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03-31-2012, 06:42 PM | #1 |
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1929 Ford Coupe - Rusty to Solid
Well Miles from the Ford Barn dropped off his coupe today !! Needs some subrail work patch panels.rust holes and probably a few other things im looking over!! The car has a ton of family history for him and i cant wait to get it solid again for him
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Can't wait to see the progress!!!
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Cars with family history are the best, look forward to the progress reports. Bob
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Flop, I enjoy that you share these journeys with us. I look forward to the visual and verbal updates.
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This should be a good one. Please keep us updated.
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Between a 120 mile commute each day, starting a new full time job and helping out with with the father-in-law I had neither the time nor the patience to keep at it. It'll go back together better and faster than I could make it happen.
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well just got back from a big vacation/work trip . wisconsin to work on a 40 merc convertible then to austin texas for the lonestar round up!! just got back today and decided to do some work!! man it feels good to work in my own shop again. gonna start on the cowl and work my way back .
a little rot to start off with a patch panel for the most part that actually fit . i didnt use the beak in the front though it was crooked where the model orig was actually straight after a little tig welding and some hammer and grinding
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Mine needs a little work too! Wick
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thanks vanspeed!
send her down wick!! well the cowl sheetmetal is pretty much done . next gonna do some subframe work patch tacked in a little rot left finished up drivers side finished up as well started messing with the sub rails
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Nice work!!! You are doing great!!
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Hey Flop, nice work but make sure you assemble the sub floor on a jig or a good frame for mounting hole alignment. I just mounted a pickup body that was repaired by someone else and the right side mounting holes were 1 inch forward of the left side, had to use a portapower and the rails broke apart while trying to line up. We ended up mounting then rewelding the rails in place. Those frame holes are the boss.
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good tip barry!! i have the 30 roadster on that jig now so getting these lower subrail pieces sitting in is about as far as i can take it for the time being.
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well everything was going to smooth....something had to not fit right.
repop subrails are the culprit! as you can see the pad where the subrail connector rivets to the inner connectors isnt even close . the orig connector had a step in this area to move it back the 3/8 of an inch so the pieces mated as you can see in the pictures. and the other side showing the same
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You do very nice work Flop. Wish I could do as well.
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thanks woodie! never rush is my tip on quality work.
well got the front subframe connectors all buttoned up today.. had to have a slit put in them so they would sit flush onto the other piece like a stock one would after being widened and riveted together in place. not rivited in just holding it in place and both now its time to put it on the jig and make sure we are square before i go any further
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That is nice, wish you could teach people. Like teach them in person.
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well started on the subrail patches because i picked up a frame off a friend of mine ...
cut out the mess new patch welded and finished well then i ran out of argon for the tig so it turned into squirt gun sunday (mig) for the drivers side didnt get to finish it tonight just welded it in
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Again, very nice work.
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thanks vanspeed!!
well apparently there are no repops made of this connector from the door post to the cowl so i had to whip up 2 of em . heres the first side. they resemble the original but the og pieces have a shape pressed into them . i cant get the shape pressed into 16 gauge plus they are never to be seen again once the car goes back together and i started on the other side
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I really enjoy seeing the results of your work. It is amazing!
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thanks Country!1
finished up the drivers side bracket this morning thats they dont repop then set the seat pan in transferred the rivet holes and got everything lined up there. the rivets arnt set just keeping the panel aligned . i didnt put the rear pan in because it will be much easier to work on the rear of the car with out that piece in. moving back ward to where the new subframe was once welded on . it needed some help in my opinion a few patches later and a little tig welding its looking a little better and the connection on the drivers side after got all the welds smoothed out
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Flop, you are an artist with some mad skills! Keep up the amazing work.
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This is an amazing thread to follow! You should think about putting this all together and getting it published! Thanks for taking the time to do this.
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thanks seth !!
just another days work 28annie! but i do like taking the time to show folks what goes into bringing a car back the correct way . this was a random hole cut here where there was a body mount had to patch it before i put the subframe in the subframe was cut to close to the brace so i couldnt clean up the weld nicely. so i cut out some of the new subframe so i could achieve that and the new connection
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Just love the progress photos, please keep them coming.
