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Adam/Mill Valley CA · 03-13-2016, 08:07 AM

I've been using this for years in all of my cars and motorcycles, including my '36, as an easy way to get adequate zinc levels in the oil.I don't own a vehicle with a catalytic converter (my modern car is a diesel). Went to my local NAPA yesterday and the counter guy said it has been ordered off the shelves, presumably by the California State Air Resources Board. Yet another intrusion on my life by the Great State of California!! Can't wait for them to mandate GPS tracking of my driving in order to increase the road taxes-that's when I'll finally leave! Rant over.

Adam

texas webb · 03-13-2016, 08:55 AM

Bummer!

Dak Rat · 03-13-2016, 09:12 AM

I have it shipped in from "Summit". Buy enough to get over the $100 free shipping total and it comes right to your door. Its also cheaper than NAPA from them.

petes 50 merc · 03-13-2016, 12:31 PM

i bought 2 cases a couple years ago at auto zone when it was on sale for $3.59 a quart .i use it in my merc and 67 ranchero should last me a long time.

Pete · 03-13-2016, 01:32 PM

You may be able to still get the VAL855 because it is rated "for off road only".
It is more expensive but works fine.

Bored&Stroked · 03-13-2016, 02:07 PM

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This kind of crap was one of the reasons I left that State -- miss the weather, ocean, family and friends - but I sure don't miss the Fxxxing CA government and all the BS they shove down your throat . . . and then tax the living crap out of you for the pleasure. Got to a point - it was just not worth it . . .

Thanks for firing up my rant!

khschs · 03-13-2016, 02:47 PM

Me too Bro.

Pete · 03-13-2016, 04:22 PM

I have to go there on business ocassionally and I hate it.

petehoovie · 03-13-2016, 05:00 PM

Americas Greece - The Banana Republic of California. It's one party government mobbed up by corrupt government unions, socialists/liberals, pseudo victims, enviro-nazis, nannies and lobbyists. California should be invaded by Red China to give it Democracy!....

A bones · 03-13-2016, 05:26 PM

Time to put on the right signal, apply the brake, find a safe place, pull off the road, set the park brake and check the map.

Adam/Mill Valley CA · 03-13-2016, 07:33 PM

I'll try Summit although I'm wondering now if they will be able to ship it to California. Obviously there are other sources of ZDDP additive (at least for now), it's the state intrusion that gets me. Yes I understand this is not so critical for flatheads, but I have a bunch of other flat tappet vehicles where it probably is significant. I go through a lot of oil, the flattie ('36 poured bearing 221 motor) gets changed every 1000 mi, the BMW and Triumph every 1000 miles, Alfa every 3000, etc.
Along those lines, how about the EPA's current attempt to force all vehicles driven in racing competition to have completely intact emissions equipment, the same as if they were driven on the road,or face a $37,500 fine?!!

Adam

Bassman/NZ · 03-13-2016, 08:23 PM

It's hot-rodding Jim, but not as we know it......

HCO41 · 03-14-2016, 06:50 AM

Unfortunatly Vermont is also a nanny state. All these new regs. are the work of those who never created anything or had the pleasure of starting up an old engine or knocking out a dent in a 16 ga. fender.
HINT: Take a real close look at our choices for November.
Howard

ct1932ford · 03-14-2016, 08:41 AM

CA. sucks more than CT. But I am sure if CA. is doing it CT. will be next. I also use VR-1 and have been for years. Good stuff.

expavr · 03-14-2016, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bored&Stroked

This kind of crap was one of the reasons I left that State -- miss the weather, ocean, family and friends - but I sure don't miss the Fxxxing CA government and all the BS they shove down your throat . . . and then tax the living crap out of you for the pleasure. Got to a point - it was just not worth it . . .

Thanks for firing up my rant!

X2. I couldn't have said it better. Count me in that group who voted with their feet.

Tim Ayers · 03-14-2016, 11:44 AM

Man, the wife and I were thinking of moving to SoCal during retirement. May need to reconsider.

We loved it when we visited there over the past two summers. Seems like a great place, with amazing weather, and pretty cool people. May need to look a little deeper under the covers...

expavr · 03-14-2016, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Ayers

Man, the wife and I were thinking of moving to SoCal during retirement. May need to reconsider.

We loved it when we visited there over the past two summers. Seems like a great place, with amazing weather, and pretty cool people. May need to look a little deeper under the covers...

Make sure you check the income tax consequences. As a resident of CA all retirement income (IRA, 401K, etc) except SS will be taxed. The last time I checked CA was the 4th highest taxed location in the nation for retirees. (NJ, NY, ILL, CA). You could be jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

'36 5W · 03-14-2016, 12:08 PM

But to get back to the question posed; go with Chevron Delo 400; 1480ppm zinc, the last time I checked a couple of years ago..

Tim Ayers · 03-14-2016, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by expavr

Make sure you check the income tax consequences. As a resident of CA all retirement income (IRA, 401K, etc) except SS will be taxed. The last time I checked CA was the 4th highest taxed location in the nation for retirees. (NJ, NY, ILL, CA). You could be jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

Well, I'm in NJ now so maybe CA will be considered a tax break for me. Yeah, I should do some more research, but we loved the weather and people. May pay a premium for the atmosphere.

greencom · 03-14-2016, 04:22 PM

What about this? Maybe the "not street legal" oil is the way to go, makes sense.
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...ht-it-was.html

