure ....

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Whew,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Ma n you guys are getting around. I will be there Saturday for the swap meet. Hope to see there Tom.
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Today was our first official day at the show. Since I am not a real roadster, I had to go back into specialty parking. $60 for each of us for the weekend, 3 days. We walked the swapmeet, or saw whoever was up and running. Made one score only - paid $10 for one uncut F-100 brake drum. I needed one to complete a set ....

Before that we had breakfast at Zeke's - great food, nice people. Then we hung out at the Early Ford Store with the tour we have been on. Nice group of cars and we had a pretty good time hanging out with folks ..... Since the swapmeet opened at 10, we left EFS at around 11 or so to go over to the Fairplex, skipping a lunch that was on the tour.

After we were done strolling the swapmeet we went to the Socal Open House, and then over to Walden's open house. I will post some Socal pics here and Walden pics in another post ...
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Made one score only - paid $10 for one uncut F-100 brake drum. I needed one to complete a set ....
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You made back parking, plus some gas!
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Tom T. that 5w turned soft top looks real respectful, I'm surprised it didn't qualify in the roadster category, I have a pair of cabriolet doors, 5w cowl, & roadster quarters with thoughts of fabbing a sorta look alike cabriolet, a lot of surgery needed to make it right however.....
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RB - can't take credit for the f-glass top - whole thing was fabbed by the previous owner and I bought it as a roller. I did finish off the top by patterning the look of the car from the one book by Don Montgomery with a 32 roadster coming at you. I just love that look .....
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Saw a several Barners today at the show - Mark, Zzlegend and his son Tim and he does look a bit like Billy Gibbons, Elmo Rodge, Wayno and we hung out for quite a while, and olb (??) UKhere on the forum and we talked Flatheads non stop. The only pic I got was with Zzlegend dummy that I am!

Very hot today and at one point Randy and I sat up on this veranda and did not move for over an hour and a half, but a great day none-the-less. We finished up the swap meet and cruised the roadsters that were there and all the big vendors. Rick found a 32 radiator cap surround for half the new cost, I picked up a couple things at limeworks, and a few shirts.

Now Al was talking about our trip to the LA Roadster folks and they were very appreciative of us being there. So much so that they gave everyone in the grouo the special commemorative book they were selling and we were all invited to the dinner with all the roadster entries and all those involved with the show. They were really happy we made the trip to the show and they meant it .... thank you for putting on a great show!
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Winduptoy on the Hamb really took some great shots, much better than I. Check out the pics here:
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You might have to scroll back a few posts to get them all .....
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Tom, it was great meeting up with you again. I'll have to get back to your end of the world again some day. Wayno
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Tom, what can I say. I was really glad to meet you and your buds and shake your hand. You guys deserve a big kudos for making that drive out here. My son said,
"That's a long trip and he did it with a flathead. Now that's cool". I said yep.
Hope you guys have a safe trip home and have cooler weather ahead. Keep in touch on the barn my friend. Mark.
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It is the people you meet and the bonds you make that really make a trip like this worth while - the pleasure was all mine, gents, the pleasure was all mine.
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OK Tom, now that LA is out of the way are you going to the Fall Auto Fair?
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Haha - you are funny! Yes, a one day run for sure ...

But before that I have the NSRA Nats in Pueblo, get home, 3 trips to visit family, build my 5-window and in general, drive/run all over the place ( Carlisle, Hershey, family Birthdays, and the list goes on and on ....) almost up until Thanksgiving .....

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We took it easy today knowing we will have a very, very early day on Monday, 3 AM, trying to beat the heat. We hope to hit Gallup, NM and perhaps Earl and I will go a little further to visit johnrodz here on the Fordbarn who is visiting his wife's family in Grants, New Mexico just 40 miles down the road from Gallup.

So, for today it was a nice long sleep in (I really needed it), did some laundry, visited some of my wife's family who live about 50 miles away and got a home cooked meal - oh yea, was that ever appreciated by us!

But by doing so, I also got to test the roadster in extreme heat - 105 plus - at speed and in traffic. With running hard, temps were 175, 180 uphill, no more than 175-180 in traffic. So, the high 100+ temps that have been predicted for the next week, even in Pueblo, should be OK on the car (I hope!)

