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Old 08-11-2019, 04:55 AM   #1
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Default Tudor rear quarter window-How's that work?

I've got a '48 Tudor Sedan and am wondering about the proper operation of the rear quarter windows. When I move the regulator, the windows move to the rear and stop. Are they also supposed to roll down, or is the front venting all they are supposed to do?
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Default Re: Tudor rear quarter window-How's that work?

They also roll down. Turn the handle a bit more after closing from the vent position.
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They also roll down. Turn the handle a bit more after closing from the vent position.
So, I've got to turn the handle in the opposite direction to get them to roll down?
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Be bold.
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Yes, but I would not be overly bold, you don't want to bend something.

The glass is pushed forward by a big cam on the window regulator engaging a pin on the lower window channel attached to the glass. When the glass reaches fully-forward, the cam eccentric should have rotated to a point where it slips under that pin. Then the regulator is free to act like a conventional up-down regulator. Continued cranking in same direction should lower the window. You may feel a little resistance at the point where the cam slips past the pin. So yes, be a little bold.

The glass needs to be fully-forward at that point or the cam won't be able to get past the pin. For the first time you do this it might be a good idea to go slow, help slide the glass with your hands, and look for some obstruction/binding in the slide channels that may be keeping the glass from moving fully-forward.

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I've got a '48 Tudor Sedan and am wondering about the proper operation of the rear quarter windows. When I move the regulator, the windows move to the rear and stop. Are they also supposed to roll down, or is the front venting all they are supposed to do?
It may be time to lube the rollers and track.If nothing else has been changed that is a good place to start.
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Thanks for the advice. I didn't need to be too "bold", it moved fairly easily both ways after being un-stuck, but it certainly feels like it could use some lubrication at a minimum. I do have replacement anti-rattlers and glass, so I'll need to get to those chores at some point.
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Getting to point where I may attempt to replace the rear quarter glass. The Shop Manual only has instructions on replacing the swing-out glass in a coupe. Can anyone give me advice on replacing the sliding version in my Tudor?
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I replaced mine when the interior panels were off. You may want to do the same. Having a full view of the mechanism helps immensely.

Also, the garnishes need to come out.
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Old 03-07-2023, 08:38 AM   #10
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Finally getting back to replacing this glass, window regulators, etc., etc. Does the panel that appears to hold the regulator come off by taking off the 6 screws I've highlighted with arrows? Is that some sort of body sealant that is between that panel and the wheelwell?
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Make certain the new glass is positioned exactly where the old glass was in the channel or you can have problems with the mechanism working like intended. And prepare for some frustration. Job goes “ easier” with two people.
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Just so ya know, that feature was meant to allow ash from your cigarette to be flicked away.
Without losing all the cabin heat
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I don't recall removing that panel but there doesn't seem to be issue doing so. If it helps, take it off.

That goop looks a bit like roofing tar.
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Be careful it’s heavy .
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I don't see how to replace the window and window regulator without removing that panel.
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Sorry , yes I removed the panel .
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Do any of the screws in the middle of that panel adjust the height or travel of the window, like the one on the front window regulator, or do they just hold the regulator to that panel?
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