03-13-2016, 08:07 AM	#1
Adam/Mill Valley CA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mill Valley,CA Posts: 275	Valvoline VR-1 Racing I've been using this for years in all of my cars and motorcycles, including my '36, as an easy way to get adequate zinc levels in the oil.I don't own a vehicle with a catalytic converter (my modern car is a diesel). Went to my local NAPA yesterday and the counter guy said it has been ordered off the shelves, presumably by the California State Air Resources Board. Yet another intrusion on my life by the Great State of California!! Can't wait for them to mandate GPS tracking of my driving in order to increase the road taxes-that's when I'll finally leave! Rant over. Adam __________________ 1936 pickup, stock, black 1965 Mustang coupe 289/4bbl, black/red 1971 Alfa Romeo GTV 1750 coupe, dark red/tan 1970 911E 2.2 litre dark blue/black 1968 BMW R50/2 US, black (m'cycle) 1967 Triumph TR6R , sea foam/cream (m'cycle) 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 red (m'cycle) 1974 Honda CB750 red (m'cycle) 2000 Kawasaki W650 blue/silver (m'cycle)

03-13-2016, 08:55 AM	#2
texas webb Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Antonio Texas Posts: 636	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing Bummer!

03-13-2016, 09:12 AM	#3
Dak Rat Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Minot, ND Posts: 217	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing I have it shipped in from "Summit". Buy enough to get over the $100 free shipping total and it comes right to your door. Its also cheaper than NAPA from them.

03-13-2016, 12:31 PM	#4
petes 50 merc Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northern California Posts: 44	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing i bought 2 cases a couple years ago at auto zone when it was on sale for $3.59 a quart .i use it in my merc and 67 ranchero should last me a long time.

03-13-2016, 01:32 PM	#5
Pete Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wa. Posts: 5,405	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing You may be able to still get the VAL855 because it is rated "for off road only". It is more expensive but works fine.

03-13-2016, 02:07 PM	#6
Bored&Stroked Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 5,062	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) This kind of crap was one of the reasons I left that State -- miss the weather, ocean, family and friends - but I sure don't miss the Fxxxing CA government and all the BS they shove down your throat . . . and then tax the living crap out of you for the pleasure. Got to a point - it was just not worth it . . . Thanks for firing up my rant!

03-13-2016, 02:47 PM	#7
khschs Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 70	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing Me too Bro.

03-13-2016, 04:22 PM	#8
Pete Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wa. Posts: 5,405	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing I have to go there on business ocassionally and I hate it.

03-13-2016, 05:00 PM	#9
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,074	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing Americas Greece - The Banana Republic of California. It's one party government mobbed up by corrupt government unions, socialists/liberals, pseudo victims, enviro-nazis, nannies and lobbyists. California should be invaded by Red China to give it Democracy!.... __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

03-13-2016, 05:26 PM	#10
A bones Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: CLAYTON DE Posts: 1,282	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing Time to put on the right signal, apply the brake, find a safe place, pull off the road, set the park brake and check the map. __________________ Enjoy yer day. Tom Hate can't fix what it started.

03-13-2016, 07:33 PM	#11
Adam/Mill Valley CA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mill Valley,CA Posts: 275	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing I'll try Summit although I'm wondering now if they will be able to ship it to California. Obviously there are other sources of ZDDP additive (at least for now), it's the state intrusion that gets me. Yes I understand this is not so critical for flatheads, but I have a bunch of other flat tappet vehicles where it probably is significant. I go through a lot of oil, the flattie ('36 poured bearing 221 motor) gets changed every 1000 mi, the BMW and Triumph every 1000 miles, Alfa every 3000, etc. Along those lines, how about the EPA's current attempt to force all vehicles driven in racing competition to have completely intact emissions equipment, the same as if they were driven on the road,or face a $37,500 fine?!! Adam __________________ 1936 pickup, stock, black 1965 Mustang coupe 289/4bbl, black/red 1971 Alfa Romeo GTV 1750 coupe, dark red/tan 1970 911E 2.2 litre dark blue/black 1968 BMW R50/2 US, black (m'cycle) 1967 Triumph TR6R , sea foam/cream (m'cycle) 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 red (m'cycle) 1974 Honda CB750 red (m'cycle) 2000 Kawasaki W650 blue/silver (m'cycle)

03-13-2016, 08:23 PM	#12
Bassman/NZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napier, New Zealand Posts: 2,001	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing It's hot-rodding Jim, but not as we know it......

03-14-2016, 06:50 AM	#13
HCO41 Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Lyndon, Vt. Posts: 456	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing Unfortunatly Vermont is also a nanny state. All these new regs. are the work of those who never created anything or had the pleasure of starting up an old engine or knocking out a dent in a 16 ga. fender. HINT: Take a real close look at our choices for November. Howard Last edited by HCO41; 03-14-2016 at 07:08 AM.

03-14-2016, 08:41 AM	#14
ct1932ford Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: CT. Posts: 596	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing CA. sucks more than CT. But I am sure if CA. is doing it CT. will be next. I also use VR-1 and have been for years. Good stuff. __________________ A man should do what he thinks best! "The Duke"

03-14-2016, 11:44 AM	#16
Tim Ayers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 6,177	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing Man, the wife and I were thinking of moving to SoCal during retirement. May need to reconsider. We loved it when we visited there over the past two summers. Seems like a great place, with amazing weather, and pretty cool people. May need to look a little deeper under the covers...

03-14-2016, 12:08 PM	#18
'36 5W Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Vancouver, Wa. Posts: 193	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing But to get back to the question posed; go with Chevron Delo 400; 1480ppm zinc, the last time I checked a couple of years ago..

03-14-2016, 04:22 PM	#20
greencom Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Gettysburg,PA Posts: 10	Re: Valvoline VR-1 Racing What about this? Maybe the "not street legal" oil is the way to go, makes sense. http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...ht-it-was.html Last edited by greencom; 03-15-2016 at 07:28 PM.

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