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Safe travels Tom, You and the Roadster are for sure living the dream.
Hurry back so you can GET TO WORK......... LOL
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Awesome journey and thanks for documenting the trip. Really cool and I'm glad it all worked out.

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Thanks, Tim and great news Dave! Trip across the desert went great - engine temps were 175-180, 47-48 lbs oil pressure, about 16.5 mpg. Almost in Seligman, AZ - working our way UP to Flagstaff. Got Earl driving so I can post updates in real time!
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Tom,

Glad to hear everything is going well. Flagstaff is really nice-will you be staying there or driving through? Really appreciate the terrific photos and looking forward to reading future updates. You are certainly living the dream and as others have done, you are demonstrating that a maintained Flathead can go the distance with any other motor. Safe travels. Steve
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Hey, Steve - thanks! Stopped in Seligman,AZ where we became part of the Snow Cap display!
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Well, l did not think I would get away unscathed. Had some trouble with the roadster today. On the way up the mountain going to Flagstaff shecstarted sputtering. Figured it was vapor lock so I swapped out the invented gas cap forca vented one and flipped on the electric fuel pump. After a little bit it cleared up but came back really bad after crossing to the other side of Flagstaff. It was really hot - probably 115+, 120 or more at road level. When the problems started again, it was all I could do to keep it running. We had a frozen bottle of water we strapped to the gas lines by the carbs but that did nothing. A couple of the guys felt that the gas in the gas tank was just too hot. Si, Larry had a beach towel that I soaked in cold water , wrapped the gas tank in it and also strapped on a bag of ice. My roadster grew a bustle but it worked forca time until we started sputtering again but I think my fuel regulator may have disintegrated ( Rick warned me that it might happen and it did - thanks Rick!).

Anyway, I did make it to my destination but the pics will tell how ..... don't laugh - it worked!

I am visiting with johnrodz and between the two of us we will work out a solution. Thanks Rick and Larry for having my back today!
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Despite the trouble looks like you are having a blast. I hope I can make a trip like this someday when time permits. Have fun and safe travels!
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On my first roadster show trip I drove back solo and stopped in Seligman. I had read about the 80 some year old barber in town that had been a big part of the Rt 66 revitalization in that area. So I figured a hair cut was in order. I'm sure he's past on by now, that was 2001 or 2. Keep the pics coming.

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Ok - found some carb issues that might have been the reason for all the issues. Had a piece of tumbleweed in one of the jets in my primary carb - I would have been starving for gas for sure. We are cleaning everything up and will wrap the fuel lines in aluminum foil just because. It will also be a lot cooler ...
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Ok - found some carb issues that might have been the reason for all the issues. Had a piece of tumbleweed in one of the jets in my primary carb - I would have been starving for gas for sure. We are cleaning everything up and will wrap the fuel lines in aluminum foil just because. It will also be a lot cooler ...
Wow, that is a big piece of debris. I wonder how that got past everything? (assuming you have some type of filtering system)
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Ok - found some carb issues that might have been the reason for all the issues. Had a piece of tumbleweed in one of the jets in my primary carb - I would have been starving for gas for sure. We are cleaning everything up and will wrap the fuel lines in aluminum foil just because. It will also be a lot cooler ...
YIKES,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I have heard of ethanol being added to gas but never tumble weed. Hope that was your problem Tom. I found some thing similar in an old carb of mine and had to scratch my head as to how it got there. How the rest of the trip is trouble free.
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If you are running scoops with screens and no filters that piece of FOD probably got in through the vent.
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Flatjack sells a small filter for the scoops, Chuck - I had them in when I went to Bonneville. We hit a force little windstorm and tumbleweed was flying all over the place ....

So, we cleaned out both carb bowls, used the KnN cleaner through the filters after we carb cleaned them, replaced the fuel regulator (thanks again, Rick!), flushed the lines, air horns while running, and went for a test drive. Voila! Success in the desert! The little flattie roars once again - yeee haaaaa!

John has given me some aluminum foil should any vapor lock occur. However, temps are way down, 15 degrees or more, from yesterday's highs so I hope that is the end of any vapor lock issues ....
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Thanks, zz - on a trip like this expect the unexpected, right?!
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Tim - we went through a dust and tumbleweed storm that went by so fast and came up on us fast that you could not see a thing. I had a big piece if tumbleweed that got stuck under the axle of my car. Must have dragged it along about 30 miles or more! I run the small flatjack filters that sit in the scoop, not just the screens ...