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Great work Flop and the owner has got to be loving this, almost as good as watching over your shoulder! Keep the updates coming! Dale
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Hey flop Im going through the same thing on my 29 truck, first time on restoring one. Any hints on doing the sub rails and could u fab. up a set of door post connectors for me? Restoring my grandfathers truck witch he handed down to me was I was about five now Im 45 and just getting started, would mean alot to me with alittle help in the right direction Thanks Pete
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thanks everyone!!
Vanspeed i never really use a dremel . i grind with a 36 grit 6 inch disc on an electric sander . i also use 60 grit on a 3 inch roloc and a file. 29 -make sure you are working off a frame that is level and square .ill send you a message about the connectors
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Thank flop I did learn alot off this forum, I will be calling thanks again Pete
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did some more work on Miles coupe today
put a patch in this riser .no sense on getting a repop when only 1 tiny section was rotted out got it all smoothed out this piece in my opinion this rear panel below the decklid is the biggest pain to get out of an A after i got it out had to redrill and tap all 8 screw holes in the rear subrail
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Excellent work, Flop! I am getting closer to taking my 29 apart to check just how solid it really is, so this thread is extremely helpful to me in case mine isn't as solid as it was reported.
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thanks co29 1 glad to know people can check on the thread and get some help from it!!
didnt get much done today juggling a bunch of projects at the moment but i did get this area cleaned up and for the most part have 90 percent of all the subframe work done and riveted back in after i patched it
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well up front to a rotten door pillar
a little brace so i can fix the bracing bent this up made the step with a bead roller and all welded up ready to get covered in sheet metal!!
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well got the quarter patched and the wheel well a quarter of the way in
i also wonder why they make the patches so horrible ? i mean come on almost a quarter inch short isnt from die wear!!
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Are all the patches 1/4 inch short?
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Been enjoying the posting a lot,thanks,i'm sub. to thread.
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no idea if all patches are short but every patch needs messed with in some wya or the other
thanks dana ! got the quarter squared away today and heres a few holes of what was left after the patch was in and this is it all finished up
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well took a run to snyders today picked up the rear patch for Mile's coupe as well as a truck full of other things
heres the problem . which in-turn sucked in the trunk gap a little brass and a double panel!! tacked in about 75% done no real complaints with the panel either a little tweaking here and there but no major surgery to it yet !
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Definitely need to follow this thread!
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I am sure he can. But, so can I.
I am not interested in any way hijacking this thread so I am only going to point to my signature once.
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This is a real education - a superb artisan at work.
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thanks folks!!
one of the biggest PAINS in putting together is this panel. its a horrible fit from the get go . the "new bracing" is dreadful . notice the giant twist the orig panel was pretty . i transferred the orig bracing to the new skin . it fit alot better after that
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There appears to be something like a "T" molding that runs down the back on each side of that panel from the top area. Is this something that is replaceable? If so, where could I find some??? Thanks
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any model a parts house has it . the reproduction is aluminum .
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How come I can't see any pictures attached to this thread ?
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weird they are all linked through photobucket. anyone else have this problem?
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What you are doing and have is a tallent that probably 99% of us on this fourm could not do ourselves without screwing something up. What is the WORST job that you can remember in doing this kind of art and were you able to get it done or did you give up (which I do not think you are the kind of person to do). Thanks for sharing your work with us! Pluck |
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Interesting. On a different computer I can view all the pictures.
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thanks alot steve!!
the worst job had to the 55 caddy as a whole . everything was hand made except the rocker panels . scoops ,chopped, and rust repair custom back window .chopped stainless etc !! if your interested in the whole thread i can point you in its direction thanks Tommy!! now back to old Fords!! got the back panel all tied together today and primed since it would be a bear to do with it all together . tomorrow I get to tackle this which i doubt is going to be any fun either .
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I would love to see the caddy build.
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Also with the work to be done on the subrails it could have gone wrong very fast and folded like a house of cards. If the car was going to get finished I needed help to get it done. These days I can only get a few hours a week to devote to it and often when I finish my 120 mile commute each day I'm far too spent to head for the shop. Tom is several hundred miles from me and having him post progress pictures helps me see the work he is doing and to know that its in capable hands and progressing is a load off my mind. With all the stress of the last year being out of work for a while, moving my father-in-law to a nursing facility, we didn't need another worry wondering if we made the right choice in sending it to Tom.
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Hey Flop - Please post the link to your Caddy build. I, and probably some others, would like to see it.
