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Jack E/NJ · 02-24-2012, 07:34 PM

The middle one looks like a sub-watt indicator lamp. I think you're right about the halogen drawing as much as or even more than the big bulb. Also, I seem to recall that the old thermal flashers flashed faster, not slower, when trailer lights were added to the circuit.

Jack E/NJ

BillM · 02-24-2012, 08:08 PM

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Maybe I will just try wiring another of the big bulb on the left into the circuit and see what happens.

Try it both in series and parallel. If your flasher is a thermal type I believe you will find that two bulbs in parallel will flash faster: less resistance. Two bulbs in series should flash slower.

Jack E/NJ · 02-24-2012, 08:15 PM

Yeah, Bill, good idea. I wonder if maybe the bulb somehow drew more current than the flasher can was designed for. Henry, were you originally trying to flash the halogen bulb? It may be drawing too much current.

Jack E/NJ

FlatheadTed · 02-24-2012, 11:07 PM

I use a 12 flasher on 6 volt but wired into each side a std 12volt tail light bolb to get it to work .it flashes under the dash

Old Henry · 02-24-2012, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack E/NJ

Yeah, Bill, good idea. I wonder if maybe the bulb somehow drew more current than the flasher can was designed for. Henry, were you originally trying to flash the halogen bulb? It may be drawing too much current.

Jack E/NJ

I started just trying to flash the 1.5 cp bulb alone. It wouldn't even flash, not enough load. So, I added the 1 ohm resistor parallel with the bulb which added more load, less resistance and it flashed but too fast. I then added a buzzer in parallel with the bulb and resistor so I wouldn't leave it on. No change in speed. I then installed the halogen bulbs. No change. I then cut out the resistor but left the buzzer. No change. I haven't tried a second bulb in parallel with the one bulb and probably won't until I try the Honda 6 volt two prong electronic flasher I have coming. Wiring anything in series with the bulb would just dim the bulb, decrease the load, and increase the resistence so I wouldn't do that.

Old Henry · 02-25-2012, 12:15 AM

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Well, you got me so curious that I had to try it. I hooked both halogen bulbs together to blink together. No change in speed. Still 170 fpm (flashes per minute) whereas the usual blinkers flash 60 -90 fpm. Guess I'll hope the Honda flasher works.

Thanks for all of your ideas. It's amazing the amount of help available on this forum for every problem, large or small. I didn't think I'd get any response to this trivial question.

Thanks again.

Jack E/NJ · 02-25-2012, 12:10 PM

Old Henry>>>The standard 535 thermal flasher flashes too fast for me.>>>

With all the combinations you've tried with no change in the flash rate, Henry, I'm now curious about what's actually inside this 535 can. If I had an alleged thermal flasher that acted like that, I'd hafta pry the can's eartabs back, pull it off and see what's mounted on the board. Aren't you curious too? 8^)

Jack E/NJ

Old Henry · 02-25-2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack E/NJ

Old Henry>>>The standard 535 thermal flasher flashes too fast for me.>>>

With all the combinations you've tried with no change in the flash rate, Henry, I'm now curious about what's actually inside this 535 can. If I had an alleged thermal flasher that acted like that, I'd hafta pry the can's eartabs back, pull it off and see what's mounted on the board. Aren't you curious too? 8^)

Jack E/NJ

Yes. I am now suspicious about the thermal flasher that I have. I going now down to NAPA to get another one to try. Might just be the flasher is bad. That would be an easy fix.

Old Henry · 02-27-2012, 09:10 PM

Jack E/NJ wins the prize.

Once again:

"In problem solving, more often than not, the most obvious answer tends to be the correct one."

So it was with this problem. Bought a new 6 volt thermal flasher just like the one I was already using it worked just like it is supposed to! No need for any of the other "creative" solutions we all came up with nor the 6 volt electronic flasher that's on its way.

Reminds me of the time I spent two hours at night on the side of the road testing everything under the hood to try to figure out why my engine died and wouldn't start again until I finally realized that it was out of gas!

G.M. · 01-25-2020, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Henry

Jack E/NJ wins the prize.

Once again:

"In problem solving, more often than not, the most obvious answer tends to be the correct one."

So it was with this problem. Bought a new 6 volt thermal flasher just like the one I was already using it worked just like it is supposed to! No need for any of the other "creative" solutions we all came up with nor the 6 volt electronic flasher that's on its way.

Reminds me of the time I spent two hours at night on the side of the road testing everything under the hood to try to figure out why my engine died and wouldn't start again until I finally realized that it was out of gas!

There are POS and NEG 535 flashers and not marked what polarity they are. I suspect you had the wrong polarity in originally and just by luck you got the right polarity. I am into this on a 54 corvette right now. G.M.

54vicky · 01-26-2020, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by G.M.

