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Old 12-02-2013, 12:23 AM   #1
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Default Wheel/drum stud swedge remover

Can anyone advise a tool that is used to remove studs from brake drums and the center housings.?? I remember a thread about tools that can be made or purchased, but can not find it.

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Old 12-02-2013, 12:35 AM   #2
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Default Re: Wheel/drum stud swedge remover

Vince has a section on installing new studs on Fordgarage, and near the bottom he shows how to remove one using a special swage cutter

http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/swaging.htm
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:37 AM   #3
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Can anyone advise a tool that is used to remove studs from brake drums and the center housings.?? I remember a thread about tools that can be made or purchased, but can not find it.

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Bob, A hole saw of the right diameter might work, by taking the center bit out?? Bill W.
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A hole saw will work, if you get the 9/16" size, it will go over the 1/2" stud and guide you down to the swedging perfectly. Be sure to use some cutting oil. A large drill press is handy, but can be done with a hand drill using a slow speed
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Old 12-02-2013, 06:46 AM   #5
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I used a hand drill with a hole saw as dad mentioned
when i replace drums

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Old 12-02-2013, 06:54 AM   #6
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Bob, my experience is the hole saw trick only works well if you are doing it as a one-time deal. Since you are running a Model-A Garage, you really need to invest in the proper tool where you can do it fast and safely. Snyder's sells it here: http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/5459 or you can get it where I get my engine rebuilding supplies http://www.goodson.com/Brake-Drum-Swedge-Cutting-Tool/
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:42 AM   #7
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YOU'RE BACK!!!!!!!! Like sumbody said, "Use a slow drill"! Most shop idiots think you should drill @ 47,000 RPM with their air powered thingamajigs. That's ONLY for grinding or polishing, etc.
Always drill slow, with enough pressure to create a long, constant cutting & your bits will last "forever"! I was taught by a "MASTER", BUT, I never really got the "HANG" of sharpening drill bits well--+*^#%#@$+ Bill W.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:08 AM   #8
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YOU'RE BACK!!!!!!!! Like sumbody said, "Use a slow drill"! Most shop idiots think you should drill @ 47,000 RPM with their air powered thingamajigs. That's ONLY for grinding or polishing, etc.
Always drill slow, with enough pressure to create a long, constant cutting & your bits will last "forever"! I was taught by a "MASTER", BUT, I never really got the "HANG" of sharpening drill bits well--+*^#%#@$+ Bill W.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:57 AM   #9
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A hole saw will work, if you get the 9/16" size, it will go over the 1/2" stud and guide you down to the swedging perfectly. Be sure to use some cutting oil. A large drill press is handy, but can be done with a hand drill using a slow speed
I use a 9/16 hole saw like Jim. Just be careful you don't go too deep then just whack the old stud and it pops out. I bring the hub and drum to the auto machine shop and they swage in new ones. Don't bother getting the so called swaging tool as it's not hardened steel and will mush out under the 30 ton press, let them use their own.
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:37 PM   #10
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This flyer is dated, but still may be valid.

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Old 12-02-2013, 01:39 PM   #11
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Just looked at their site, and that tool is now $90 plus shipping.

The tool shown from Snyder's looks like a better tool, and that's the one I'd buy.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:41 PM   #12
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My preference and procedure is to use the correct tool. I have used the same tool many times on both "A" and V8 Drums... It works like a charm. I take them down with the swedge cutter tool to the point a little tap with a brass hammer knocks out. I can't imagine trying to do it with a hole saw.. and being very successful...

That's the easy part. facing the hub, prepping everything and swedging them in is the more tedious process. As a KRW junkie I have one of the Hub bolt swedge tools... ( I think I bought it years ago from Herm Konke) and I can't imagine really doing it with them..... but at this point it's part of the collection whether they work well or not.

Get the correct hub bolt cutter!!! Also... if you do any kind of work at all... as Brent eluded.. Goodson has lots of good stuff... from cutting oils... to tool bits, machine items.. etc. A good resource...
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:57 PM   #13
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You guys are all great! Thank You!!
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:49 AM   #14
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I have used a Sears Craftsman hole saw and a 3/8 inch electric drill at slow speed with a lot of oil. The same hole saw has done a dozen drums with each drum taking about fifteen minutes. The studs often just fall out on their own when the shoulder is cut away with no damage to the drum. I'm sure the expensive cutter works faster, but for occasional use, the hole saw is the way to go.
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Old 12-03-2013, 11:04 AM   #15
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Just looked at their site, and that tool is now $90 plus shipping.

The tool shown from Snyder's looks like a better tool, and that's the one I'd buy.
I don't know why the Goodson catalog pic looks as it does. This is the pic of the ST-500 from Goodson:



Now, this is the pic from Snyders:



Read the markings.




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Thanks Marco. That was exactly my point. (the carbide cutters)
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Thanks Marco. That was exactly my point. (the carbide cutters)
In case it wasn't clear, they HAVE the carbide tips in real life. The Goodson catalog photo is not the same as what you get. the Snyders photo is the REAL Goodson product.
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Thanks Marco,
I ordered one.....

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Maybe I should have jumped in earlier to confirm what Marco is saying. I purchased my first cutter from Snyders, and since I purchase some of my engine rebuilding supplies from Goodson, I purchased my second cutter from Goodson, ...and they are the same product. The benefit from Snyders is if you are purchasing more than one Model-A item and also purchase the cutter, the freight is spread over the entire order making it cheaper to purchase that cutter from Snyders. The same applied for me purchasing from Goodson.
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Old 12-04-2013, 12:18 PM   #20
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If you look at the cutter on Vince's site it has been modified so it only
cuts the swedge on the stud and not the drum.

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