Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Model A (1928-31)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-11-2019, 10:29 AM   #1
Steve Plucker
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA
Posts: 6,066
Default Repairing Castiron Sediment Bulbs

So you find that your Castiron Sediment Bulb has a small crack in it.

Did you repair it with success and just how did you do it or not?

Did you use:

Silver solder, Brass, JB Weld, Chuck it or other?

Thanks.

Pluck
Steve Plucker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2019, 11:20 AM   #2
Brentwood Bob
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: brentwood, ca
Posts: 4,245
Default Re: Repairing Castiron Sediment Bulbs

Steve, I would look for a good replacement.
Brentwood Bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 04-11-2019, 12:32 PM   #3
Purdy Swoft
Senior Member
 
Purdy Swoft's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Alabama
Posts: 8,099
Default Re: Repairing Castiron Sediment Bulbs

I first drill a small hole at the end of the crack to keep it from running any farther . I slightly V out the crack . I grind the metal around the crack for a better bond , I heat the area to be repaired, cherry red and use a brass rod to fill -repair the crack . I quickly put the sediment bowl in a box of sand and cover it up with sand to keep it from cooling too fast . This has worked well for me .

Last edited by Purdy Swoft; 04-11-2019 at 12:37 PM.
Purdy Swoft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2019, 12:39 PM   #4
BRENT in 10-uh-C
Senior Member
 
BRENT in 10-uh-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Posts: 11,513
Default Re: Repairing Castiron Sediment Bulbs

Steve, where is the crack? Is it in the outlet threads or elsewhere??
__________________
.

BRENT in 10-uh-C
.
www.model-a-ford.com
...(...Finally Updated!! )

.
BRENT in 10-uh-C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2019, 01:15 PM   #5
Werner
Senior Member
 
Werner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Germany, near Aachen
Posts: 1,158
Default Re: Repairing Castiron Sediment Bulbs

Hello Steve,


I made it like Bob. But I took a welding wire as a mix brass with silver with a lower melting point. Goes easy.
__________________
Beste Gruesse aus Deutschland,
Werner


Ford Model A, Roadster, 1928
Citroen 11 CV, 1947
Hercules W 2000, 1976; (with NSU-Wankel Rotary Engine), Canadian version
Werner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2019, 01:26 PM   #6
Steve Plucker
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA
Posts: 6,066
Default Re: Repairing Castiron Sediment Bulbs

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C View Post
Steve, where is the crack? Is it in the outlet threads or elsewhere??
Brent,

It is at the very bottom where the drain is...about 1/2 inch long.

I have another I can use...though.

Pluck
Steve Plucker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2019, 01:57 PM   #7
BRENT in 10-uh-C
Senior Member
 
BRENT in 10-uh-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Posts: 11,513
Default Re: Repairing Castiron Sediment Bulbs

Since you have another one to use, that is fine however I can tell you from experience that good units that have good threads are getting hard to find.


As mentioned above, pin the end of the crack, grind a minor Vee in the crack, preheat, then use an Aluminum Bronze rod and TIG the crack. Cover with a heat blanket and allow to cool and you should be OK. Something else to consider is that we have found rusty sediment bulbs to be a source of problems in a carburetor. We now use gas tank sealer and coat the insides of the bulb during restoration.
__________________
.

BRENT in 10-uh-C
.
www.model-a-ford.com
...(...Finally Updated!! )

.
BRENT in 10-uh-C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2019, 06:34 PM   #8
Steve Plucker
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA
Posts: 6,066
Default Re: Repairing Castiron Sediment Bulbs

Thanks Brent...

Yes, I am even finding that soaking the bulbs in Evaporust does not really do an inside job justice!

Pluck
Steve Plucker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 01:20 PM   #9
BRENT in 10-uh-C
Senior Member
 
BRENT in 10-uh-C's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Posts: 11,513
Default Re: Repairing Castiron Sediment Bulbs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Plucker View Post
Thanks Brent...

Yes, I am even finding that soaking the bulbs in Evaporust does not really do an inside job justice!

Pluck




Yes, my experiences are that Evaporust does not do well with crusty rust. We use stainless shot in a Rotoblaster to knock it all loose, but the problem is that once it is in bare metal, you then have the potential for rust to form again.


If you need a specific product for the cast welding on something other than an exhaust manifold, look for a brand called Muggy Weld that can be TIG welded.
__________________
.

BRENT in 10-uh-C
.
www.model-a-ford.com
...(...Finally Updated!! )

.
BRENT in 10-uh-C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 01:44 PM   #10
Benson
Senior Member
 
Benson's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,597
Default Re: Repairing Castiron Sediment Bulbs

We don't have much problem here in the Great Desert with water in the gasoline but I still remember the humidity problems from when I lived in Michigan, Rhode Island, NJ, Houston and Dallas.

And the Capitol of Humidity ... anywhere in Vietnam where "The Vietnamese National Bird" is a "B-52 Mosquito" that weighs more than 16 Oz and has a payload that exceeds a Huey UH1-B.

I check the sediment bowls, gas tank, Carburetor bowls regularly for water just out of habit.
Benson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 02:17 PM   #11
Steve Plucker
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA
Posts: 6,066
Default Re: Repairing Castiron Sediment Bulbs

Quote:
Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C View Post
Yes, my experiences are that Evaporust does not do well with crusty rust. We use stainless shot in a Rotoblaster to knock it all loose, but the problem is that once it is in bare metal, you then have the potential for rust to form again.


If you need a specific product for the cast welding on something other than an exhaust manifold, look for a brand called Muggy Weld that can be TIG welded.
Good thought...And that is where a can of Deisel Oil comes in handy.

Pluck
Steve Plucker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 04:27 PM   #12
Mad Mac
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 366
Default Re: Repairing Castiron Sediment Bulbs

The problem with my cast iron sediment bowl is that the thread is very short - its only holding on by a couple of turns. Is it a design fault to have so few threads? It is otherwise in good condition.
Mad Mac is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:33 AM.