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Old 02-12-2015, 01:41 PM   #41
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Ron, can you still get offy heads numerically lower (below 400) I only seen 425 and 400's listed. If you can then go for it.
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Old 02-12-2015, 07:22 PM   #42
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ok change the heads. 350s 0r 400 do i need or really want more comp with the 350 on a stock motor?? leave the 94 on the car like Merc said you only use 2 barls 99 % anyway. put in a newer oil pump 8BA and truck tube (M19) and water pumps and drive it!!!
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Old 02-12-2015, 07:44 PM   #43
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We'll have to agree to disagree on carb size for a flathead.
Your right bigger ain't always better, unless the bigger one is the right size and the smaller one is a bit small.
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OK, I will agree to agree to disagree.
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Old 02-12-2015, 07:54 PM   #44
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ok why disagree
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Old 02-12-2015, 09:07 PM   #45
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compression is torque, carbs are RPM. Read the book.
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:06 PM   #46
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Ron, the books on order....will the comp hurt the stock motor??
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Old 02-13-2015, 02:42 AM   #47
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ok why disagree
We disagree due to different opinions on carb size.
Also as above, higher compression will do nothing but feel good on a stock engine.
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:43 AM   #48
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I have a 49-53 Edleb. 4b manifold that I want to use on a 59AB. Because it is for the late engines, the carb surface is on a slant. Does anyone know a mfg that makes a wedge shaped adapter plate to convert the late manifold to a parelel surface (block and carb mounting). Would love to just trade it for a early model.
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Old 02-13-2015, 08:20 AM   #49
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He wants to un tilt the carb.
The 8BA manifolds tip the carb forward to counteract the 8BA engine that's tilted back, so the carb ends up level. You see?
Put this 8BA inlet on a 59A or earlier engine (that sits almost bang on level, the carb now tilts forward.
I think boat type places may have carb wedges, but used to see them in speed catalogs, doubt you'll find one that adapts bolt pattern and wedges though.
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Old 02-13-2015, 08:40 AM   #50
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Not bad in the looks department. 500 CFM Edelbrock.
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Old 02-13-2015, 09:39 AM   #51
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Way back in the day, 1963-65, I had a coulpa Flatties, stock except for and Edmonds 2x2 w/ 94's. I swapped this setup around on the otherwise stock engines and also used the stock single deuce. So many years & beers ago, but I don't recall any particular driveability issues with either of those setups.
But let's have a look here: Flathead Ford Intake Manifold Smackdown
Written by Marlan Davis, HotRod Magazine October 24, 2012
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Old 02-13-2015, 01:23 PM   #52
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Just to clear up possible confusion.
My post about un tilting the carb, was a response to a post that seems to have disappeared!
Not me going mad.
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Old 02-13-2015, 02:50 PM   #53
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I have a 49-53 Edleb. 4b manifold that I want to use on a 59AB. Because it is for the late engines, the carb surface is on a slant. Does anyone know a mfg that makes a wedge shaped adapter plate to convert the late manifold to a parelel surface (block and carb mounting). Would love to just trade it for a early model.
What I do to correct this is to mill the carb surface parallel to the engine surface.
It takes about 20 minutes to setup & mill.
And for the worriers, the bolts or studs don't care if they are on a slight angle.
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:34 PM   #54
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Thanks guys! I have a couple of plates that may be thick enough to mill at a slant also.
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I have a 49-53 Edleb. 4b manifold that I want to use on a 59AB. Because it is for the late engines, the carb surface is on a slant. Does anyone know a mfg that makes a wedge shaped adapter plate to convert the late manifold to a parelel surface (block and carb mounting). Would love to just trade it for a early model.
42 merc. beat me to it. pull the studs, and mill the carb. matting area flat to the base. you might need to clean out a little on the carb base holes, so it will slip right on. it should fit on and make a good seal, one gasket....and your good to go...........OLD......BILL

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Old 02-13-2015, 06:32 PM   #56
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For this application, I think JWL's book would be the best one, You can see the results of a modification.
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Old 02-14-2015, 08:10 AM   #57
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is there a link to JWL s book??
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Old 02-14-2015, 08:21 AM   #58
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I had the same question. It was so simple it scared me.....I just Googled: "jwl flathead" and received a page full of leads. Try this one for example:
Flathead Facts: John W. Lawson: Amazon.com: Books
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Old 02-14-2015, 09:44 AM   #59
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Get both books here. Ford Barner.
http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...oksforsale.htm
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Old 02-14-2015, 10:27 AM   #60
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Link to Ol Ron's Book.
I started with some of the same questions you are asking, Rons book will help you flatten the learning curve. $$ well spent.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/rebu...bpQ-_-10:1&r=1
That link is to Ron Bishops book, you want Ron Hollerans book, Van Pelts has it.

Not that you can't have too many books about flatheads.
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