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Old 03-09-2019, 10:19 PM   #1
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Default Hurd key blanks

I have some Hurd key blanks I have had for over 20 years. Cannot remember where I got 'em Any way to tell if they're OEM or a repos? Have they even been repopped?


What are they worth. Ebay shows them at $25.00 +-, saying NOS.


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Old 03-09-2019, 10:33 PM   #2
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Originals would be brass nickle plated, not steel chrome plated.
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Thanks my man. Hope you are on the fast mend track after your surgery. One of these days I hope to get the flash drive back to you so you can download the book on it for me. I'll be glad to pay you for a flash drive if you will download the book and the "Pictures for or used in the book" instead of my misc pictures you sent me on the flash drive I have. Lawson
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I have about 8 ORIGINAL Hurd key blanks. What do they reasonably go for. eBay asking. $25.00. That seems a little much. I guess it depends somewhat on the year model. Any input appreciated.
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Post a pic of what you have.I bought 2 NOS for $10 ea on EBAY a few weeks ago.Repops when they came out were $5 ea.Carpenter makes those.
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Just a few thoughts that may help.
In my experience many folks really don't care if the locks work or not.
Their cars are usually not out of their sight for very long so security is not a major concern.
Ignition is a no brainer however, but door, trunk then glove box in that order of importance. If the car has a tire lock then that jumps up in importance for obvious reasons.
In a nutshell ….if a guy wants working locks the key itself doesn't matter.
Some folks ask for the "correct key" ( which I usually don't have) but they don't want to pay much for it.
If I see original blanks for sale I only buy them if they are cheap because I know I can't get much for them. I use them for new or near new locks I have, that are lacking a key. They add to the value of the lock.
I'm not trying to pee on anyone's parade here...…..
just my thoughts from my experience here on The Barn
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Old 03-15-2019, 10:25 AM   #7
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When you decide on a value I'd take 1 if you're looking to sell them.


I only have 1 original, and I guard it with my life right now!
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Are they round, football shaped or cloverleaf?
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Are they round, football shaped or cloverleaf?

I have forgotten how to post pictures here or I would do so.
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Lawson, Click on "edit",then click on "go advanced".bring the page up and click on "manage attachments".On the upper left a small window shows up and click on browse.Its there you can put in your pics one at a time by clicking browse each time.Then click "upload" when they are all loaded click "close".Then click "save"Your pics are now on your post.
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And be sure they are within the size limits.
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Lawson, Click on "edit",then click on "go advanced".bring the page up and click on "manage attachments".On the upper left a small window shows up and click on browse.Its there you can put in your pics one at a time by clicking browse each time.Then click "upload" when they are all loaded click "close".Then click "save"Your pics are now on your post.



I get to the end close and save no pix
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I get to the end close and save no pix
Did you wait for them to upload? What is the image size? I can post them for you if would like, email them to me.
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Here are profiles of the most common Ford Hurd keys. Which ones do you have. The key on the left is Hurd but not Ford. The shaft is reverse that of the Fords.
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Here are profiles of the most common Ford Hurd keys. Which ones do you have. The key on the left is Hurd but not Ford. The shaft is reverse that of the Fords.

You mean the key on the right....
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Here are profiles of the most common Ford Hurd keys. Which ones do you have. The key on the left is Hurd but not Ford. The shaft is reverse that of the Fords.

Thanks Don. I'll check tomorrow and list what I have.
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Pete, You are correct. I hope they didn't mix up any of my engine wires during my surgery.

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Pete, You are correct. I hope they didn't mix up any of my engine wires during my surgery.

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Let's hope they kept you 'positive ground'....
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Don, My Hurd catalog #51 shows the 9026 replaces the 9020. Altho they seem to have a little different profile in your illustration. My catalog doesn't show a 9020 illustration. Do you have any insight on this?


Glad you 're back and on the mend. I had that surgery in 2005. It takes awhile to build up a head of steam again.
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Gary, The 9026 profile came out for Ford ign/door keys in 1939. It continued in use thru 1948. Since the grooving profile/shape is the same for 9020 and 9026, the 9026 blank replaced the 9020 sometime after 1939. The 9020 shape was used by Hurd/Ford from 1932 thru 1938 for ign/door keys. As a side note.......the 9018 shape was used for the trunk and accessories from 1932 thru 1938. The 9025 blank replaced it for the 1939 thru 1948 model years.

Since the grooving profiles are the same for 9020, 9018, 9025 and 9026, the blanks were often used indiscriminately in later years 1950's, 60's, etc
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