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andyg · 03-27-2011, 12:08 PM

I recently bought a 1940 tudor sedan that did not have the front door glass or vents in the car. I am trying to figure out how to mount the channel that guides the front side of the door glass (big stanless strip that the glass is set into).

I think the previous restorer may have used a 39 door.

PLEASE post pics or email me pics of your 40 inner door structure and any other pics you may think useful.

Thanks so much!

okiedokie · 03-27-2011, 12:22 PM

Will these help?

andyg · 03-27-2011, 12:41 PM

thanks a ton. both the 1st and 2nd pic's show where that channel riveted to the inner structure of the door. my doors don't have those holes but i can drill them easy enough.

any chance of a measurement as to exact location of that channel in the door?

okiedokie · 03-27-2011, 01:03 PM

Not sure you can do what you want. Are you restoring the tudor? If not, I would consider using 39 parts and eliminate the vent windows. I don't beleive you can use the 40 garnish mouldings on 39 doors. Maybe someone that does know will chime in here. I will be happy to measure anything you need. If you need 39 garnish mouldings, I may have a pair.

andyg · 03-27-2011, 01:20 PM

i think all i need is the location of the front rivet center line to the the inside front edge of the door. a level accurate measement would be fantastic. i will post some pics after while. yours also looks to have a big channel in the back side of the door too. i don't have that but looks like it could be easily made. thanks for the help!

i'm also missing the vent latch handles if you know of anyone that has a couple pretty good ones.

okiedokie · 03-27-2011, 02:34 PM

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This help? As you can see the vent window edge channel is held with screws, the back of door channel is rivited to the door frame. You might be able to purchase good used pieces from Baxter Ford. Let me know what else might help.

andyg · 03-27-2011, 02:47 PM

thanks so much. that will work. by the way...do you know any of the guys at "The Hotrod Garage". I just noticed you were in Tulsa. Anyway...thanks a million!

okiedokie · 03-27-2011, 03:02 PM

I know Jim and Jason fairly well. Lusting after Jim's new 46 delivery since I saw it at Goodguys last weekend. Of course I have been lusting after almost every car he has had [many] for the past 20 years or so. Good luck on the 40.

andyg · 03-27-2011, 03:41 PM

lol...i was working over there when he bought that black 32 5 window...built in the 60's but more 50's style...flatty with 3sp ford tranny....no rust ever....got to drive it at nsra springfield that year and oh man was it love at first shift!!! LOL

haven't heard about the Jim's 46 delivery....Jason's must be holding out on me!

okiedokie · 03-27-2011, 05:09 PM

This is it.

03-27-2011, 12:08 PM	#1
andyg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Springfield,MO Posts: 107	1940 door window help needed...PLEASE! I recently bought a 1940 tudor sedan that did not have the front door glass or vents in the car. I am trying to figure out how to mount the channel that guides the front side of the door glass (big stanless strip that the glass is set into). I think the previous restorer may have used a 39 door. PLEASE post pics or email me pics of your 40 inner door structure and any other pics you may think useful. Thanks so much!

03-27-2011, 12:41 PM	#3
andyg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Springfield,MO Posts: 107	Re: 1940 door window help needed...PLEASE! thanks a ton. both the 1st and 2nd pic's show where that channel riveted to the inner structure of the door. my doors don't have those holes but i can drill them easy enough. any chance of a measurement as to exact location of that channel in the door?

03-27-2011, 01:03 PM	#4
okiedokie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tulsa Ok Posts: 519	Re: 1940 door window help needed...PLEASE! Not sure you can do what you want. Are you restoring the tudor? If not, I would consider using 39 parts and eliminate the vent windows. I don't beleive you can use the 40 garnish mouldings on 39 doors. Maybe someone that does know will chime in here. I will be happy to measure anything you need. If you need 39 garnish mouldings, I may have a pair.

03-27-2011, 01:20 PM	#5
andyg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Springfield,MO Posts: 107	Re: 1940 door window help needed...PLEASE! i think all i need is the location of the front rivet center line to the the inside front edge of the door. a level accurate measement would be fantastic. i will post some pics after while. yours also looks to have a big channel in the back side of the door too. i don't have that but looks like it could be easily made. thanks for the help! i'm also missing the vent latch handles if you know of anyone that has a couple pretty good ones.

03-27-2011, 02:47 PM	#7
andyg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Springfield,MO Posts: 107	Re: 1940 door window help needed...PLEASE! thanks so much. that will work. by the way...do you know any of the guys at "The Hotrod Garage". I just noticed you were in Tulsa. Anyway...thanks a million!

03-27-2011, 03:02 PM	#8
okiedokie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tulsa Ok Posts: 519	Re: 1940 door window help needed...PLEASE! I know Jim and Jason fairly well. Lusting after Jim's new 46 delivery since I saw it at Goodguys last weekend. Of course I have been lusting after almost every car he has had [many] for the past 20 years or so. Good luck on the 40.

03-27-2011, 03:41 PM	#9
andyg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Springfield,MO Posts: 107	Re: 1940 door window help needed...PLEASE! lol...i was working over there when he bought that black 32 5 window...built in the 60's but more 50's style...flatty with 3sp ford tranny....no rust ever....got to drive it at nsra springfield that year and oh man was it love at first shift!!! LOL haven't heard about the Jim's 46 delivery....Jason's must be holding out on me!