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05-31-2013, 09:32 AM | #1 |
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What size socket set
I am going to buy a socket set to carry in the Model A. I would like to minimize the number of sockets but still have the most important ones in the set. My questions are:
6 point or 12 point 1/4 or 3/8 or 1/2 inch drive which size sockets Hopefully this will not turn into a "which type of oil" question.... |
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3/8 drive 7/16, 1/2, 9/16, 5/8, 11/16 . In some cases, you'll want a open end wrench to hold the nut. A medium size Crescent wrench. Three sizes of flat/straight blade screw drivers, Slip joint pliers, Vice grips. Small pry bar, and maybe a small hacksaw. and a medium size hammer. Most of this will fit inside an old ammo box and should be enough to get you home.
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Buy a set of Imperial measure not metric box / open end wrenches and then forget about the A breaking down. If you are obssessed with it breaking down better to sell it and take a bus !
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Also helpful is 2 foot or so length of pipe to fit over the handle of the socket wrench ... for extra leverage if someone overtightened a bolt!
Add 3/4 inch to the wrench sizes ... Generator bolt. Nice to have an eight inch socket extenstion to go behind and under the generator while turning with socket. If the fan belt is on the long side, the generator will be in such a way that you can not get to the bolts easily. Engine pans make access to the bolts harder. Also a 3/4 closed end wrench or another 3/4 socket with breaker bar to hold of the front of the bolt. Large Cresent wrench for Front wheel nut. Assortment of cotter keys. THe problem WILL happen in place where if you drop one you can not find it. A magnet is good for finding such small parts in the grass! Bailing wire is nice to have! Unrelated to Model As: Always carry an extra handset for your PRC-25 ... the coiled cord WILL catch on something and break the wires inside the cord!! Last edited by Benson; 05-31-2013 at 01:18 PM. |
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My take on traveling sockets: Get a good 3/8 set, supplement it with 1/2" long breaker with down to 3/8 adaptor (GOOD 3/8 sockets will take a lot if necessary) with 1/2 drive 13/16 lug nut socket and 11/16 headnut and any other high torque stuff you might have to deal with.
Be sure to install your lugs with original lug crank or the 3/8 set, NEVER the big one, but the big one will be very nice for removal. There will be some sockets in the common sets you never use but you cannot make a good call on that until you have done a lot of wrenching and know your car well. Put all the sockets in their tray upside down...then in 5 years you may toss all the ones that are STILL upside down! |
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I'm not familiar with the term Imperial, do you mean SAE or American inch measurements? Is that similar to Imperial Quart..like in Canada?
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If you plan to do some touring and you carry a fan belt (a good idea), make sure you have an 6 inch or so extension for your socket wrench so that you can get to the bolt under the generator.
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Even if it did break, what would it hurt? How far could we drive without a fan belt? I'm thinking quite a ways. |
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Why not just get triple A & leave the tools home!
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Yes. Imperial is a term used by old hosers to refer to any unit of measure that differs from its american counterpart. It goes back to the days when Canada was considered a colony of the commonwealth of England. You may have also heard the term Imperial gallon which is larger than the US gallon (4.5 liters vs 3.78 liters to a us gal) To get even more anal, the proper hoser way to spell it is litre. You have to be careful when talking mpg numbers with a Canadian, because some hoseheads still do their calculations based on the Imperial gallon, which makes them feel better because they think they are getting better mpg numbers.
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So why not leave the belt off and just drive on to the top of the mountain? As long as you are moving 10mph or faster, there will be plenty of air moving across the fins to adequately cool. Been proven over & over.
I am curious though, do these belts break on Alternators because a generator shouldn't have any tension on the belt to cause it to break. |
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American correct spelling is liter, British/ROA (Rest Of Anglosphere) is "litre". Canada uses its own and somewhat arbitrary hybrid of US and English English meaning I find it more odd linguistically to be in Canada than the UK. In Britain you KNOW what is correct, in Canada it's a guess. Whenever I'm up there I wind up asking the price of "petrol" and so forth making me seem weird to the locals. Canada used the Imperial gallon, but not such other British units of measure as "stone" for people's weight. "All the women in Calgary weigh nineteen stone" would mystify rather than outrage out of sheer obscurity. |
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Brent, I am no mechanic but my question is: Why did Ford put a fan and water pump on the A in the first place? I am not trying to argue and not trying to carry this discussion on and on but I am confused. Do we really need these items on the A???? Please explain.
Don't know about the tension on the alternator. I have generators on my rigs. This fellow may have had it to tight.
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As for tools, I carry a cheap set of, HF sockets, open end wrench's, screwdrivers. I have an extra socket for the lug nuts and an extension for the wrench. I have used my tools to help others far more than working on my own. I have a tow strap (never used) ignition parts (condenser, points) and a fan belt. That's about it. OH almost forget I have a collapsible 5 gal water jug.
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They put it on for good reason, but most older cars will run okay under highway speeds with only thermosiphon. That's why the put thermostatic fan clutches on later cars. You need the fan when stopped and idling or moving slowly in hot weather. At speed much more air comes through from the relative wind than a fan could move. If the belt breaks you can run at moderate speeds in cooler temperatures just fine. |
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