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05-06-2017, 08:26 PM | #1 |
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Rear engined 1942 Flathead Armoured Cars
I just ran into a mate at a swap meet and he has one he is restoring wondered if any out there knew of these apparently around 70 were built Ford V8 Rear Engined sounds rather unique and interesting?
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05-06-2017, 09:49 PM | #2 |
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Re: Rear engined 1942 Flathead Armoured Cars
lets see a picture!! i used to have "the standard catalog of military vehicles" or something like that, that was the army book of every thing they made, wwII dated, lost in a fire. never heard of it, some pics please
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05-06-2017, 10:07 PM | #3 |
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My mate lives 3 and a half hours away has a number of military vehicles and recovered the vehicle from a river seems his is one of two left certainly unusual?
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05-06-2017, 11:11 PM | #4 |
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Re: Rear engined 1942 Flathead Armoured Cars
Didn't Ford make the Greyhound? I think it was a 6x6 armored scout car.
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05-06-2017, 11:30 PM | #5 |
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Yes, but it was not adopted. Ford built the M-8 and M-20 using a Hercules 6's There were several Prototypes by Ford. Lets hear from others. newc
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05-08-2017, 02:44 PM | #6 |
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05-08-2017, 02:54 PM | #7 |
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I don't know if these will open...can't get the blasted pictures to paste. I think these are the beast; previously I have seen only the chassis in manuals.
https://ci5.googleusercontent.com/pr...8e660102fc.jpg https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/pr...n-19420413.jpg https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui...4ea2&zw&atsh=1 |
05-08-2017, 02:56 PM | #8 |
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Primitive, brutal looking thing with several variants of armament...that Canadian 29 or 99 was working pretty hard!
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05-08-2017, 03:09 PM | #9 |
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My mate said it's cladd in Half inch plate and yes the engines would have been working hard I hope to get a couple of pictures of it shortly cheers
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05-08-2017, 03:13 PM | #10 |
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And...further confusion and not much info...I am beginning to suspect that different versions had front engine and that the pictures might show those! Noses seem similar, but front engine one has longer nose with a visible opening hood, rear engine shorter and seems to be a welded box with bolted on prow. I don't have nearly enough info to sort this all out!
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05-08-2017, 03:14 PM | #11 |
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05-08-2017, 03:35 PM | #12 |
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Great! I'm thinking the upper one is rear engined, the lower front engined. Need a lot more info! All the four wheel drive commonwealth Fords use Marmon-Herrington modifications on the axles.
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05-08-2017, 06:06 PM | #13 |
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Those were just called the Marmon Herrington Mark II Armored car. They also made some Mark III machines but they were a low output assembly due to difficulties getting the parts to the Africaners' South Africa. There is info on them out there but most were used either in North Africa or in the Pacific theater of operations against the Japanese. That's how they ended up in that part of the world anyway.
I think the Mark III was the one with the heavier armor. Some even were fit with 28 & 37 MM guns. The Israelis ended up with some of these and used them for their struggle for independence. They called them the terrible tigers. Somewhere around 5000 of all the marks were made. I think the Mark IV was the one that used like a backward CMP chassis since Marmon Herrington couldn't keep up with production. Last edited by rotorwrench; 05-08-2017 at 06:15 PM. |
05-08-2017, 06:21 PM | #14 |
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How about the Canadian LYNX. I saw a post on the Brit site HMVP about an Australian restoring one. 4X4 V8 rear eng. I believe. Newc
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05-08-2017, 06:33 PM | #15 |
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Those were based on the Dingo scout cars.
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05-08-2017, 07:01 PM | #16 |
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The Lynx really attracts me...it is a Sports armored car!
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05-09-2017, 03:30 AM | #17 |
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I have a couple of photos of this Ford powerd 1942 Armoured Car if one of you can pm me with your email address I will forward the photos then if you wish to post them on the barn that's fine there were 70 made in this configuration 2 remain cheers
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05-09-2017, 04:45 AM | #18 |
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Quite a few of those came to New Zealand and some were converted to forest fire fighting appliances post war.Alot of the bodywork was removed and a pump was fitted driven by another V8 motor.Apparently they were very effective in shifting a lot of water.Cheers.
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05-09-2017, 02:16 PM | #19 |
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Geoff correct that's how this one most likely survived as a forestry fire engine until it was buried in a river stop bank and recovered after a big flood interestingly it was in very good condition after a very long time buried
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05-09-2017, 02:28 PM | #20 |
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An older friend of mine that recently died, dug a 1908 Brush runabout out of a Kansas dust blow drift from the 30s and the wood frame & axles were almost perfectly preserved. It always depends on whether the soil is acidic or alkaline and how deep the ground water is if any. Those old WWII armored vehicles were made of some heavy duty metals. It would take a long time to rust one through if in the dry conditions.
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