3.54 Gears in a 32-34 rear end...

[CWPASADENA]

Originally Posted by Kerk

What year Columbia had the round end on the outer end ? Kerk

I am not quite sure what you are asking. If you could be a little more specific, I am sure someone on The Barn will be able to answer you.


Chris

[jerry grayson]

Originally Posted by Lawson Cox

You can give them to your old buddy here and make him happy. LOL

You don't have a 1933-34 car. The gears for these two years are different than the later years. The ones I have are NOS 1933-34.

[Strick]

Originally Posted by jerry grayson

You don't have a 1933-34 car. The gears for these two years are different than the later years. The ones I have are NOS 1933-34.

Just curious Jerry. Would those gears fit in my stock late 32 rearend with scalloped (not round) torque tube mounting? Thanks, Keith Strickland

[jerry grayson]

Originally Posted by Strick

Just curious Jerry. Would those gears fit in my stock late 32 rearend with scalloped (not round) torque tube mounting? Thanks, Keith Strickland

To the best of my knowledge the parts are the same 32-34

[Richard (EV8G)]

As already mentioned, they will fit a LATE 32 "18" rear but WILL NOT fit an early 32 "B" rear.

[John R]

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Originally Posted by CWPASADENA

Anyway, properly done, a "Late" Columbia in an Early Ford really works well.

This is my experience,

Chris.

Will the Columbia axle and vacuum canister clear the right side floor pan in a 32 Sedan or 3-window coupe? Looks pretty tight to me.

[G.M.]

They clear everything on the 33 and I don't think the floor area is much differant on a 32. I have one in my 33 phaeton, 35 roadster, 36 roadster, 39 convertible, 39 convertible sedan and 39 P/U. All have 3:78 gears and operate great in all areas of the Eastern part of the country. None are "bullet proofed" and never had any problems. The 39 convertible has over 100,000 miles on it and shifts smooth, most times you don't hear it shift, I watch the speedometer and see it jiggle as the rear shifts. On trips I drive at 65 to 70 MPH for 12 or 14 hours just stopping for gas and the engine just purrs along at that speed. One thing is when you fill the rear you need to fill it to the new filler plug on the right side and drive it 2 or 3 miles and check it again. Everyone I put in needed more oil after the inital test drive, they get a little noisey when it is down a little but quiets up when filled. G.M.

[Randy]

Originally Posted by John R

Will the Columbia axle and vacuum canister clear the right side floor pan in a 32 Sedan or 3-window coupe? Looks pretty tight to me.

If you don't lower the car, it will probably clear just fine. I put a '41 Columbia rear in my '32 3W and was limited how much I could lower it by the clearance between the dropdown in the 3W floor and the vacuum shifter can. I added '34 frame bumpers to the frame rails for protection.

[John R]

Randy, Thanks for the info. Your real-world experience is much better than my eyeballing the fit. Looks like I'm good to go.

[John R]

BTW, the floorpans on closed-body 32s are majorly different than those in 33-34s. Also big difference between open and closed bodies. 32 closed floorpans are very restricted around the rear axle unlike open bodies and the 33-34s.

[hb32]

Attempting the same swap on an early 32 rear end. I have the correct 3.54 ring and pinion for the early rear but am wondering about the speedo gear. 700-16`s on the rear, C69A slightly warmed up, 39 transmission with common gears. What should I be looking for ?

[Old Redneck]

My buddy has just put 3.24 gears in his 40 2 door son. He having trouble finding a speedo gear for his car? He has not road tested as yet. I talk him in that and now scared a bit. I have 354 in my 35 pickup and it winds up at 55. I would like to go faster but afraid it would hurt the engine to go faster.

[JSeery]

You are not turning that many rpms at 55 mph! It is not going to hurt the engine!

rpm = (mph X gear ratio X 336) / tire diameter

(55 X 3.78 X 336) / 28 = 2,500 rpm

(55 X 4.11 X 336) / 28 = 2,700 rpm

(65 X 4.11 X 336) / 28 = 3,200 rpm

If any of these rpms levels are going to hurt your engine I would be looking for a new engine!!

[hb32]

Originally Posted by Randy

If you don't lower the car, it will probably clear just fine. I put a '41 Columbia rear in my '32 3W and was limited how much I could lower it by the clearance between the dropdown in the 3W floor and the vacuum shifter can. I added '34 frame bumpers to the frame rails for protection.

Very nice looking 3 window Randy

[DavidG]

Jerry,

With respect, the Columbia for the '33-'34s was available, but only as a unauthorized aftermarket installation. Ford did not release it as authorized dealer-installed "special equipment" until beyond the '36 model year.