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Old 04-27-2020, 07:10 AM   #1
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I replaced my original dual vacuum distributor on my 55 272 with a 57 single vacuum distributor
the original had a place to oil the 57 oiler has a plastic plug
do I have to oil?
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Old 04-27-2020, 09:01 AM   #2
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Not seeing or knowing for sure which distributor you have is a disadvantage but,
if you can remove and replace the plug without damaging it you should use it to oil the distributor shaft. The plastic plug is likely a cheap substitute for the original spring-loaded metal cap.

If you can post a couple photos of the inside & outside of the distributor or include the casting/part number that may help avoid confusion. Do you know that it's actually a '57 distributor, or were you told that it is? It may or may not make a difference.

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Old 04-27-2020, 06:54 PM   #3
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I replaced my original dual vacuum distributor on my 55 272 with a 57 single vacuum distributor

the original had a place to oil the 57 oiler has a plastic plug
do I have to oil?
Are you the gentleman that had another member here pump up your 272 with earlier engine parts and a 1956 dual diaphragm LOM DIST?

What DUAL ADVANCE DIST was used to replace the LOM?
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Old 04-27-2020, 07:06 PM   #4
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The stock type oil cup and cover is available after market if looking for one. CASCO lists it, I assume it is the same for a sedan distributor as a Tbird unit. Part # 310141 S
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Old 04-27-2020, 07:09 PM   #5
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I think he is referring to the dual vacuum cans used on 56 Fords, although he said he had a 55.


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Are you the gentleman that had another member here pump up your 272 with earlier engine parts and a 1956 dual diaphragm LOM DIST?

What DUAL ADVANCE DIST was used to replace the LOM?
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Old 04-27-2020, 09:15 PM   #6
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I don't know if it has already been said, but the engine will not perform correctly by dropping in a '57 and later distributor with mechanical advance unless you ALSO replace the original loadomatic carburetor with a '57 or later style carb.
That may cause other issues; such as having to swap intake manifolds and/or carburetor mechanical linkage and do all the adjustments, depending upon whether or not you have 2-bbl or 4-bbl carb and manual or Ford-o-matic transmission.
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Old 04-27-2020, 09:48 PM   #7
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I don't know if it has already been said, but the engine will not perform correctly by dropping in a '57 and later distributor with mechanical advance unless you ALSO replace the original loadomatic carburetor with a '57 or later style carb.
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cvicky, here's the reason why...
The vacuum timing advance canister(s) on a '56 or earlier Loadomatic distributor needs a vacuum signal of 0 to 5 inches of vacuum to control the timing correctly. The '56 and earlier carburetors provide that.

The vacuum canister on a '57+ distributor uses 5 to 20 inches of vacuum, provided by a '57 or newer carburetor.
By itself the mechanical timing advance of a '57+ distributor is a big step forward compared to the earlier distributors, having the vacuum canister working correctly helps even more.

If the engine currently has one of the older carburetors it may be possible to modify it to provide the vacuum levels needed for a '57+ distributor. See this link...
http://www.eatonbalancing.com/2013/0...-distributors/
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Old 04-28-2020, 08:21 PM   #8
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it seems to be working with my 4 barrel holley t pot and three speed manual trans
I m on the lower vacuum and pluged the upper vacuum

and no I did not pump up 272

who is casco
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it seems to be working with my 4 barrel holley t pot and three speed manual trans
I m on the lower vacuum and pluged the upper vacuum
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Yes it will work, but unless the carb is modified neither fitting will supply the right vacuum level for a '57+ distributor.
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who is casco
Casco is a parts supplier that specializes in '55/'57 T-Birds, but many of the parts are interchangeable.
at this link...
https://www.classictbird.com/

The replacement distributor oiler cap paul2748 mentioned...
https://www.classictbird.com/Oil-Cup...tinfo/310141S/
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Old 04-29-2020, 08:15 PM   #10
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how can I modify t pot to work with 57 distributor

ive tried to get dual vacuum distributor woth no luck

any ideas
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Old 04-29-2020, 08:46 PM   #11
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how can I modify t pot to work with 57 distributor

ive tried to get dual vacuum distributor woth no luck

any ideas
Back in reply # 7 there is a link to an article from Eaton Balancing with the step-by-step How-To...
I don't have one of the Holley 4000 teapot carbs and haven't done the modification.

