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Old 06-22-2016, 11:31 AM   #1
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Default All of the @#$%ing Little Leaks!

I am making steady progress on the rebuild of my 51 F1. One thing is driving me crazy-all of the tiny little fluid leaks!

The rebuilt steering box drips about a drop every 3-4 days.
The rebuilt 3 speed sideloader has a very small leak at the back where the countershaft and the reverse gear shaft penetrate the housing-about a heavy drop for each hour of run time.
There is a small leak at the oil pan to block-about a drop a day.

Everything is rebuilt with new gaskets. I used a thin coat of RTV (for gear oil) at the rear end, transmission, and steering box gaskets. I have torqued every bolt to spec.

So-are these little leaks common? What do you all do?

I want to take things back apart and reseal and/or replace the gaskets, but I wonder if that is a fool's errand?

Thoughts and opinions and experiences?

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Old 06-22-2016, 11:37 AM   #2
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Good Grief! You're talking about a drop or two a day!!!! I doubt if Henry ever made a car that didn't leak more than that. If he did I never had one. Where talking flat heads.
My F-150 doesn't leak a drop but my shoeboxs both have cardboard under them at both ends.
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:54 AM   #3
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All of my early Ford vehicles drip a little oil here and there. Nothing severe just typical drops. I too place cardboard under them to protect the garage floor.
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Old 06-22-2016, 12:14 PM   #4
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You know it's a Ford if you have drip pans or cardboard on the garage floor!
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Old 06-22-2016, 12:15 PM   #5
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Old Fords remind me of when I used to fly in Chinook helicopters in the Army. They leaked hydraulic fluid in the cargo hold, when I asked the crew about it they said don't worry, when it stops leaking then you have a problem.
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Old 06-22-2016, 12:26 PM   #6
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Old 06-22-2016, 12:33 PM   #7
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I would just call it a "Rust Prevention System" and get on with my life.
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I would just call it a "Rust Prevention System" and get on with my life.
Saves your chassis and floor pans
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Old 06-22-2016, 01:29 PM   #9
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So-are these little leaks common? What do you all do?
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Hi Everyone, John, in a word, Yes they are common.

I don't expect to be able to drive away from a dry parking spot.

It doesn't help, but in the days these cars were new, nobody had a concrete parking place, all garages had dirt floors.

Also in generations prior to the Flathead, vehicles leaked even worse!

When the new clothes washer showed up I was happy, but even happier to salvage the box!
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Old 06-22-2016, 01:32 PM   #10
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Old Fords mark their spot. Just like the owners leak a little with age.
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Old 06-22-2016, 01:57 PM   #11
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If you have an old Ford and it ain't leakin..............you are outta oil.
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:36 PM   #12
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Thanks fellas for the voices of experience!

I kinda thought that the leaks were normal but wanted to be sure before I decided what to do with them. Which is-leave them be.

Got lots of cardboard, so I'm all set!
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Old 06-22-2016, 06:03 PM   #13
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Many new Ford (and other brands) dealers in the 50's Gave buyers a drip pan with their name embossed in it to keep your garage floor clean. You can still buy them without the dealer's name at any parts store.
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Now I know why the old driveways were two concrete strips with dead grass in the center.
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Yup sounds all normal to me.. "If it aint leakin' its got no oil in it!"
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QUOTE=Steves46;1312719]Now I know why the old driveways were two concrete strips with dead grass in the center.[/QUOTE] I never thought about it that way before, but you might just have a good point there! Bill
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Old 06-23-2016, 03:24 AM   #17
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Default Re: All of the @#$%ing Little Leaks!

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I am making steady progress on the rebuild of my 51 F1. One thing is driving me crazy-all of the tiny little fluid leaks!

The rebuilt steering box drips about a drop every 3-4 days.


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There should not be anything leaking out of the top of the box unless it's over filled.
Believe that the F1 box dimensions are the same as 51' Merc.
Shaft dia. 1-1/4", box C'bore- 1-11/16".
If that's the case then you can remove the pitman arm and install an
(SKF# 12336 oil seal)
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Old 06-23-2016, 09:23 AM   #18
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There should not be anything leaking out of the top of the box unless it's over filled.
Believe that the F1 box dimensions are the same as 51' Merc.
Shaft dia. 1-1/4", box C'bore- 1-11/16".
If that's the case then you can remove the pitman arm and install an
(SKF# 12336 oil seal)
It's not leaking at the pitman arm shaft, and it is not overfilled. I'm running 90 wt gear oil, and I think it seeps at various spots-the gasketed covers and the adjusting bolt cap. It's all sealed with the RTV and torqued to spec. After all that I've read I do expect it to seep a little unless I switch over to the Cornhead Grease.
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The John Deere "cornhead grease" otherwise called John Deere Multi Lube has provided me with excellent no leak results.
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I had that drip out the steering gear, as Seth has stated the cornhead grease replacing the 90W does the job.
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