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Old 01-18-2020, 03:58 PM   #1
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I am fabricating a part for a 1933 1934 Ford. Fits all body styles. Very tough to find in good condition. I am half way there. Would anyone like to guess what it is going to be. Thought everyone would like to see how a piece of round stock transforms into a part. I will do a whole series of photos of how it is made when I complete the part.
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Old 01-18-2020, 04:08 PM   #2
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engine stabilizer rod bolt
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Old 01-18-2020, 04:20 PM   #3
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engine stabilizer rod bolt
Not so certain you are correct. If that were the part, surely Bill would have cut the threads prior to removing the piece from the lathe.
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Old 01-18-2020, 04:22 PM   #4
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This would be my guess...

I just got 500 of them back from the plater last week. Engine steady rod bolts. These were done on a CNC, and the squares broached in.




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Old 01-18-2020, 04:23 PM   #5
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A stanchion pin? ( I really don't know. Just made that up.)
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Old 01-18-2020, 04:37 PM   #6
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Michael,
Great to see you made them. I won't finish mine. I will just buy a pair from you for my 34 Ford. Everything you sell is fantastic.
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Old 01-18-2020, 04:40 PM   #7
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Bill I’d love to see you finish yours, unlike me who pays a local CNC shop to make stuff I thoroughly enjoy your posts and the passion you put into making things and anything you make is first class and we all enjoy seeing how you make these items by hand on your own lathe. Your a true craftsman and your products show your passion. I’m curious how you would put the square drive into them. I watched them broach these and that was some sketchy business.
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Old 01-18-2020, 04:46 PM   #8
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Grease cup for the throw out bearing?
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:02 PM   #9
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It certainly could be repurposed for one of those.
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:13 PM   #10
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Not so certain you are correct. If that were the part, surely Bill would have cut the threads prior to removing the piece from the lathe.

Hopefully he was gonna "roll" the threads rather than cut them. DD
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Old 01-18-2020, 06:38 PM   #11
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Hopefully he was gonna "roll" the threads rather than cut them. DD
Then he would have put a small "dimple" in the end so he could bring in a live center for support.

I suppose there's more than one way to make these. Me? I'd have made the threaded part a little longer than required and cut the threads while the stock was still in the lathe. Then, after the threads were cut, Id simply cut off the "extra" material on the end to spec.
Pull out the stock, turn it around and cut the head to spec. Pretty easy.

Milling that square indent in the head would have been only slightly more difficult. I'd have done that prior to any lathe work.
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When did those bolts go from having a square hole in the end to being a hex head? I have NOS ones that have hex heads and the tapered lock washers.
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I'd like to see someone mill a square dead end hole.
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I'd like to see someone mill a square dead end hole.

How's about turning a cube (in a cube) on a lathe? Link below! DD


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I'd like to see someone mill a square dead end hole.
I'd done it numerous times. There is of course a very small radius in each corner.
There's also a mill head that will actually cut square corners. I'd only used that a couple of times. Never did quite understand the engineering behind that but man, it was cool !
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Old 01-18-2020, 09:33 PM   #16
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The 1933 1934 Ford engine steady rod bolt uses a nut and lock washer on the under side to secure it unlike the later ones in which the bolt threads directly into the engine steady rod itself. So because it has a nut there is no need to roll the threads. Standard threads will work just fine. See my photos of a rusty but original pair of bolts. Before I remove my part from a lathe, if there is to be more work done on it I mark it as to the depth and jaw number so it can be put right back into the lathe at the same position. My lathe has a run out of less than a thousands so easy to put back just right. Machinist all do things differently. The order of operation may vary but as long as the end result is right that is all that matters. I use a spigot to hold my work and cut it off at the end. It is always my method of holding the work during all the operations. I may mill the square hole in the head of the bolt but as already stated there may be a slight radius in the corners. There is another way and that is a rotary broach but I don't have one. I used one at the shop I worked years ago. I do have a fixture that this will thread into to hold it while it is being milled. Please look at my last two photos of the Roadster windshield stud I made on the lathe. I was able to obtain perfection by my order of operation and please look the threads as they look and operate perfectly.
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The 1933 1934 Ford engine steady rod bolt uses a nut and lock washer on the under side to secure it unlike the later ones in which the bolt threads directly into the engine steady rod itself. So because it has a nut there is no need to roll the threads. Standard threads will work just fine. See my photos of a rusty but original pair of bolts. Before I remove my part from a lathe, if there is to be more work done on it I mark it as to the depth and jaw number so it can be put right back into the lathe at the same position. My lathe has a run out of less than a thousands so easy to put back just right. Machinist all do things differently. The order of operation may vary but as long as the end result is right that is all that matters. I use a spigot to hold my work and cut it off at the end. It is always my method of holding the work during all the operations. I may mill the square hole in the head of the bolt but as already stated there may be a slight radius in the corners. There is another way and that is a rotary broach but I don't have one. I used one at the shop I worked years ago. I do have a fixture that this will thread into to hold it while it is being milled. Please look at my last two photos of the Roadster windshield stud I made on the lathe. I was able to obtain perfection by my order of operation and please look the threads as they look and operate perfectly.
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A rotary broach... that's it. Thanks for jogging my old memory. Those things are so cool, almost magic
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Old 01-19-2020, 11:16 AM   #18
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while i can certainly admire the precision work that bill does, and the great efforts by many to do exact restorations, i do really like the allen head screw from fastinal for this application. its so much easier, and its under the floor where it cant be seen
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Torx are the big thing now days. Just be glad it wasn't GM or it might have been a clutch head.
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Torx are the big thing now days. Just be glad it wasn't GM or it might have been a clutch head.

The very first TORX I ever encountered was on a '79 Corvette tail light lens. I still have the Torx driver that I went out and bought from Snap-On. Haven't seen a clutch head on a GM since the '50s. DD
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