"dual vacuum distributor" Is this the type you're talking about? First three photos below...
This version is specific to '56.

A '55 intake manifold and 4bbl carburetor will look like the ones shown in the fourth photo.
Especially notice the location of the choke thermostat on the intake manifold.

Last photo... a '57 distributor
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Old 04-29-2020, 09:07 PM   #12
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yes carb and distributor look very close and I finally read eatons distributor thx

im just learning computer and Ford barn I wish I would have met you 4 years ago

the coil was no good contradicting all tests t pot was gummed up and seezed

and the distributor well … still I night mare oh and who ever adjusted valves
0 compression #4 cylinder #7 about 90 now they are all over 120 thx again
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Old 04-30-2020, 07:31 AM   #13
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oh and oil pump shaft to distributor was to long rotar was hitting top of cap

I don't know if its distributor related but when cruising at constant speed there is a very slite surge

I know how to email pics but don't know how to put on this site like you did
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Old 04-30-2020, 04:37 PM   #14
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yes I compared pics to my 57 distributor and t pot carb they are the same
someone earlier was saying dual vacuum was only in 56
my car is defenatly a 55 Fairlane the letters on the block indicate 272 even though the paperwork I got from estate says 292 everything else cheques out
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Old 04-30-2020, 05:07 PM   #15
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oh and oil pump shaft to distributor was to long rotar was hitting top of cap ...
It may be the wrong cap for the distributor??? I believe the caps for '56 and older are slightly smaller than the '57 and newer caps, they aren't the same size.
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yes I compared pics to my 57 distributor and t pot carb they are the same
someone earlier was saying dual vacuum was only in 56
my car is defenatly a 55 Fairlane the letters on the block indicate 272 even though the paperwork I got from estate says 292 everything else cheques out
Please look closer at these two pictures. The distributor with the double sided vacuum canister is only '56.
It has a pair of visible springs inside (1st photo) and a different style rotor than the '57/'59 version. (2nd photo)
Which one are you referring to as trying to use on the engine?

It's not directly related to which distributors you have but,
which letters on the block tell you it's a 272 and where are they located?
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Old 05-01-2020, 02:56 PM   #16
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my dual vacuum distributor has 2 springs and a large rotar FTD12127-B2 634 came on my 55 Fairlane

my second distributor single canister with bent arm and silver plates inside small rotar markings are worn off will work with adjustments on T pot

engine code ECG 16 top back of engine left of distributor

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Old 05-01-2020, 08:48 PM   #17
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In the second picture, it looks like you have an electronic kit installed (hard to see) as there is two wires coming out of it The bent arm vacuum units came on late 59 to 64?. Can you see what the number is on the side?
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Old 05-01-2020, 10:20 PM   #18
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my dual vacuum distributor has 2 springs and a large rotar FTD12127-B2 634 came on my 55 Fairlane

my second distributor single canister with bent arm and silver plates inside small rotar markings are worn off will work with adjustments on T pot

engine code ECG 16 top back of engine left of distributor
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FYI, the distributor in your first photo is a '56 specific version, with a points conversion kit installed.

"ECG" next to the hole for the distributor is for a '55 to '57 272 block cast in Dearborn. (first photo below)
There is an engine block casting number chart at this link...
http://ford-y-block.com/Block%20identification.htm

The carburetor in your third and forth photos is a bit hard to see overall, but it may be a '56. There are part numbers on the rear of the carb's base-plate. A '56 4bbl carb has the choke thermostat mounted on the passenger side. (photo 2)
The number across the back of the intake manifold behind the carburetor might be ECZ-9425-A ???

Yes a ('55 or) '56 4bbl carburetor can be modified to work with the newer '59 / '64 distributor shown in your second photo. See this Eaton Balancing link...
http://www.eatonbalancing.com/2013/0...-distributors/

A '55 4bbl carburetor has the choke thermostat mounted low on the intake manifold. (photo 3)
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Old 05-02-2020, 08:33 AM   #19
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1st pic mine ECZ
2nd ECG 16 and my choke is on carb like pic
Pertronix ignitor instead of points
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Old 05-02-2020, 08:36 AM   #20
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is 59-64 distributor a beter set up
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