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Old 12-07-2012, 10:12 PM   #101
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:14 AM   #102
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:52 AM   #103
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Flop, back in post 90 you asked me what bead roller I got, I missed that question, sorry. It is a Harbor Freight. I am well aware of their shortcomings, but it was in a local Classified Guide at a price I could not pass up. I know I would need to rework it and I have already re-built it with a 3/8 backing plate, and reworked the dies, and built top arch to stiffen it.(I used to be a machinist and am lucky enough to own Mills, lathe etc.) You mentioned making a gate for it and you are spot on there. I made two. One just clamps on to the frame and gives me a guide, the other is a modification of one of my two rolling work tables in the shop. I made a fixture to mount the Bead Roller to the work table at table top height and made a fence, sort of like a table saw to guide longer pieces through. It works well, but I really need a source of scrap sheet metal to build technique. Thanks again for all you do here.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:10 AM   #104
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Awesome Thread!!!
There are build threads like this on HAMB all the time. Nice to see one here on Ford Barn. Great work. TM
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:41 PM   #105
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qgolden thats what i have as well . after stiffening it and putting a steering wheel on it instead of a crank its ready for work!! no problem Q i enjoy it thats why i post here.


thanks tony!


been super busy at the shop havent had time for my own stuff .


but i finally got the door in its hole !!



someone on the hamb wanted a picture of the back of the panel as well so i figured i might as well post it here

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Old 12-21-2012, 10:20 PM   #106
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well heres a peek into my friday nights....

roll em



stand back and look



put the break where it meets the b pillar then head home because its 10 :00



merry christmas folks!
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:05 PM   #107
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Fantastic work. Mad skills Sir.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:07 AM   #108
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I like the steering wheel idea, lets you use the roller alone. I have been scheming up a motorized version with a foot switch, but I think I will infringe on your patent instead. ;-) Much simpler.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:14 AM   #109
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I like the steering wheel idea, lets you use the roller alone. I have been scheming up a motorized version with a foot switch, but I think I will infringe on your patent instead. ;-) Much simpler.

Let me offer up something regarding this. I visited a race car shop about ten years ago and saw their beadroller with a steering wheel and said I am going to do that. He said "be sure and use a big one." I went home and found a used 28/29 Model-A steering wheel so I drilled out the hub flange rivets and adapted it. It was a great improvement and I knew why he said that. I used it that way for a couple of years until I was at the Chickasha, OK swap meet in the Fall of '04 when some guy had a large wheel off of an oilfield pipe valve that is about 30" in diameter. I bought it for like $5.00 on a whim. After removing the Model-A steering wheel and installing this valve wheel, it made yet another HUGE difference in the quality of the panel we could produce. Might I suggest that if you are going to install a wheel on yours, that you find someone who has a ring roller and fabricate a wheel instead of using a steering wheel. Matter of fact, a 10' long piece of EMT conduit rolled into a circle will make somewhere around a 38" diameter ring. 3 or 4 pieces of 1" wide flatbar will make the spokes and you would have a very nice wheel that will make your roller MUCH more controllable without a fence.

With THAT said, after you have used a motorized roller some, a manually operated one really sucks to use IMO. If I didn't already have a Pullmax, I would have fabricated a motor mount on my unit. The quickest way to motorize one is to use a Harbor Freight 12v winch motor and remove the spool and attach a small chain sprocket from a salvage store. Then bolt/weld/attach a larger sprocket to the roller shaft and connect to a battery. If someone was creative, they could probably scrounge up a old bicycle and cannibalize the chain and sprockets off of that. With a motorized roller, both hands and both eyes can stayed focused on the workpiece, and the speed can be controlled by the same brain that is guiding the workpiece.


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Brent, an old exercise treadmill would have a variable speed motor, but if you want a reversible variable speed motor, you'll have to find an old 1/2" electric drill.
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:02 AM   #111
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Brent, an old exercise treadmill would have a variable speed motor, but if you want a reversible variable speed motor, you'll have to find an old 1/2" electric drill.

Yep drill motors have been used too... This Youtube vid covers it pretty nicely;
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...along with winch motors;

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The wheel is simple ,reliable and takes minor force to turn . All in all I think I have 10 minutes max into that bead and making the break at the bottom .

No need to over complicate things in my opinion for something that you use for what maybe an hour a week?
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The wheel is simple ,reliable and takes minor force to turn . All in all I think I have 10 minutes max into that bead and making the break at the bottom .

No need to over complicate things in my opinion for something that you use for what maybe an hour a week?

Oh, you say that now, ....but someday you will likely find yourself using some sort of forming machine at least 25%-35% of your time doing your craft, --maybe more!! Having a machine that is efficient will be a value to you and your customer. I think it would be a blast sometime if you could come down and hang out some. I used to host some workshops at my shop where a bunch of us Fordbarners from all over gathered for a weekend just hangin' out sharing ideas and exchanging fellowship. RockHillWill called the other day and suggested we should do it again. Maybe we should. It would be cool if you could come hang out with us too!
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:30 PM   #114
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I have a line on a pullmax in the area . Im sure it will help and gonna be awesome to be able to make full skins and complex body lines . But for things like making the simple beads for someone who isnt going to use it like you or I would .... seems useless for a motor to be put on .
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I have a line on a pullmax in the area . Im sure it will help and gonna be awesome to be able to make full skins and complex body lines . But for things like making the simple beads for someone who isnt going to use it like you or I would .... seems useless for a motor to be put on .

You will love your PMax!! Mine is a P-5 and I think Will's is a P-7. Mine reportedly came out of the Whirlpool prototype labs and came with quite a bit of tooling. I have probably spent another $5+k on tooling, and we have made quite a few other pieces of tooling by having them water-jetted out. Will showed me how to draw up the profiles we need using a CAD program and then we send the file off to have the profile cut in steel. Terry Stolarski also has a nice DVD (--or two) that shows how to hand fabricate dies with just a lathe, a welder, and a few shop tools.



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Old 12-22-2012, 03:13 PM   #116
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I used to host some workshops at my shop where a bunch of us Fordbarners from all over gathered for a weekend just hangin' out sharing ideas and exchanging fellowship. RockHillWill called the other day and suggested we should do it again. Maybe we should. It would be cool if you could come hang out with us too!
another of those weekends would be very welcome, I'm certain.
last time you had one I was sick as a dog but came up from FL in spite of my condition.
Alice & I would be there for sure. she enjoys working on cars and wants to learn more.
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Old 12-22-2012, 04:23 PM   #117
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did some exploratory surgery and im pretty excited!! the B pillar is almost intact !!



this side of the car is prettty damn nice!!
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:19 AM   #118
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Wow, just wanted to say you have awesome skills with metalwork, very nice looking coupe as well.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:33 AM   #119
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love watching this thread, your work is very impressive
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:38 PM   #120
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thank you squirrel

appreciate it msmaron!


its been a while sooooo lets get this side started

another rusty corner but not to bad!



this quarter it pretty damn nice compared to the drivers side
trimmed the wheel well out of the way so i could get some more access



rolled this out to get me started!

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