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THANKS Miles!!
heres the link 28A http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...light=cadillac shop organizing day car needed some sunlight
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You do some nice work man. Keep the pics coming.
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I just looked over the thread on the Caddy. Nice work Flop. Anyone with an interest in good metal working skills should go have a look.
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A man of steel, only fitting that you would be from Pittsburgh. Great looking work!
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Still reading, still think your skills are great.
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thanks 28A !
thanks Jtown!! haha thanks person!! well the repop curved inner panel come with this fabulous trunk latch installed.. very happy Miles saved the one from the car. finally got everything lined up and fitting as it should the new parts with the old latch installed. works great!!
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That's shoddy work, not only welded instead of riveted, but twisted and bent too. With every picture you post It just reaffirms I made the right choice to send it up to you.
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I love to see this kind of dedication and good work. Another one saved.
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Glad to see some nice work. The Tig seems to be the way to go these days. I work mostly with MIG and Oxy/acety.
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thanks everybody! nice work tinbasher.
tig is the way to go in my opinion . the weld acts so much like the orig metal when you are getting it back into shape its amazing! heres the quarter patch . again about an eighth inch short .
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I removed this out of mine last night. Yes, it is a major pain in the backside.
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Thank you so much for the pics. They are great!
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hey thanks Curt!!
heres a youtube time lapse video i made today working on Miles wheels well today ! 2 hours worth of work put into 45 seconds http://youtu.be/oLZUIGYAXI0
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Flop, you are amazing!!! I am new to the hobby and have never seen body work done before. Your pictures and narrative have been a real treat and informative. Then to see that video of you actually working your magic totally blew my mind. Thank you for posting all of this great information.
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I sure wish I could find someone with your talent in California to work on my body. ;-(
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wtshnn it an app on my iphone called time lapse
hey thanks marshall hope it helps out ! lots of folks out there chris ! heres the last major patch put in Mile's coupe all welded up and ground down but only half finished
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Looks great, hope mine will look close to that. Keep up the good work.
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hey thanks gunmetal!!
bunch of progress passenger side finished ! pinholes in door and the under side of the panel in front of the door repaired . wheel well a quarter patch a corner patch and cowl patch !
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Flop you are a craftsman about how many hours do you have in this project to now.
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thanks old car guy . gonna end up being around 100 hours
some decklid rot patch in! all tied together extra nail holes everywhere!! alll cleaned up . holes filled
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all finished up!
and the underside thanks again everyone for following along !! hope you enjoyed the project!
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That looks quite a bit better than when you started!!
Is the "crease" across the trunk lid an optical illusion? Joe
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thanks joe !! yeah its just the picture heres another
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When you see your finished product it looks so easy but that's the mark of a pro. Nice work.
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Well there is no doubt , you are the MAN!!
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Ok not to nit pick a man when he says all is done on such excellent work but this must be a different model coupe that mine as their seems to be some missing metal above the door.
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The 'above the door' pieces were also worked on but are not in the picture. Without the wood to support them its kind of hard to have them just hang in mid air.
I picked it up yesterday and am very pleased with the work done. It was a 400 mile round trip and a very long day. The PA Turnpike must have known I was coming so they setup another accident and slowdown just for me. The last 3 times I've been on that fool drive it has happened. The price was reasonable and I hope that by Flop posting the pictures of the work done it gives people a chance to see his work and help him get more. He was meticulous with the work done and I would give him our car again in a heartbeat. He even prepped and painted the underside for me so it can go right on the frame. I won't have to make another trip to the paintshop at this point to keep going. I've gotten discouraged over the last year with the car to the point of dreading working on it but now that the metalwork is done I'm re-energized to keep moving. Tom, (flop) I know you'll read this and as I said I am very pleased with what you have done for us and I hope that using our car as a 'photo op' gets you more opportunities for your business.
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thanks Ross!!
thanks Hicktick! quite busy now a days on about 3 different fronts . model a's bigger bodied 30-40-50 cars and vintage motorscooters Roadster is coming up once the dust settles from the move Jeff!! hah theres a picture of those floating around somewhere tincup . had to filll in about 50 extra nail holes ! Thanks again Miles! I was great working with you .I am glad your father in law got to see his car and it gave you a new energy to get back on it!! heres a funny picture . waht 18 years in the car industry did.
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The photos show many attachment poins between the floorpans, seat riser and subrails. Are they spotwelds or rivets.
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