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npmpu · 03-18-2019, 08:02 PM

Hi,
Im just wondering if there is a modern seal that will fit to replace the original dust ring cover on the front inner bearing side?

This is on a model T speedster so i am not running front brakes.

larrys40 · 03-18-2019, 09:14 PM

None that I am aware of if you are using stock a hubs and spindles. The std retainer ring should work irregardless if brakes

Joe K · 03-19-2019, 09:16 AM

And we are talking a hub where Ford didn't even provide the exterior "cup" cover until after 1931.

No question total seal would be an improvement - it is where the industry went shortly after the Model A era.

Given one of the rings in your hand, you should be able to caliper it up and find a seal type replacement. A "knife edge" type rubber is where you want to go (no springs or energizing.) https://www.mcmaster.com/5154t59 might be a start.

But I think for most, they have more pressing problems in a restoration and choose to leave the engineering to Ford - such as it was.

Joe K

updraught · 03-19-2019, 07:16 PM

A speedster with no front brakes.

katy · 03-20-2019, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by updraught

A speedster with no front brakes.

It's a Model T speedster, they didn't have front brakes.

redmodelt · 03-20-2019, 10:58 AM

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Not much to go on except it was added it is a T speedster. The poster does not say what wheels and hubs are being used. The only way to use A spindles would be to change out the whole front axle anyway. The T hubs would have seals. As it is, should be in the T section.

Some T speedsters guys do add front brakes.

npmpu · 04-03-2019, 04:06 PM

I used model A hubs and model A wire wheels on my model T speedster. There are no front brakes....that's the issue so there is no backing plate where the seal cup would normally go on a typical model A. I ended up finding a seal that was able to fit behind the inner wheel bearing.
Sorry i should of been more clear with my question. Thanks for the replies.

katy · 04-04-2019, 10:19 AM

Quote:

there is no backing plate where the seal cup would normally go

Front hub seals typically ride on the spindle, not the backing plate.

Kurt in NJ · 04-04-2019, 12:48 PM

Measure the hub, measure the spindle without the dust shield , figure a thickness that will work, either post sizes, or go to old auto parts store and look in seal book by sizes

03-18-2019, 08:02 PM	#1
npmpu Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 2	Model A Inner Wheel Seal Hi, Im just wondering if there is a modern seal that will fit to replace the original dust ring cover on the front inner bearing side? This is on a model T speedster so i am not running front brakes. Last edited by npmpu; 03-18-2019 at 08:52 PM.

03-18-2019, 09:14 PM	#2
larrys40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St Charles , Missouri Posts: 1,998	Re: Model A Inner Wheel Seal None that I am aware of if you are using stock a hubs and spindles. The std retainer ring should work irregardless if brakes

03-19-2019, 09:16 AM	#3
Joe K Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,188	Re: Model A Inner Wheel Seal And we are talking a hub where Ford didn't even provide the exterior "cup" cover until after 1931. No question total seal would be an improvement - it is where the industry went shortly after the Model A era. Given one of the rings in your hand, you should be able to caliper it up and find a seal type replacement. A "knife edge" type rubber is where you want to go (no springs or energizing.) https://www.mcmaster.com/5154t59 might be a start. But I think for most, they have more pressing problems in a restoration and choose to leave the engineering to Ford - such as it was. Joe K __________________ Shudda kept the horse.

03-19-2019, 07:16 PM	#4
updraught Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 1,969	Re: Model A Inner Wheel Seal A speedster with no front brakes.

03-20-2019, 10:58 AM	#6
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,340	Re: Model A Inner Wheel Seal Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Not much to go on except it was added it is a T speedster. The poster does not say what wheels and hubs are being used. The only way to use A spindles would be to change out the whole front axle anyway. The T hubs would have seals. As it is, should be in the T section. Some T speedsters guys do add front brakes. __________________ I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!

04-03-2019, 04:06 PM	#7
npmpu Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 2	Re: Model A Inner Wheel Seal I used model A hubs and model A wire wheels on my model T speedster. There are no front brakes....that's the issue so there is no backing plate where the seal cup would normally go on a typical model A. I ended up finding a seal that was able to fit behind the inner wheel bearing. Sorry i should of been more clear with my question. Thanks for the replies.

04-04-2019, 12:48 PM	#9
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,155	Re: Model A Inner Wheel Seal Measure the hub, measure the spindle without the dust shield , figure a thickness that will work, either post sizes, or go to old auto parts store and look in seal book by sizes

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