We did find another piece of tumbleweed in the back carb bowl but since I run progressive, it did not factor into anything, and several pieces sticking in the carb filters. Should a storm like that come up again, I guess I will have to run some checks in the carbs .....
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Tom - Glad to hear you cleared that snafu with no major hang-ups. We're going to have to start calling you "The Tumbleweed Kid" or some such thing.

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That would be "Tom Tumbleweed(On the Rod Again)/Williamsburg. Glad you got it sorted out. Safe travels my friend.
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Tom, like snowflakes, no two tumbleweeds are alike. Don't worry about the next one. Wayno
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Oh, man, you guys are funny! We also got a ride in a 4x4 up the back side of Mt Taylor @13000' which few people get to see. Spectacular views ....

We also went to Sandstone Bluffs to see the sunset. Clouds obscured that but what a place ....
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Thanks for posting the nice pictures Tom. Looks like you guys are making the most of your trip. Good for all of you. Envious here. Mark.
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I have no internet service so I am really hampered posting pics. We are in Pueblo for the NSRA Rocky Mountain Nats. Got here ok but the front carb had one jet partially clogged again. Caused some issues but we were able to drive through them. We cleaned out the front carb again and after driving it today, we feel confident we are home free. I also changed the oil, adjusted the brakes, and did a few other maintenance items for our trip home.
On our way up to Pueblo we stopped at Rick's place, one of the NM guys who went to the roadster show - he was driving Larry's banger. We had breakfast at his place and got a tour of his shop. Thanks Rick ....

The Smithfield crew, NM,l guys, my Pueblo friends and maybe others are all talking about hitting the LSR next spring. If this all comes together it should be a great time. I am shooting to take my 5-window if it's ready to roll - that's a good goal to shoot for at any rate.

I also have a couple pics of a nice 4-door 32 with great patina here in Pueblo ....

Finally, a shot of my friend John, Earl andvI at Sandstone Bluffs, NM ...
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Tom great pics all along the way! Love peeking around someone elses' (sp) shop especially when it's stuffed with early Fords. The signs on the building "Brakes and Tuneups" say it all...you've landed at the right place.... Bill
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Ok boys - the Pueblo Nats or Rocky Mtn Nats is in full swing. Some pics for ya ....
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Sweeeet !!!
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Had to replace my rear shocks today. The ones I had on were just worn out. Used Monroe gas shocks 555003 h I have used them before but could not remember the number. But, I checked with one of our cars here in the grouo and there they were ....

Fairgrounds is filling up - supposedly they are supposed to hit record attendance this weekend. Will post pics throughout the day soon as I clean up from being a mechanic ...
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did you have a good trip ? I was there--too hot and not very many customers.. I took a very nice 1948 crosley SW .It did not sell and it was super runner---drove it all around the swap meet---cheep car $8000. but no buyers. My opinion swap meets are getting dead.
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It did not sell and it was super runner---drove it all around the swap meet---cheep car $8000. but no buyers. My opinion swap meets are getting dead.
Truth be known, I just can't imagine ANYONE going to that swap meet this morning hoping to find a Crosley that he could spend $8,000 on. DD
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Some pics - check out this first ride ....

Love Track Ts... and fastback Mustangs ..
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Accident at the Nats here - 3 cars involved and one woman is injured but seems conscious and talking with the medics. Thoughts and prayers are with her and let's hope she will be ok .....
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Seems the Fairlane and TBird/cougar were not so badly damaged. She was angle parked like everyone else and came out of the parking spot and hit the pedal. She clipped a blue 57 Chevy and got spun around, hitting the couga then pushing both into the fsirlsne. So there were 4 cars involved and if she had not hit the 57 and got spun around she would have plowed into a whocrowdle of people ... you can just barely see the skid marks in the last photo ... no word on the injured woman as of yet ....
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Some pics ..... last 4 pics are of my favorite car of the show ....
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Ok - for you ardun lovers, here is something you may never ever see in a running driven car .....
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Ha, and I thought I knew a little bit of something about "oddballs" and rare crap! That's beyond WOW! Any JUICY details? DD

