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Old 01-18-2018, 11:35 AM   #1
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Default Engine Pan Installation

I am trying to install the engine pans.

The pans come with three home on the outboard side the secure to the frame underneath.

On the engine side, there are two tabs with slots. Am I to loosen two bolts that hold the engine pan to the block, slide the tab underneath, and resecure the bolts.

If this is wrong, where do the two tabs of the engine pan connect?

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Old 01-18-2018, 11:50 AM   #2
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Yes the tabs on the engine side go under the pan bolts.
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:40 PM   #3
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Looks like your light switch is upside down.

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Old 01-18-2018, 12:45 PM   #4
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You might want to put a couple washers under the tabs as thick as the oil pan flange lip.

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Old 01-18-2018, 12:56 PM   #5
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My car did not come with pans when I bought her but I have some now that I am going to be installing here shortly. I have a couple of questions about the pans themselves.

With them being mounted to the frame as well as the engine, ... do the flex and become prone to metal fatigue around the mounting points?

Does the paint crack in the mounting point areas?

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Old 01-18-2018, 01:22 PM   #6
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Bill, to answer your question - yes, they do flex and become prone to cracking and breaking. However, that being said, it does take several decades of driving for anything significant to happen, so it is nothing to worry about. After 30 years of constant driving, IF and When it becomes a problem, simply buy another set. Most of us will never see the problem - only the next generation of drivers will ever be subject to the possibility.
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Old 01-18-2018, 01:50 PM   #7
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The right side pan with the exhaust pipe slot might need to grind the flange a little to clear one of the right side forward oil pan bolts. That was the only pan conflict we found. You also may need to compress slightly the pans to fit. We cut little slots in the 6 frame bolts threads ends to receive a screwdriver to hold when installing the square nuts (facing down). The oil pan bolts secure the pans at 4 places. Also, even with powder coat, prolonged gas leaking from the carb may eat the finish. Some use lacquer or dope in that area.
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Old 01-18-2018, 02:24 PM   #8
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Thanks Duke,

Sounds like nothing to worry over but I wonder if putting a rubber grommets with a steel insert at the mounting points would help.

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Old 01-18-2018, 02:48 PM   #9
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I did get the pans installed. I will tell you that it was not easy task. I had to use clamps and a pry bar to install the pans and get the fasteners inserted. It is not easy to be sure.
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Old 01-18-2018, 04:49 PM   #10
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The light switch, besides being upside down as pointed out above, actually has a later cap on it. Model A light switch covers did not have a flat area on them.
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Old 01-18-2018, 06:56 PM   #11
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Re light switch, that is how most current replacements are made. It is the V8 style.
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Old 01-18-2018, 07:12 PM   #12
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Thanks for the heads up. I will change the cap out tomorrow. I will not be getting to wiring the vehicle for quite a while.

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Old 01-18-2018, 08:47 PM   #13
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If you' not building a show car, try drilling the holes in the frame a little bigger and threading them for the bolts. Makes installation easier.
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Old 01-18-2018, 08:59 PM   #14
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To Glenn,
Thanks for the suggestion. I was able to install the pans. It was difficult, but with a tremendous amount of persuasion, I install all five fasteners in each of the two pans. Not a job I want to do again, I am sitting here on a heating pad, trying to warm my back. Apparently, laying on a cold garage floor in not good for this old man!!!!

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Even Dogs have enuff common sense than to lay on a COLD floor! In human years, I'm 64 & sleep on my OWN, King Size Bed, beside Ol' Bills' BEND-A-BED I burrow under my OWN comforter & sleep 'til NOON, if I want to. IF I ever got cold, I'd go under the covers, with Ol' Bill & we have FART contests
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I recall, that after I installed pans about 25 years ago, one of the flanges at the oil pan edge broke after only a couple of weeks, leaving the pan edge to rub against the engine and make a horrendous graunching noise as the car moved. Turns out this was a service bulletin item. I recall that Ford's solution was to remove the offending flange and use only one oil pan bolt.
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I recall, that after I installed pans about 25 years ago, one of the flanges at the oil pan edge broke after only a couple of weeks, leaving the pan edge to rub against the engine and make a horrendous graunching noise as the car moved. Turns out this was a service bulletin item. I recall that Ford's solution was to remove the offending flange and use only one oil pan bolt.
I also recall something about removing the front flange, but for the life of me I can't find it now.

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Old 01-19-2018, 09:06 AM   #18
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To Bill,

I was not laying on the cold floor directly, I had two pieces of carpet and a piece of cardboard. I am not so stupid as to lay directly on the concrete. Give me a break!
Even thought the temperature gauge read 55, when I was down under the car, I could still see my breath.

It is just plain cold!!!
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To Bill,

I was not laying on the cold floor directly, I had two pieces of carpet and a piece of cardboard. I am not so stupid as to lay directly on the concrete. Give me a break!
Even thought the temperature gauge read 55, when I was down under the car, I could still see my breath.

It is just plain cold!!!
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The older I get (72 in Feb) the tougher it is to do the "floor jobs". Seems that once I get down there I forget why I am on the floor and upon remembering I lay there and list all the tools I didn't bring with me. Chap
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