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Old 05-17-2020, 05:51 PM   #1
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Hello All,


New to the forum and originally posted this in the To the Editors / Questions and Suggestions section. Yea, that new. Anyway, had help from a couple of members (thanks Charlie Stephens and redmodelt) that directed me here to get more info. I have boxes of loose, no part number, or part numbered parts that don't reference out for me that I would like to identify. I used to spend hours looking through part books diagrams and searching the internet, but got burned out. Google Image Search USED to be good, but that was 10 years ago. Some parts I can tell are for older Ford that fit into this Early V8 year frame, some are later. Some I won't know at all so may make the mistake of posting here. Maybe if others have parts they can't figure out or I post too many, there can be a section called "What is This?" Should I keep posting to the same thread or should I post a new thread for each part? One thread might get confusing with comments generated from the part itself and get mixed as it goes along so maybe I'll try a separate thread for each part needing help. I won't post too many to see how the forum wants to accept or not. Ideas?


Anyway, I'd like to post some pictures of parts here that someone might ID. I can then offer for sale to someone who might be able to use them over on the Swap side of the Barn. If no interest there, I'll move them on to eBay. Figured it might be kind of interesting for all.


So this one, I was told is a crank adapter for an early Ford. It has the Ford script on it. Threads show witness where I checked thread pitch and came up with 5/8"-18 fine. Stared at it for years, thinking it was a tool, ratchet type piece for a truck bed or ...... If I can get help with a general year and application, I'll should able to find a part number.


Thanks in advance for input and help.


Jeff
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Old 05-17-2020, 05:55 PM   #2
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This goes on the end of the crankshaft and serves two purposes. One - it holds the crank pulley to the crank and two, if a guy were insane enough, it engages the hand crank.
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Old 05-17-2020, 06:03 PM   #3
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The basic number is 6319. Crankshaft cranking ratchet. The prefix is probably B
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Old 05-17-2020, 06:27 PM   #4
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This goes on the end of the crankshaft and serves two purposes. One - it holds the crank pulley to the crank and two, if a guy were insane enough, it engages the hand crank.



Thanks Kube. Must be for a Model A then? Only engine I ever turned by crank was an old Wisconsin we put on a brush buggy in Northern Minnesota. Almost shattered my forearm from a badly tuned engine that loved to backfire.
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The basic number is 6319. Crankshaft cranking ratchet. The prefix is probably B



Thank you Bob. That's more help than I was hoping for.



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Old 05-17-2020, 07:06 PM   #6
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Thanks Kube. Must be for a Model A then? Only engine I ever turned by crank was an old Wisconsin we put on a brush buggy in Northern Minnesota. Almost shattered my forearm from a badly tuned engine that loved to backfire.
These were used all the way through 1948.
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Old 05-17-2020, 08:40 PM   #7
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Almost shattered my forearm from a badly tuned engine that loved to backfire.

This is the reason that you should PULL-UPWARD on the crank handle rather than PUSHING-DOWNWARD. If it backfires while PULLING-up, the worst that it can do is jerk the handle free of your hand....no broken bones! DD
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Old 05-17-2020, 08:52 PM   #8
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My 59ab V-8 starts very easily with the hand crank. 1/4 turn pulling up as stated above. I have done it several times. It helps if the engine is warmed up.
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Not sure of the size looking at the picture, but it looks like it could be the size used for a 60 hp flathead.
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Old 05-17-2020, 11:07 PM   #10
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The one in the photo appears to be a b-6319 (1928-38)
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Old 05-18-2020, 08:16 AM   #11
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This is the reason that you should PULL-UPWARD on the crank handle rather than PUSHING-DOWNWARD. If it backfires while PULLING-up, the worst that it can do is jerk the handle free of your hand....no broken bones! DD
And never wrap your thumb around the crank as well!
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Old 05-18-2020, 11:39 AM   #12
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You would also see these on the early Ford Tractors, 2N, 8N, and 9N. Don't think my 54 NAA has a hand-crank adaptor.

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Old 05-18-2020, 11:56 AM   #13
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just a funny true story a very good friend of mine had a 1928 model a he was playing around the crank one day to see if he could start it and it did like real quick took out his neighbors porch he forgot that he left it in reverse good thing it wasn’t in a forward gear he was 16 at the time he’s 78 now and still remembers it well
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These were used all the way through 1948.

Kube,

I'm just curious. Was there also a path through the grill and radiator for the cranking rod all the way through 1948 ?

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just a funny true story a very good friend of mine had a 1928 model a he was playing around the crank one day to see if he could start it and it did like real quick took out his neighbors porch he forgot that he left it in reverse good thing it wasn’t in a forward gear he was 16 at the time he’s 78 now and still remembers it well
I did that at the drive-in when I was 16. Right in front of everybody. Dam car backing across the parking lot with me hanging on to the headlight bar, trying to dig my heels in.
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I did that at the drive-in when I was 16. Right in front of everybody. Dam car backing across the parking lot with me hanging on to the headlight bar, trying to dig my heels in.
OK, I'll bite; how did that end?

I could repeat my story about winning beers crank-starting my '48 Seagrave with the 468ci Pierce-Arrow V12, but everybody has probably already heard it.
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OK, I'll bite; how did that end?

I could repeat my story about winning beers crank-starting my '48 Seagrave with the 468ci Pierce-Arrow V12, but everybody has probably already heard it.

I think it'd be funnier if you repeated the stories about trying to get the damned thing STOPPED! DD
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Old 05-19-2020, 01:40 PM   #18
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Dick, pulling up on the crank is no guarantee of injury free cranking. A friend of mine's father starting a V8 with a 2 piece crank had the crank come apart and the part in his hand swung up and knocked teeth out and required stitches in his face.
Like hand propping an airplane--nothing I want to try.
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Like hand propping an airplane--nothing I want to try.

Ehhh…..No big deal, unless ya mean propping one mid-air! DD


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That's quite a picture of desperation. Lol
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