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When I was at the show last year I got to speak with the owner. You can remove the covers and it runs like s swiss watch (with or without the covers) with good power. I think Bill Smith museum has one pair and the other is in a private collection somewhere in Colorado. So, so cool to see it on the street ...
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When I was at the show last year I got to speak with the owner. You can remove the covers and it runs like s swiss watch (with or without the covers) with good power. I think Bill Smith museum has one pair and the other is in a private collection somewhere in Colorado. So, so cool to see it on the street ...
Thanks for that, Tom. I did a little snoopin', and I believe this is the one at Speedy Bill's. These things are reputed to be 32"-wide, and I think that's why this picture is so big. DD

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Yep, company, it's the same setup. It is massive for sure ....

ThevPeublo Rocky Mountain Nats are in the books - 2080 something in attendance, breaking their record by about 120 cars. None of our group won anything other than a great time. One kid from Richmond won a nsracreps pic and one of the three $3k cash prizes. Earl and I did introduce ourselves - he had a Mod A p-up with either a 348 or 409 and it was a well deserved award for the truck. Night time cruising through the fairgrounds went on until about 11pm both Fri-Sat nights with a lot of cruising and we had a good time.

The airplane engined car - more info - the engine is reversersed and the truck is front wheel drive by something similar to a blower drive belt to a pulley gets the front wheels moving. I could not get close enough to take any further pics today but I hope someone else can chime in .....

We had some repairs on Pete's car today - his Holley 4 bbl was giving him trouble, stripped bolt holes, etc, and he cobbled together another carb to get home with a spare from another member of our group. Then, this evening after dinner I was hearing some noise in the driver front tire area. Turns out the lugs of the wide five adapter to the drum had loosened. Snugged them up and we are ready for tomorrow.

We are off to Edmond, OK north of Oklahoma City and Tuesday will be spent driving Rt 66 to Cuba Missouri where we will stay at the Wagon Wheel Motel, an iconnn Rt 66 and one of the original motels on Rt 66. The last two days we will run up to interstate 64 from St Louis back to Williamsburg, about 950 miles in the last two days.

Any Barner in the Edmond, OK area let me know here and perhaps we can meet up tomorrow night ....

Pics - first two are the boys at b-fast, the amphitheatre where the awards ceremony was held, and the boyze - Pete Stringer, and very well known racecar driver in Colorado, myself, Earl,cand Bob Padilla - both Pete and Bob I met at Bonnwville in 2013 .....
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Old 06-27-2016, 10:02 AM   #179
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Great reporting Tom Tumbleweed!
Be safe on your way home.
I could tell you of a short cut but you might end up going through South Carolina!!
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The airplane engined car - more info - the engine is reversersed and the truck is front wheel drive by something similar to a blower drive belt to a pulley gets the front wheels moving. I could not get close enough to take any further pics today but I hope someone else can chime in .....
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That radial airplane engine is a Jacobs. Those are the same Jakes on the T-50 in my avatar. Seven cylinders, and actually 755 C.I. What a waste of an otherwise COOL engine. Thanks for the pics, Tom.

And keep a close eye on those adapter bolts. Many times, once those things get loose enough to move-around and make noise like you had, there is already some damage done......hopefully NOT! DD
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"The Pueblo Rocky Mountain Nats are in the books - 2080 something in attendance". Sounds like you had fun Tom. We just had the Minnesota Street Rod Association (MSRA) "Back To The Fifties" here on the 19th-21st. There were 11,943 registered participant vehicles '64 or older. With that many cars there were a lot of flatheads to check out. Seems like more and more every year. Unfortunately, there were a few less vendors this year. I always like to check out H&H but they were a no show. Did they have many vendors at the LA show?
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Old 06-27-2016, 12:46 PM   #182
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You bet, Coopman - we will check them every night. I brought my battery powered air gun so it will be a quick one !!! I will install longer studs when I get home though - the studs need to be longer so they pass through the lugnuts, not just be flush

The road less travelled has been great. Rt 50 to 400 into Kansas and now on 283. All 2 lane highway like Rt 66 with some sections of 4+lane divided highway, go through some nice little towns, very, very nostalgic.

As for our adventure continuing, we appreciate all the interest and kind words. It has been one heck of a trip so far!
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