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Old 07-23-2019, 10:23 PM   #1
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Default Source For Windshield Garnish Anti Squeek For a 40

Does anybody know a source for the 1940 rub strip that goes around the windshield garnish rail where it contacts the dash? I couldn't find it in Carpenter's or Drake's catalog. This is a wagon and the convertible should be the same.
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Old 07-23-2019, 10:47 PM   #2
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friction tape??
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Old 07-24-2019, 01:10 AM   #3
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you know that beading that goes between the mudguards...oops fenders to you North Americans and the body? Well you can get that stuff in a smaller gauge I think it is upholsterers piping, that will do the trick and that's what I used.

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You will probably have to go to an upholstery shop for it. It's much smaller bead than fender welt and you may have to have it made by the shop.
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Friction tape. Find a commercial electric supply house or look online.
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Old 07-24-2019, 10:26 AM   #6
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Originally on the OEM dashboard there was a long piece of the old style cloth friction tape that served as an anti squeak purpose. It folded over the top edge of dash.
Between the bottom edge of the windshield molding and the top surface of the dash is a piece of welting that fills the gap and provide a nice finished appearance. Years ago I bought a separate piece from LB. Today any upholstery shop should be able to make it.
It utilizes a 3/16 dia. double bead. The bottom edge of windshield fits between the 2 beads.
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Old 07-24-2019, 11:00 AM   #7
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Believe it's called windshield welting. I got mine from Roy Nacewicz several years ago, and I think Lebaron Bonney also carried it. Not sure who has it now, though
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Old 07-24-2019, 11:39 AM   #8
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Friction tape. Find a commercial electric supply house or look online.
It definitely isn't friction tape but rather and upholstery piping. Thanks to all that replied!

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Stuff I scraped off looked like friction tape . It was between the body and the dash and between the dash and the garnish molding
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Originally on the OEM dashboard there was a long piece of the old style cloth friction tape that served an anti squeak purpose. It folded over the top edge of dash.
Between the bottom edge of the windshield molding and the top surface of the dash is a piece of welting to serve fill the gap and provide a nice finished appearance. Years ago I bought a separate piece from LB. Today any upholstery shop should be able to make it.
It utilizes a 3/16 dia. double bead. The bottom edge of windshield fits between the 2 beads.
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On my car, the welting material went all around the windshield garnish piece not just where the dash meets the garnish rail. May not be original however. Are we saying the original piece just went along the top of the dashboard where the garnish piece meets it?
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Yes, then the welting tucked in under the windshield molding as shown in the photos posted above. That welting is not the same size as fender welting.
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On my car, the welting material went all around the windshield garnish piece not just where the dash meets the garnish rail. May not be original however. Are we saying the original piece just went along the top of the dashboard where the garnish piece meets it?
Convertible and wagons it went all the way around.
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Thanks "Kube". I didn't know that little tidbit of welting info.
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Convertible and wagons it went all the way around.
Thanks Kube, that's good to know! What I don't understand about the pictures is the finished piping around the garnish rail looks nothing like the double piping material in the other picture??? Which is correct?

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Thanks Kube, that's good to know! What I don't understand about the pictures is the finished piping around the garnish rail looks nothing like the double piping material in the other picture??? Which is correct?
The double is correct. One of the beads is on the inside of the molding and one bead is on the outside. The inner bead holds the welt in place upon installation.
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The double is correct. One of the beads is on the inside of the molding and one bead is on the outside. The inner bead holds the welt in place upon installation.
Thanks again Kube. That's what I thought. By the way, what kind of adhesive do you use on the windshield rubber seal to hold the glass panels in place before installing the garnish rails?
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Thanks again Kube. That's what I thought. By the way, what kind of adhesive do you use on the windshield rubber seal to hold the glass panels in place before installing the garnish rails?
No adhesive.
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You just put them in dry? Don't they leak?

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You just put them in dry? Don't they leak?

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Well, two things I should probably mention here.
1) Ford did not apply any sealer.
2) None of my restorations ever get wet.

One other thing... IF you find the overwhelming urge to apply some type of sealant, be very careful with what you use. many silicone based sealers will delaminate the glass. There are special sealants designed for automotive glass.
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