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Old 12-30-2018, 11:57 AM   #1
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Default To soak or not to soak

Is it necessary to soak the modern oil pan "rope" seal in oil?
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I did when I changed mine five years ago , changed oil since then and removed / cleaned pan and left rope in , still no leaks .
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I've always soaked them, never use grease. [ I know some do though]
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I don't soak but use STP prior to closing up!
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just did a pan gasget replace. my set had a lil note in there saying to soak the rope overnight
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It helps to preform the seal, like put it in a small diameter can!
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I always soak before use.
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It is not required that you pre-soak them, but you run a very strong is of scorching it during initial running. When the road becomes charred, it is easy for it to no longer seal against the pulley. The charring also has a way of scoring the pulley. We keep an old soda can cut in half with an inch of oil in the bottom just for soaking rope seals. How we keep it replenished is by tipping the empty bottles of oil that we fill crankcases with.
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Old 12-31-2018, 09:27 AM   #9
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Thanks boys.


Also, I have a few studs to keep the 2 large gaskets lined up (engine in the car). Additionally, in the past, I've used a few dabs of weather strip adhesive to keep the gaskets on the block. Is there an alternative to that adhesive that you guys use?


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Old 12-31-2018, 09:55 AM   #10
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Advice from myLocal mechanic that fixes my other vehicles


Clean surfaces well, but to scuff the surfaces a little (not completely smooth), then use your finger to skim coat the cork gasket with an anaerobic gasket sealer. The sealer stays a little flexible and adheres to the surfaces better since the surfaces are scuffed. Use new pan bolts and lock washers, Small amount of non-permanent Loctite on ends of bolts, and do not over tourqe the pan bolts.


Since I did this 3 years ago, no leaks.


Works for me, would be interested in comments from others if this is not an appropriate method.
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It is not required that you pre-soak them, but you run a very strong is of scorching it during initial running. When the road becomes charred, it is easy for it to no longer seal against the pulley. The charring also has a way of scoring the pulley. We keep an old soda can cut in half with an inch of oil in the bottom just for soaking rope seals. How we keep it replenished is by tipping the empty bottles of oil that we fill crankcases with.



Have seen that a number of times. Had to replace some seals that were greased or installed dry and then burnt to the point of not sealing.
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ive used a high quality high temp silicon gasget maker thin skim on gasget ea side. used the same stuff in the corners of the cork at the back. /
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Also, I have a few studs to keep the 2 large gaskets lined up (engine in the car). Additionally, in the past, I've used a few dabs of weather strip adhesive to keep the gaskets on the block. Is there an alternative to that adhesive that you guys use?
An old trick, instead of using adhesive was to tie the gasket to the oil pan w/thread at 2 or 3 places on either side, after some of the bolts are in place one can cut and remove the thread or leave it in place as it's thin enough that it won't be a problem.
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Thanks all


I'm using a non-cork gasket and the supplier specifically mentions to avoid any additional sealer. I've had luck with this type of material in the past but I just can't remember how I held it in place.
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Oh, one more thing.
I want to use some type of thread lock on the little oil return tube. The one that extends from the main to the pan. Do I need a high temp thread lock there?
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Thanks all


I'm using a non-cork gasket and the supplier specifically mentions to avoid any additional sealer. I've had luck with this type of material in the past but I just can't remember how I held it in place.

Perhaps these will work with your type gasket. Personally have not used them.


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Perhaps these will work with your type gasket. Personally have not used them.


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I use these and they are great. My club also uses them in our club shop. Holds the gasket right up. I bought 2 sets to put a couple in the middle.

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