There are POS and NEG 535 flashers and not marked what polarity they are. I suspect you had the wrong polarity in originally and just by luck you got the right polarity. I am into this on a 54 corvette right now. G.M.

he solved it in 2012 first heard of 535 -+ carry on

big job · 01-26-2020, 10:29 AM

Welcome to this day and age. A late pickup we towed in, fuel pump. You have to take the body off to get at it. THREE pumps from Napa, Junk, finally the forth one worked. I can not blame Napa but thats where they get things, cause here, we build low cost housing and not US factory's no more. And we all know the story with 'condensers and points made in some grass shack' across the pond. And these in tank pumps are big bucks: end of rant...

peewee2you · 02-01-2020, 11:36 PM

Old Henry, I haven't been on for quite awhile but found your post, on the 6v relay issue, someone mentioned the Napa #535 which is 3 prong but I saw that it is a 12v, and i remember using a reducer that changes 12v to 6v for a 6v radio in my vw years ago Here is the item i'm talking about on ebay for $9.99
maybe this would work with the napa flasher for you on your 47.

the ebay item # 392475305555

Painless Wiring 40027 Voltage Reducer 12 V to 6 V 4 Amp Maximum Load Each

all this being said i'm not a great electical guy.. just my disclaimer.

go to ebay find advance tab click on it put in item # and hit enter it will come up. here is what it looks like http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL175.../414376461.jpg

you might have resolved the issue already, but maybe future reference, good to see u still on here.

02-24-2012, 07:34 PM	#21
Jack E/NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,173	Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher? The middle one looks like a sub-watt indicator lamp. I think you're right about the halogen drawing as much as or even more than the big bulb. Also, I seem to recall that the old thermal flashers flashed faster, not slower, when trailer lights were added to the circuit. Jack E/NJ

02-24-2012, 08:15 PM	#23
Jack E/NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,173	Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher? Yeah, Bill, good idea. I wonder if maybe the bulb somehow drew more current than the flasher can was designed for. Henry, were you originally trying to flash the halogen bulb? It may be drawing too much current. Jack E/NJ Last edited by Jack E/NJ; 02-24-2012 at 08:20 PM.

02-24-2012, 11:07 PM	#24
FlatheadTed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auckland Posts: 4,705	Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher? I use a 12 flasher on 6 volt but wired into each side a std 12volt tail light bolb to get it to work .it flashes under the dash __________________ http://www.flatheadted.com Flathead Ted brake Floaters ,

02-25-2012, 12:15 AM	#26
Old Henry Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 5,762	Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Well, you got me so curious that I had to try it. I hooked both halogen bulbs together to blink together. No change in speed. Still 170 fpm (flashes per minute) whereas the usual blinkers flash 60 -90 fpm. Guess I'll hope the Honda flasher works. Thanks for all of your ideas. It's amazing the amount of help available on this forum for every problem, large or small. I didn't think I'd get any response to this trivial question. Thanks again. __________________ Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness

02-25-2012, 12:10 PM	#27
Jack E/NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,173	Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher? Old Henry>>>The standard 535 thermal flasher flashes too fast for me.>>> With all the combinations you've tried with no change in the flash rate, Henry, I'm now curious about what's actually inside this 535 can. If I had an alleged thermal flasher that acted like that, I'd hafta pry the can's eartabs back, pull it off and see what's mounted on the board. Aren't you curious too? 8^) Jack E/NJ

02-27-2012, 09:10 PM	#29
Old Henry Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 5,762	Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher? Jack E/NJ wins the prize. Once again: "In problem solving, more often than not, the most obvious answer tends to be the correct one." So it was with this problem. Bought a new 6 volt thermal flasher just like the one I was already using *it worked just like it is supposed to!* No need for any of the other "creative" solutions we all came up with nor the 6 volt electronic flasher that's on its way. Reminds me of the time I spent two hours at night on the side of the road testing everything under the hood to try to figure out why my engine died and wouldn't start again until I finally realized that it was out of gas! __________________ Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness Last edited by Old Henry; 02-27-2012 at 09:42 PM.*

01-26-2020, 10:29 AM	#32
big job Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Dighton, Mass Posts: 1,230	Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher? Welcome to this day and age. A late pickup we towed in, fuel pump. You have to take the body off to get at it. THREE pumps from Napa, Junk, finally the forth one worked. I can not blame Napa but thats where they get things, cause here, we build low cost housing and not US factory's no more. And we all know the story with 'condensers and points made in some grass shack' across the pond. And these in tank pumps are big bucks: end of rant...

02-01-2020, 11:36 PM	#33
peewee2you Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 663	Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher? Old Henry, I haven't been on for quite awhile but found your post, on the 6v relay issue, someone mentioned the Napa #535 which is 3 prong but I saw that it is a 12v, and i remember using a reducer that changes 12v to 6v for a 6v radio in my vw years ago Here is the item i'm talking about on ebay for $9.99 maybe this would work with the napa flasher for you on your 47. the ebay item # 392475305555 Painless Wiring 40027 Voltage Reducer 12 V to 6 V 4 Amp Maximum Load Each all this being said i'm not a great electical guy.. just my disclaimer. go to ebay find advance tab click on it put in item # and hit enter it will come up. here is what it looks like http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL175.../414376461.jpg you might have resolved the issue already, but maybe future reference, good to see u still on here.