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Old 12-14-2018, 12:22 PM   #1
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Default Fuel Spark Arrestor in bottom of Tank, removal

This fall, lost my balance filling the gas tank, ended up poking the Tab Style Spark Arrester down into my gas tank.


Searched the Barn for tips on how to get it out, only found one mention of using a stick with a strong magnet attached to retrieve it.
At same time will be rebuilding the Gas Gauge, not working, perhaps damaged due to the loose spark arrester.


Other Methods?
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Old 12-14-2018, 01:22 PM   #2
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you might be able to get a small but long forcepts thru the opening or even a hooked wire clothes hanger if you can see it. Use a small, powerful penlight to look through the gas opening.
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Old 12-14-2018, 06:00 PM   #3
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Patience and more patience, I would use a magnetic pick up thru the gas gauge hole getting the small end to you, then catch that end with a hook, pulling the small end out first. May take most of the day, but..........
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Old 12-14-2018, 06:15 PM   #4
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Please just remember, no matter what you attempt to do, your working on a “GAS” tank.
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Old 12-14-2018, 06:15 PM   #5
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I'd do the magnet thing also to get it where I could grab it. I'd also have the gauge out so you can get fingers or tools in there to help. It probably needs to come out backwards in order to start out the filler hole. You may even have to collapse the upper end to get it out (they're inexpensive )
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Old 12-14-2018, 09:20 PM   #6
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Not to de-rail this thread, but after hearing of the complications resulting from dislodging the flame arrester, just how important is this little screen? Perhaps I have been living on borrowed time for the last 50 years not having one in my 31' Coupe.


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Old 12-14-2018, 09:25 PM   #7
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I was able to fish mine out using a telescoping type magnet and then grabbing it with vise-grips and pulling it out backwards

Mine had broken off so once I removed the screw type top portion it pulled out with little effort.

It would occasionally get tangled with the gauge float while it was loose in the tank.
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Old 12-14-2018, 09:31 PM   #8
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Might work better if you can get one of those flex type magnets.
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Old 12-14-2018, 10:40 PM   #9
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As mentioned in #7, be sure to remove the top part of the screen first so you have a larger opening. My 28 had the flame arrestor laying in the bottom of the tank. The top part was extremely hard to remove, but after spraying Kroil and making a heavy duty blade to fit the slots, I was finally able to unscrew it. I then used a magnet to lift out the bottom part.
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As mentioned in #7, be sure to remove the top part of the screen first so you have a larger opening. My 28 had the flame arrestor laying in the bottom of the tank. The top part was extremely hard to remove, but after spraying Kroil and making a heavy duty blade to fit the slots, I was finally able to unscrew it. I then used a magnet to lift out the bottom part.
Am confused - my arrestor is the tab type, I thought the screw in type had slots. Perhaps I should look them up in the parts catalogues to get a better idea of what I am up against - will do.
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Old 12-15-2018, 01:39 AM   #11
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OK, I wasn't sure which style you had, so the tab type will be easier, as you just lift out the top part, if the screen separated from it. If the complete flame arrestor got pushed into the tank, then I'd put the magnet to the bottom of the screen and lift it out backwards.
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As mentioned in #7, be sure to remove the top part of the screen first so you have a larger opening. My 28 had the flame arrestor laying in the bottom of the tank. The top part was extremely hard to remove, but after spraying Kroil and making a heavy duty blade to fit the slots, I was finally able to unscrew it. I then used a magnet to lift out the bottom part.
I fought removal of the threaded screen in a 28 gas tank, made a tool nothing I tried would get it to turn, finally as last try bought the removal tool, put it on my 3/8 extension then to makita driver drill, popped out in about five seconds.
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Not to de-rail this thread, but after hearing of the complications resulting from dislodging the flame arrester, just how important is this little screen? Perhaps I have been living on borrowed time for the last 50 years not having one in my 31' Coupe.


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The flame arrester is designed to keep any flame at the neck of the gas tank. This is how a gas lamp works. Put gas cap back on and hopefully any fire is now out.

Gas will not burn, but as we all know the fumes will and are very dangerous.

Without flame arrester. Flame will go into the tank and depending on amount of gas and other things, you could have an explosion. Also arrester keeps things from going into tank that you don’t want there.

If it wasn’t needed, Henry would not have installed it. Back in the day there were many concerns about the placement of the gas tank in the Model A. Not the best design.
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Old 12-15-2018, 12:13 PM   #14
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BEFORE you pull the gas gauge out, DISCONNECT the BATTERY ! ! ! ! !
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BEFORE you pull the gas gauge out, DISCONNECT the BATTERY ! ! ! ! !
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Had not thought of this - thanks.


Have also considered 1st attempting to remove the screen with the gas tank full so little to no vapors in the tank, and then if necessary drain the gas down for access through the tank Gas Gauge Hole. Also do this outside on a cool day with a box fan (they are AC, no sparking DC brushes) over the Tank, and doors open. Having the gas cap handy, fire extinguisher, and heavy blankets handy.


And the Fire Dept./EMS on alert


Will be doing this next spring, my A is unavailable, currently in storage for its winter nap. Storage time is a great time to prepare for the next driving season.




Thanks to all for suggestions, please keep them coming if there are additional suggestions.
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Old 12-15-2018, 05:10 PM   #16
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Poke a large wooden dowel down into the tank and smoosh it flat enough so it doesn't roll around and bother you or your gas gauge.
Buy another one and forget about the one on the bottom of your tank.
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